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Old 03-17-2003, 09:15 PM   #1
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Default Best Driving/Sport Lights for night Rallies.

I just did the ITN Road Rally and about the only thing I could have used other than a bigger bladder were better lights.

I currently have PIAA extream white bulbs in both the headlights and the driving/fog lights. I was wonder about getting another set of driving/spot lights to get a little more distance/range at night. I am looking at doing that mod that lets you run the fogs with the highbeams, but I want more.

Any suggestions. I was looking at the KC's, Hella and PIAA's but it is hard to figure out which would give the best range.

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Old 03-18-2003, 02:46 AM   #2
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Get some Hella HID lights, The large Red round ones. We had them on our race buggy, and they turn night into day. Very nice. My first experince with theses lights was out in glamis. I was out in my toyota 4x4, with 4 KC 100w lights on a roll bar, and another two on the front bumper. We stoped at the top of a dune for a couple of mins. When the night truned to day, all of a sudden my truck was putting out a shadow, robby gorden in his play truck was coming up on us very very fast, he had about 10 of thoese hella HID lights on his truck, and that thing lit up everything, for what seemed like miles. They are a little pricy, but well worth it. last time i checked they were like 600 a piece. if that is too much, get some nice hella 2000s. they are nice too.
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Old 03-18-2003, 10:47 AM   #3
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yea i'm looking for something that will fit just on the inside of the stock fogs.....I just put Hella 85W yellowstar bulbs in the stock fogs, and I could use some more driving light as well...
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Old 03-18-2003, 02:36 PM   #4
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yea i'm looking for something that will fit just on the inside of the stock fogs.....I just put Hella 85W yellowstar bulbs in the stock fogs, and I could use some more driving light as well...
it's hard to find something that's bigger than the hella 500 or the piaa 80s in the stock location. i measured around and you'll have to do a hack job if you want to try to fit something like the hella rallye line, which would be the next best thing.
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Old 03-19-2003, 10:44 AM   #5
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What's your budget?
Are you willing to run a light bar?

Hella 500's are great!
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Old 03-19-2003, 12:59 PM   #6
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What's your budget?
Are you willing to run a light bar?

Hella 500's are great!
I don't think I would want to spend more than $200 on a pair of lights, as for the light bar, I would have to say no. I was thinking of installing them in the grill opening below the bumper, between the two driving lights on my 03' WRX.

As for the budget, if they are worth it I will spend the money regardless.

thanks for all the input so far.

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Old 03-19-2003, 06:36 PM   #7
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I used to run Cibie Oscar+ lights on my long departed rally car. They were very nice lights. Much better than the Hella 550's. Scooby Sports sells a kit to put Oscar+ lights in the front bumper where the stock fogs are. I don't have a link, but do a Google search & you're sure to find them.

Oh I forgot to say, buy the driving lights as fogs are about useless.
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Old 03-20-2003, 05:39 PM   #8
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what do people think about the CATZ SR's or the PIAA Pro 80 XT's.

The PIAAs look like the would fit in the stock fog light opening and the Catz look like the might fit in the grill opening.

any comments would be appreciated.

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Old 03-20-2003, 06:53 PM   #9
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I installed PIAA 60XT driving lights in the lower grille of my WRX MY2002 and I couldn't be happier. Installation was not simple as it is challenging to find a solid surface. It can be done.

I do high speed driving in northern Maine at night and these driving lights really reach out. They are cheaper than HID's, fit in the lower grille like a glove, and still light the world.

I might also consider putting PIAA lamps in the stock fog light position as the stock fog lights are of limited usefullness. PIAA 80-series lights are mind bogglingly bright driving lights that will fit in that location with an adapter. I would aim PIAA 80-Fog lamps so there is little or no center overlap. This would provide VERY bright lighting to the side (max 190 degrees) for good visibility while cornering.

Hmmm, now I've wet my appetite...
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Old 03-20-2003, 06:59 PM   #10
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I used to run Cibie Oscar+ lights on my long departed rally car. They were very nice lights. Much better than the Hella 550's. Scooby Sports sells a kit to put Oscar+ lights in the front bumper where the stock fogs are. I don't have a link, but do a Google search & you're sure to find them.
actually, you can get them here:
http://secure.cartsvr.net/catalogs/c...ie&catid=13029

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Old 03-20-2003, 07:48 PM   #11
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actually, you can get them here:
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Jamie www.subiegalracing.com

but how do you rate them? would you use these??
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Old 03-20-2003, 08:59 PM   #12
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I run Cibie oscar's... much brighter than any comparable sized light. sure they are'nt as bright as the hella 4000 HID's, but they are plenty of light for driving 80mph down ultra twisty roads, or in your case, rallies


scooby sport USA: http://www.rallyperformance.com/lights.shtml
That site is $60 cheaper than the one Jamie posted
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Old 03-21-2003, 09:45 AM   #13
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A local has the PIAA Pro 80 XT's in his stock fog location. Work great for him. I think for the price... the 500's are a better deal and although they are about a 3rd of the price, they aren't a 1/3rd of the light.

If you have budgeted $200 or so, then go with the 130 watt Cibie's or the 120 watt PIAA Pro 80 XT's.. myself, when the time comes... I can't justify that kind of cash for DL's since I won't use them everyday on the street (too bright) and they are quite nice for the money.

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Old 03-21-2003, 03:33 PM   #14
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I installed PIAA 60XT driving lights in the lower grille of my WRX MY2002 and I couldn't be happier. Installation was not simple as it is challenging to find a solid surface. It can be done.
I was wonder if you had install pictures or a discription of the way you installed this. I might consider doing this. I already have PIAA Exreme White bulbs in my factory fogs, they give ok near field lighting, but I wanted to extend my range with some driving lights. Any info would be great as to how you mounted these.

As for everyone's comments, thanks it is very helpfull. I looked into the Cibies, but at $300+ its a little much for me right now.

thanks again everyone.

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Old 03-26-2003, 11:01 PM   #15
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Alas I do not yet own a digital camera so I'm unable to post any pictures of my installation. But some time in the near future I may be able to borrow one and if so, I'll definitely post some. Just keep your eyes open.
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Old 03-27-2003, 02:13 AM   #16
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Alas I do not yet own a digital camera so I'm unable to post any pictures of my installation. But some time in the near future I may be able to borrow one and if so, I'll definitely post some. Just keep your eyes open.
very cool, when ever you can. I am subscribed to this thread, so if you stick it in here I will be alerted to it by email.

thanks.

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Old 06-18-2003, 03:19 PM   #17
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any new opinions in this area?

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Old 06-20-2003, 05:49 PM   #18
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I just instaled some hella FF 1000 lights in the stock fog location. The light output is awsome. I would recomend them to anyone.
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Old 06-20-2003, 08:44 PM   #19
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I just instaled some hella FF 1000 lights in the stock fog location. The light output is awsome. I would recomend them to anyone.
Jason
do you have an pics? How well do they intergrate into the stock openings? Did you have to use an adapter to get them in there?

any info would be great, thanks

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it is kind of a tight fit, but no cutting of the car was needed. I made my own kartboy style brackets out of steel. It took me a couple of hours. If someone want's to host the pics let me know and I will email them to you. I purchased them from rallylights.com. They provided me with top notch service and I will be ordering more fromn them in near future.
If you have any more questions feel free to ask.
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Old 06-20-2003, 11:09 PM   #21
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Here are jjc1900's Fog Light Install. Please direct question to jjc1900.



thanks for sending the pics to be posted.
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Old 06-21-2003, 05:36 AM   #22
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here are samples of the light out put. Again, these are jjc1900's, and I am just hosting the pics for him.



thanks for the pix,
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these will need some explainin', but I deleted the email that came with them
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pic #1 is just the driving lights

pic#2 is low beams with piaa extream white bulbs

pic#3 is just the high beams with piaa extream white bulbs

pic #4 is driving lights and high beams.

These pics don't really do the lights justice. It is ammazing the differance when you are driving down a low light country road. It makes me realize how poor the stock lights actualy are.
Any other questions feel free to ask.

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