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Old 03-18-2003, 09:22 PM   #1
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Default utec stage 4 map and stage 4 tmi map the same?

i went to the turboxs site to download the stage 4 base map with no tmi but i noticed the file name was stage4tmi, so my question is are the two maps the same? i don't want to use the wrong map on accident and make something go boom
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Old 03-18-2003, 09:43 PM   #2
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yeah it appears the maps r the same.. i downloaded and printed em both,,,, the same
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Old 03-18-2003, 09:48 PM   #3
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hey man....thanx i really appreciated. sorry to have made you go through the trouble of printing them and comparing them. must have been an eye sore
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Old 03-18-2003, 10:12 PM   #4
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I talked to the folks at TurboXS about it and Phil told me they are exactly the same because the base map is so rich, that with the extra boost (less pressure loss) from the TMIC, you're still running relatively rich. -Bolster
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Old 03-18-2003, 11:37 PM   #5
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A little clarification is needed.

The TMI has less pressure drop so the air charge is denser and therefore if you wanted to run the same AFR you would have to add more fuel. Since the TMI adds a significant amount of efficiency to the system we didn't want it run richer but instead leaner, thus the same voltage pull down in the fuel table.

While they are the same programs the result is very different. Not only is MAF voltage different because the car is breathing better but so is the AFR.

It just happened that the STG4 program gives the power we wanted to get out of adding the TMI. That doesn't mean there isn't significantly more to be had by further tuning

So don't call us as they are the same but different.

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