Official weight from SOC for the STI

Ziglabeu · 03-20-2003, 05:25 AM

I just received a pdf file with the spec of the new STI, canadian version...

Curb weight: 1484kg

The intercooler tank is in the trunk

Fuel: recommended 93 or higher, 91 minimum

Fuel economy(city/hwy): 13.4L/9.1L (100km)

Gear ratios:

1=3.636 2=2.375 3=1.761 4=1.346 5=0.971 6=0.756
Reverse=3.545
Final 3.900

Drag coef: 0.33

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JT-KGY · 03-20-2003, 05:31 AM

3,271.65997 lbs...

jaypride · 03-20-2003, 06:32 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JT-KGY
3,271.65997 lbs...

Plus HID balasts
Minus heated seat
US will be different

Ziglabeu · 03-20-2003, 07:03 AM

minus speaker, minus cd player... but who gonna ride the STI without those....

Jon [in CT] · 03-20-2003, 07:14 AM

Thanks for supplying the best estimates so far for the three TBDs on the USDM PDF spec sheet:
Curb Weight (lbs): 3271.7
EPA city mpg: 17.6
EPA highway mpg: 25.8

StiDreams · 03-20-2003, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JT-KGY
3,271.65997 lbs...

What were you expecting? It's definately not going to be as light as the JDM. We have all kinds of front and side collision weight/safety features. It's only 8 kg more than the EVO and rated to have 29 more hp. A very fair and equitable trade IMO. I would take another 8 kg for another 29 hp.

97itr153 · 03-20-2003, 02:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ziglabeu
minus speaker, minus cd player... but who gonna ride the STI without those....

I will...and so will a lot of other enthusiasts !

97itr153 · 03-20-2003, 04:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ziglabeu
I just received a pdf file with the spec of the new STI, canadian version...

Curb weight: 1484kg

Can someone please scan this info for us?

Paul H. What's your take on this?

JT-KGY · 03-20-2003, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by StiDreams

What were you expecting? It's definately not going to be as light as the JDM. We have all kinds of front and side collision weight/safety features. It's only 8 kg more than the EVO and rated to have 29 more hp. A very fair and equitable trade IMO. I would take another 8 kg for another 29 hp.

Where were you when people on this forum went over this a
million times?... Current WRX (STi) platform is already design
to pass US safety requirements... so if the WRX weighs around
3000lbs... I hoping not much more for the STi..

The extra 0.5 liter should also save some weight..

rlavalle · 03-20-2003, 04:46 PM

Here's a link to the Subaru Canada site. It's got a high tech interface. Slick.

http://www.wrx-sti.ca/

I couldn't find specs though.

Russ

Ziglabeu · 03-20-2003, 04:49 PM

I have the file (PDF) if some1 want
to host it I will send him ( I dont have a scanner... )

rlavalle · 03-20-2003, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ziglabeu
I have the file (PDF) if some1 want
to host it I will send him ( I dont have a scanner... )

I can host it. You can email it to me at: rlavalle@mac.com

Russ

StiDreams · 03-20-2003, 05:20 PM

3272 (weight from Canadian pdf) - 3085 (WRX weight from subaru's web site) = 187 pounds.

That's not that much more weight. If you add up the big stuff like the 6 speed MT and bigger brakes, that probably consumes most of the 187 pounds. Then there are little things like bigger inter-cooller, gigantic wing ... That sounds just about right. I wish it would be around 3085 also. It's a pretty tall order when you're adding big stuff unless you go really high tech. Hopefully we'll be pleasantly suprised by Subaru when they announce the weight for the USDM. If not, for me, 3272 is still a very acceptable weight. I don't race, my ride will probably only see a couple of lapping sessions/year and some spirited canyon driving.

JT-KGY · 03-20-2003, 05:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by StiDreams
3272 (weight from Canadian pdf) - 3085 (WRX weight from subaru's web site) = 187 pounds.

That's not that much more weight. If you add up the big stuff like the 6 speed MT and bigger brakes, that probably consumes most of the 187 pounds. Then there are little things like bigger inter-cooller, gigantic wing ... That sounds just about right. I wish it would be around 3085 also. It's a pretty tall order when you're adding big stuff unless you go really high tech. Hopefully we'll be pleasantly suprised by Subaru when they announce the weight for the USDM. If not, for me, 3272 is still a very acceptable weight. I don't race, my ride will probably only see a couple of lapping sessions/year and some spirited canyon driving.

Or we can compare with the JDM spec STi...
http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/sedan/09/index.html
it has the same 6 speed (I believe), same omitted radio, same
intercooler...same giant wing... and weighs 1440 kg or 3175 lbs...
(Although I'm wondering if this is dry weight or curb weight...??)
http://www.subaru.co.jp/impreza/sedan/09/09_02.html

The difference should be that USDM gets 2.5 liters (lighter than
JDM) and different turbo (not sure about the weight)???

Anyways.. I hope to be surprised by subaru as well...

BTW, here's the translation of the japanese pages...
1st: http://babelfish.altavista.com/babel...p=ja_en&tt=url
2nd: http://babelfish.altavista.com/babel...p=ja_en&tt=url

rlavalle · 03-20-2003, 06:09 PM

I would imagine the brakes would be lighter. My massive Stoptech Big Brake Kit is lighter than the stock setup (Aluminum instead of cast iron calipers, Aluminum rotor top hats)

Russ

StiDreams · 03-20-2003, 08:01 PM

JT-KGY,

I beleave that the JDM people weight their autos dry. Thanks for the info.

P2x · 03-20-2003, 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ziglabeu
I just received a pdf file with the spec of the new STI, canadian version...

Fuel: recommended 93 or higher, 91 minimum

Does this mean it won't produce 300HP using 91?

ANZAC_1915 · 03-20-2003, 10:31 PM

91 is the MIN AKI.

What do y'all think it will make on 91, 285?

Of course until we get the US specs we won't know for sure.
I'd be surprised if the EVO made 271 on 91 either.

Glenn

PS the 6MT+DCCD probably accounts for a lot of the weight difference.

rlavalle · 03-21-2003, 01:13 AM

OK, I'm hosting the STi Specs PDF here:

2004WRXSTi.PDF

Enjoy,
Russ

Ziglabeu · 03-21-2003, 01:19 AM

Well ... here 93 is very hard to find... is it complicated to boost the octane with octane booster ? like 91-92 to 93-94 ? Do I need a lot of booster to do it? Some1 know the price of a can of booster?

makofoto · 03-21-2003, 01:34 AM

Boost juice is expensive and only adds tenths of points of octane. I add two gallons of 114 octane toluene to each 10 gallon fill up of 91 octane gas ... giving me 94.8 octane. I believe this does give me a bit more punch ... and seems to have smoothed out my torque curve. The head mechanic at the garage that put on my exhaust said that my WRX seemed a bit stronger then other ones with similiar mods.

My local ICI Paint store ... big chain ... sells me a gallon of toluene for $5.84 ... 100 octane "racing" fuel is going for $5.85/gallon here is the Los Angeles area. I've opened up an account with them ... and can get that deal at any ICI store ... using the card they sent me.

RA29 · 03-21-2003, 04:10 AM

1484kg?? That's a fat car . . . just as bad as the Evo8
Maybe that's why Subaru took so long to release the figures.

The Evo makes a lot more power when using 100 octane gas as compared to 92 octane gas.
There wont be much difference between 93 and 91 octane though.

Hmm, at 1484kg for the STi, the Evo with much nicer seats and slightly cheaper price is beginning to look more appealing . . .

scott_gunn · 03-21-2003, 06:58 AM

"Nicer seats and slightly lower price"

If the seats are what's important to you, than by all means go for the EVO (or Taurus or something

).

Just kidding around - don't forget that most Subaru dealers won't be selling above MSRP, whereas it seems most EVOs are going for thousands above MSRP, basically evening out the price.

The STi gets a 6 speed, a much more advanced all wheel drive system, weighs less, nicer interior, a gas tank larger than a milk jug, and oh yeah, a lot more power.

The EVO gets Recaros, and.... that's about it.

LinuxGuy · 03-21-2003, 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by RA29
1484kg?? That's a fat car . . . just as bad as the Evo8
Maybe that's why Subaru took so long to release the figures.

The Evo makes a lot more power when using 100 octane gas as compared to 92 octane gas.
There wont be much difference between 93 and 91 octane though.

Hmm, at 1484kg for the STi, the Evo with much nicer seats and slightly cheaper price is beginning to look more appealing . . .

It still has a phenominal power:weight ratio!

ANZAC_1915 · 03-21-2003, 08:12 AM

The DCCD is a big differentiator, at least for the people that care about it.

03-20-2003, 05:25 AM	#1
Ziglabeu Scooby Newbie Member#: 4024 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Canada Vehicle: 2004 impreza WRX STi World Rallye Blue	Official weight from SOC for the STI I just received a pdf file with the spec of the new STI, canadian version... Curb weight: 1484kg The intercooler tank is in the trunk Fuel: recommended 93 or higher, 91 minimum Fuel economy(city/hwy): 13.4L/9.1L (100km) Gear ratios: 1=3.636 2=2.375 3=1.761 4=1.346 5=0.971 6=0.756 Reverse=3.545 Final 3.900 Drag coef: 0.33 * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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03-20-2003, 05:31 AM	#2
JT-KGY Scooby Specialist Member#: 7852 Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Alhambra, CA Vehicle: 03 White Lan EVO 8 97 Techno-Violet BMW M3/2	3,271.65997 lbs...

03-20-2003, 07:03 AM	#4
Ziglabeu Scooby Newbie Member#: 4024 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Canada Vehicle: 2004 impreza WRX STi World Rallye Blue	minus speaker, minus cd player... but who gonna ride the STI without those....

03-20-2003, 07:14 AM	#5
Jon [in CT] * Banned * Member#: 2992 Join Date: Nov 2000 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Connecticut, USA Vehicle: 02 WRX Sedan Silver	Thanks for supplying the best estimates so far for the three TBDs on the USDM PDF spec sheet: Curb Weight (lbs): 3271.7 EPA city mpg: 17.6 EPA highway mpg: 25.8

03-20-2003, 04:46 PM	#10
rlavalle Scooby Specialist Member#: 18384 Join Date: May 2002 Location: Seattle 'burb (Kirkland) Vehicle: 2004 STi: 580 AWHP Java Black Pearl	Here's a link to the Subaru Canada site. It's got a high tech interface. Slick. http://www.wrx-sti.ca/ I couldn't find specs though. Russ

03-20-2003, 04:49 PM	#11
Ziglabeu Scooby Newbie Member#: 4024 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Canada Vehicle: 2004 impreza WRX STi World Rallye Blue	I have the file (PDF) if some1 want to host it I will send him ( I dont have a scanner... )

03-20-2003, 05:20 PM	#13
StiDreams Scooby Specialist Member#: 26315 Join Date: Oct 2002 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: On the grassy knoll. Vehicle: 07 Outback Silver/Silver	3272 (weight from Canadian pdf) - 3085 (WRX weight from subaru's web site) = 187 pounds. That's not that much more weight. If you add up the big stuff like the 6 speed MT and bigger brakes, that probably consumes most of the 187 pounds. Then there are little things like bigger inter-cooller, gigantic wing ... That sounds just about right. I wish it would be around 3085 also. It's a pretty tall order when you're adding big stuff unless you go really high tech. Hopefully we'll be pleasantly suprised by Subaru when they announce the weight for the USDM. If not, for me, 3272 is still a very acceptable weight. I don't race, my ride will probably only see a couple of lapping sessions/year and some spirited canyon driving.

03-20-2003, 06:09 PM	#15
rlavalle Scooby Specialist Member#: 18384 Join Date: May 2002 Location: Seattle 'burb (Kirkland) Vehicle: 2004 STi: 580 AWHP Java Black Pearl	I would imagine the brakes would be lighter. My massive Stoptech Big Brake Kit is lighter than the stock setup (Aluminum instead of cast iron calipers, Aluminum rotor top hats) Russ

03-20-2003, 08:01 PM	#16
StiDreams Scooby Specialist Member#: 26315 Join Date: Oct 2002 Chapter/Region: BAIC Location: On the grassy knoll. Vehicle: 07 Outback Silver/Silver	JT-KGY, I beleave that the JDM people weight their autos dry. Thanks for the info.

03-20-2003, 10:31 PM	#18
ANZAC_1915 Moderator Member#: 456 Join Date: Oct 1999 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Redmond, WA, USA Vehicle: 2008 Forester XT Steel Gray Metallic	91 is the MIN AKI. What do y'all think it will make on 91, 285? Of course until we get the US specs we won't know for sure. I'd be surprised if the EVO made 271 on 91 either. Glenn PS the 6MT+DCCD probably accounts for a lot of the weight difference.

03-21-2003, 01:13 AM	#19
rlavalle Scooby Specialist Member#: 18384 Join Date: May 2002 Location: Seattle 'burb (Kirkland) Vehicle: 2004 STi: 580 AWHP Java Black Pearl	OK, I'm hosting the STi Specs PDF here: 2004WRXSTi.PDF Enjoy, Russ

03-21-2003, 01:19 AM	#20
Ziglabeu Scooby Newbie Member#: 4024 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Canada Vehicle: 2004 impreza WRX STi World Rallye Blue	Well ... here 93 is very hard to find... is it complicated to boost the octane with octane booster ? like 91-92 to 93-94 ? Do I need a lot of booster to do it? Some1 know the price of a can of booster?

03-21-2003, 01:34 AM	#21
makofoto Scooby Guru Member#: 25243 Join Date: Sep 2002 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: South Pasadena, CA Vehicle: 2006 Legacy Outback Blue	Boost juice is expensive and only adds tenths of points of octane. I add two gallons of 114 octane toluene to each 10 gallon fill up of 91 octane gas ... giving me 94.8 octane. I believe this does give me a bit more punch ... and seems to have smoothed out my torque curve. The head mechanic at the garage that put on my exhaust said that my WRX seemed a bit stronger then other ones with similiar mods. My local ICI Paint store ... big chain ... sells me a gallon of toluene for $5.84 ... 100 octane "racing" fuel is going for $5.85/gallon here is the Los Angeles area. I've opened up an account with them ... and can get that deal at any ICI store ... using the card they sent me.

03-21-2003, 04:10 AM	#22
RA29 Scooby Specialist Member#: 30598 Join Date: Dec 2002 Vehicle: 2000 Lancer Evo 6 Hot Pink	1484kg?? That's a fat car . . . just as bad as the Evo8 Maybe that's why Subaru took so long to release the figures. The Evo makes a lot more power when using 100 octane gas as compared to 92 octane gas. There wont be much difference between 93 and 91 octane though. Hmm, at 1484kg for the STi, the Evo with much nicer seats and slightly cheaper price is beginning to look more appealing . . .

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03-21-2003, 08:12 AM	#25
ANZAC_1915 Moderator Member#: 456 Join Date: Oct 1999 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Redmond, WA, USA Vehicle: 2008 Forester XT Steel Gray Metallic	The DCCD is a big differentiator, at least for the people that care about it.