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Old 03-19-2003, 01:53 PM   #1
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All of the pictures that people have taken of the STi seats look like this:


Now the pictures that Subaru have on their Japanese website look like this:


I am sure that pictures can be deceiving, so for those who have actually seen the seats which is more accurate, the more washed out blue or the darker, richer color?
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Old 03-19-2003, 01:58 PM   #2
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Top pic is more accurate.

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Old 03-19-2003, 05:06 PM   #3
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I'm so glad the top picture is what they come with and not the sky blue in the bottom picture.....

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Old 03-19-2003, 05:09 PM   #4
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Uhh, wouldn't the top be more of a sky blue than the bottom? I would much prefer the bottom picture blue on my seats, the top looks cheap. Light blue on faded black looks blehh

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Old 03-19-2003, 05:34 PM   #5
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The faded blue looks terrible in my opinion. That more vivid blue, bottom picture, is similar to what I have in my S4 which looks great.
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Old 03-19-2003, 05:59 PM   #6
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Well, remember that those *are* the pics off the JDM website, and they're not even the same seats. (Well, maybe the seat itself is, I can't tell myself...) You can see that the seat cover pattern is different between the two...


Though I agree that the brighter one would be preferable. I know the Audi alcantara blue ... yes indeed, quite pretty.
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Old 03-19-2003, 06:28 PM   #7
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The seats are different, look at the bottom part of the seats where the thighs are supposed to be. Can you see that the lower one pictures show the nicer seats having a raised bolster section, making the seat a tighter fit. Hopefully, the STI ones are the bottom ones.
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Old 03-20-2003, 10:30 AM   #8
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The seats are different, look at the bottom part of the seats where the thighs are supposed to be. Can you see that the lower one pictures show the nicer seats having a raised bolster section, making the seat a tighter fit. Hopefully, the STI ones are the bottom ones.
Uhh... see my original reply
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Old 03-20-2003, 11:29 AM   #9
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Uhh, wouldn't the top be more of a sky blue than the bottom? I would much prefer the bottom picture blue on my seats, the top looks cheap. Light blue on faded black looks blehh

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You're right. The fadded black looks bad with the water down blue.
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Old 03-20-2003, 11:32 AM   #10
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The faded blue looks terrible in my opinion. That more vivid blue, bottom picture, is similar to what I have in my S4 which looks great.
Hi;

You have an S4 and are you looking at STi? If yes, I like to know why you might consider owning an STi after driving an S4?

Thanks!
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Old 03-20-2003, 11:41 AM   #11
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ok, these are all of the interior shots of the US STi....make your decisions on the color


Edit: Thanks StealthWagon, didnt even notice the patches or RHD.

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Old 03-20-2003, 05:06 PM   #12
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The top picture is closer, but it's a little washed out. The interior looks very nice especially on a blue car, I was pretty happy with it.
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Old 03-20-2003, 05:54 PM   #13
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I still like the "not so bright" blue, especially with a silver STi. The top picture does look good though in the post right before this one.
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Old 03-20-2003, 07:36 PM   #14
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Hi;

You have an S4 and are you looking at STi? If yes, I like to know why you might consider owning an STi after driving an S4?

Thanks!
..Ben

Alot of people have been telling me that lately and while i'm seriously conflicted because I love the S4 I still think it needs to go. I have had a number of problems with mine which really makes me feel uncomfortable about keeping it for the long term. The main problem seems to be with the turbos. By nature they are a poor design and supposedly don't receive enough oil due to lines that were made improperly or something along those lines.

I am on my 3rd pair of turbos, the first went at 36k, the second about 2k later and now the new ones make the same very loud whining sound when they are cold that the 2nd set made. I feel the whining noise the 2nd set made was indicative that it would fail. (other people have experienced a similar noise with the same diagnosis, faulty wastegate, fix - must replace turbochargers)
Thats exactly what happened to mine and now the new ones after being chipped for 3 days make the same exact noise. So I am now stock until I can get rid of this car. That is the main reason I have an STI on order. If the S4 came with Ko4's stock like the RS4 I would be keeeping the car. Unfortunately I can't afford Ko4's with all the necessary upgrades and the tuners don't seem to have the software down yet either to make it run like it should.

If you want more of an explanation let me know.
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Old 03-20-2003, 08:44 PM   #15
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Turbobug-

Your post is misleading you say they are all the USDM STi? Well I know for a fact that the 3rd picture down isn't US, look at the seats, we dont get that black patch between our legs.

Also the 4th picture isn't US either, I'm quite certain we get a left hand drive STi, at least where I live. Just trying to clear some things up so no one gets confused.
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Old 03-20-2003, 11:37 PM   #16
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If you want more of an explanation let me know.
Yes, Please.
Here are my questions, and I'm asking them to make a decision based on people with previous experience rather some article from mag.

1) You seem to have problems with S4 turbos. Then why would you choose STi (another turbo) v.s. the new S4 with 4.2 liter?

2) How would an S4 driver feel about switching to a Subaru car? STi, seems to have great engineering specs, but would it match the class of an S4?

I'm trying to convince myself that STi is a better choice than 350Z or S4 or RX-8 or BMW 330Ci. Can you give me some pointers why I should go with STi?

Thank you in advance!

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Old 03-21-2003, 02:32 AM   #17
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Yes, Please.
Here are my questions, and I'm asking them to make a decision based on people with previous experience rather some article from mag.

1) You seem to have problems with S4 turbos. Then why would you choose STi (another turbo) v.s. the new S4 with 4.2 liter?

2) How would an S4 driver feel about switching to a Subaru car? STi, seems to have great engineering specs, but would it match the class of an S4?

I'm trying to convince myself that STi is a better choice than 350Z or S4 or RX-8 or BMW 330Ci. Can you give me some pointers why I should go with STi?

Thank you in advance!

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1. I love turbos, I love boost what can i say. Its addictive. I love the fatc that they have so much tuning potential. The new S4 is going to be too expensive, and have no tuning capabilities that will be significant. I believe the Sti will be mechanically more reliable than my S4 has been.

2. Switching from an S4 to an Sti is going to hurt in the luxury/refinement part. The S4 is quite inside, drives pretty good, is tight frame wise and has an amazing interior. There's no way the Sti will match the class of the S4. The Sti is essentially a race car made streetable, it has a different goal than the S4.

I'm hoping the weight reduction, handling improvement, better brakes, and overall reliability of the big stuff like turbos and transmission will outweigh what i'm losing in the S4.

I'll make it more clear here, if the Turbos on the S4 were more reliable I would keep that car without question. Its a great car and is alot of fun to drive. I absolutely love it until it starts giving me problems again. Otehr problems it has, failing maf's, leaky f hoses, blown tbb's sticking bpv's, misfires especially at idle, slider problem with transmission only fix is to replace, some radios go crazy, blown speakers here and there no big deal though. I'm sure there are others I just can't remember them now.

As for comparing the Sti to the other cars what I would do is make a list of what you need from a car. For me it was easy because I wanted all wheel drive. This left the S4, Evo or Sti. The US evo is ugly in my opinion and the interior is horrible, the new S4 is just not for me.

As far as the 350Z thats an awesome car with a great engine. It has the whole package. The tuners are pumping out stuff for that car. Superchargers are almost out and turbo kits are in R & D. Nissan dealers will be installing some of the stuff from Nismo with a warranty. Its hard to go wrong with the z, unless you need back seats and awd.

The rx8 is a cool car but it needs a pair of turbos strapped to it. I don't like the way the engine makes torque, similar to the S2000 with nothing down low.

The 3 series is ok with the new performance package they have but its very expensive and really doesn't attract my attention at all.

I'm still not convinced i'm doing the right thing especially after looking at those washed out blue seats but I'm going to stick with it.
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Old 03-21-2003, 08:15 AM   #18
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TurboPhoon;

You certainly DID answer my questions and you know your cars. The funny thing is that, I've been thinking along the same line about the above cars. And you can see why I'm confused which to buy.

I wish Sti was a coupe or a better looking sport (race) car than a four door plain looking. Yes, the new S4 with the options comes up to around 48K + tax + Insurance (state farm is increasing ins on the new S4 compared to the old one). So it'll come up to around 54K.

I test drove Z and WRX (with only 221hp), and the WRX gave a much more satisfactory feeling than the Z did. Somehow, the Z doesn't produce a linear accelaration as WRX or RSX-S did (and I suppose RX-8 will be more linear). You get lots of low, kind of flat between 3K to 5K RPM and then the kick comes.

I guess, the final decision will be made when I get to test drive the STi.
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Old 03-21-2003, 12:50 PM   #19
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I wonder if they will even allow test drives...
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Old 03-21-2003, 02:03 PM   #20
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ok, these are all of the interior shots of the US STi....make your decisions on the color
Those are NOT all pics of the USDM car. We don't get the black pad in the crotch area of the seat or right hand drive.

The pics you have do not look like the colors really lok in person, those are promo shots (or appear to be)
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Holy blurrly shot Batman!


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Old 03-22-2003, 10:07 AM   #23
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Holy blurrly shot Batman!


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Uhh, its the size, not the shot.
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