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Old 05-07-2001, 07:07 AM   #1
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Exclamation Rubbing sounds . . . Please help

My MY98 with no suspension mods seems to hate having anyone ride in the back seat. If and when someone is in the back i get a horrible noise that come from the back on any knd of hard turn (and we're not talking too hard of turns here) I am assuming that is has something to do with the suspension. My rear spring sits over the tire by about 3/4" is this normal or should the spring it clear the sidewall?. Any sugestions or input???

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Old 05-07-2001, 09:23 AM   #2
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i too have a 98 rs and i also experience this problem.....what is it?
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Old 05-07-2001, 10:35 AM   #3
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What size tire are you running? It will rub with 225 tires.
If you are still stock, you probably didn't have this problem when car was new, sound like you struts/springs are wearing due to normal use.

If you look up in the inner fender, about 2" above the fender lip you will see the rub area.

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Old 05-07-2001, 04:39 PM   #4
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still running the 205s and havnt changed wheel size etc. the sping is not 2" above the tire more like a fingers width and a half. Most likely do to normal wear? Will I run into the same problem with any aftermarket suspension upgrades?


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Old 05-07-2001, 04:41 PM   #5
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Um, if you bought the car new and therefore are sure the suspension is stock then with that sort of rear fender gap your stock springs must be sacked out.

If you bought it used spring fatigue is still possible, but aftermarket suspension of some kind is more likely.

You do have the gold 98 RS wheels? What model of tire?
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Old 05-07-2001, 05:00 PM   #6
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i bought it used and the guy who had it replaced the gold rims but he kept them the same size. I know he didn't do any suspension work cus I have all the service records. The tires are the Dunlop Sport 5000 205/55 16s

should th espring sit over the tire like it does??

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Old 05-07-2001, 05:13 PM   #7
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yes. what brand and model of rims are on the car? improper offset on a stock suspension can easily generate fender rub in the back. once you stiffen things up, the car is more tolerant but...
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Old 05-07-2001, 09:28 PM   #8
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You should have mentioned that the rims were replaced in your original post, that was the most important detail!

I agree you rearend sounds like it's sitting too low. What color are the springs, the factory ones are black.

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Old 05-08-2001, 01:05 PM   #9
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Yup they're black stock springs. The wheels are the same diameter and width. so is it just spring wear ???


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Old 05-08-2001, 01:40 PM   #10
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But what is the wheel's offset? If it's a 16x7 that is great, but if the offset is too low then it's going to rub on the fender-- there's a whole lot of travel in the stock suspension, lots of body roll.
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Yea sounds like your rims...
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Old 05-08-2001, 03:09 PM   #12
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rims and...
dunlops are known to make their tires just a weee bit wider than most in the same tire size...

i bet you have some rub a dub issues...

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Old 05-08-2001, 03:57 PM   #13
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if you look at the very edge of the fender you'll notice that you either have destroyed the rubber lining, or have shaved off the rubber. If the rims are stock then it's not them, The only thing is that the tires have a pearshaped sidewall. But still, subaru should have designed it not to rub. I have the gold 16's with falken ziex on them, and the drivers rear rubs, but thats because of spring fatigue.


re-adjust your camber, and get an alignment, that should solve it.

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Old 05-08-2001, 05:11 PM   #14
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the stock specs are that the tires are 205/55 R16 All-Seasons im still running the exact same thing on 16x6.5 i think they may be 7s but im 99% sure its 6.5. I looked at it again today and the strut sits an inch over the wheel. if if is to much body role etc will a sway bar stifen the suspension enough??

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Old 05-08-2001, 10:05 PM   #15
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If you want to test if you are rubbing visually. try loading up your car with weight, put people in the back seats and in the trunk and see how close you get to your fenders. If ti rubs then there is your answer. I used to do liquor store runs in my old BMW M3 and even though my wheels disappeared into the fener wells I never rubbed. Your wheels is probably the wrong offset.
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Old 05-08-2001, 11:53 PM   #16
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What is the offset of the rims!

If the offset is wrong it will still rub even with a stiffer swaybar.
If the offset is wrong, (and you want to keep the rim), you can have a shop that specialize in wheel repair machine the rim to the correct offset, ~$200/set.

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Old 05-09-2001, 12:24 AM   #17
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I Am so confuesed! do you have stock 98RS rims? if you do then the are 16x7, if your running aftermarket, then it's a whole different ballgame, you'll need to tell us the maker and the offset.
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Old 05-09-2001, 06:04 PM   #18
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NO i dont have the gold rims i have aftermarket wheels. team loco 150s that are 16x7. Stupid question but how does one determine the offset??? and again the tires are dunlop sp5000 205/55 16. stock springs still in. I have no idea what this could be other that the wheel rubbing the strut or wheel well (but there are visible marks inide the wheel well) i dunno i shell out and just get it squared away so let me ask this: when i do dind that the spring is shot what is IYO the best aftermarket spring set without too much drop (1" max).

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Old 05-09-2001, 06:22 PM   #19
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On the Team Loco's the offset should be embossed on the back side of the wheel somewhere. Take one wheel off and look for the 'ET47'. That's what mine has for an offset of +47. Yes, I did get rubbing with mine, so I'm not surprised yours rub too. Rolling the inner rear fender did the trick for me. I had a body shop do it, but some people have done it successfully themselves. A search in this forum should provide adequate information on this subject if you're intersted.
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