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Old 03-20-2003, 10:05 AM   #1
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Is it true that in MA an expired inspection sticker is a fine AND 2(?) points on your insurance? I've heard that, and perpetuated it, but was trying to verify it. I'm looking for documented proof, I alreadyhave a half-assed opinion. :LOL: TIA!

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Old 03-20-2003, 10:47 AM   #2
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I was ticketed for expired inspection 6,7 years ago, there was no points added to my record. Unless they changed the law since then.
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Old 03-20-2003, 11:08 AM   #3
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AN ACT RELATIVE TO THE SAFE DRIVER INSURANCE PLAN.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives in General Court assembled, and by the authority of the same, as follows:


The twelfth paragraph of section 113 B of chapter 175 of the General Laws, as appearing in the 2000 Official Edition, is hereby amended by striking out the last 2 sentences and inserting in place thereof the following 2 sentences:- The registrar shall develop a system for separately reporting violations for driving a motor vehicle which has an expired registration sticker affixed to the license plate or an expired inspection sticker attached to the front windshield. When the registrar has implemented the system, driving a motor vehicle which has an expired registration sticker or an expired inspection sticker shall not be a surchargeable incident.

Edit: The above text has been updated in the MGL too.
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Old 03-20-2003, 11:15 AM   #4
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FYI, I've gotten a ticket from a meter maid before for that. I've also been told by a cop that if I were caught driving with an expired sticker that it was a moving violation(I actually was driving with an expired sticker). Sorry, no proof to back it up.
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Old 03-20-2003, 11:16 AM   #5
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Yeah I would love to know when that is going to be in effect. 2 years ago I got a ticket because I forgot to renew my registration, not inspection sticker. I got a $100 fine and they impounded the vehicle on the spot. Cost me $100 more to have the car towed about 8' since when they pulled me over I pulled into the parking lot of a small garage which is where they have the cars towed to. Also got a ticket recently for bad inspection sticker. I got a rejection sticker because I had an exhaust leak then that killed my 02 sensor so I fixed the exhaust and replaced the 02 sensor the day before and had plans to get the new sticker the next day at lunch (which I did) it cost me $50 along with a small speeding fine. (first speeding ticket in 4 years )
But I didn't hear anything about it being 2 points! I hope not! That would be about $400/yr for 5yrs.
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Old 03-20-2003, 11:16 AM   #6
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Its supposed to be for 2003.
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Old 03-20-2003, 11:18 AM   #7
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See there's a difference....

Can you get a ticket for it? Yes.
Can you be towed? Yes.
Can it be surchargable (points) on your record against your insurance premium? NO. (Not any more as of 2003)
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Old 03-20-2003, 11:57 AM   #8
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When the registrar has implemented the system, driving a motor vehicle which has an expired registration sticker or an expired inspection sticker shall not be a surchargeable incident.

Edit: The above text has been updated in the MGL too.
Excellent!! Thank you, and how did you find that so easily?

I feel an expired inspection should be a simple fine, but a surcharge on the insurance is absurd! Let's see 2 points, plus losing your safe driver credit x 6 years= a boatload of cash for the insurance companies!

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Old 03-20-2003, 12:03 PM   #9
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I got 2 points for that back in 2000.
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Old 03-20-2003, 12:07 PM   #10
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Excellent!! Thank you, and how did you find that so easily?

I feel an expired inspection should be a simple fine, but a surcharge on the insurance is absurd! Let's see 2 points, plus losing your safe driver credit x 6 years= a boatload of cash for the insurance companies!

/bill
It's online. I have them bookmarked.

http://www.state.ma.us/legis/laws/mgl/

I suggest anyone with a car in MA to read Chapter 90 (and subchapters). It's most of the laws about the ownership and driving of your car in MA.

Chapter 89 is the 'Laws of the road' chapter. Good reading. For example...

Chapter 89 Section 4: http://www.state.ma.us/legis/laws/mgl/89-4.htm

Whenever on any way, public or private, there is not an unobstructed view of the road for at least four hundred feet, the driver of every vehicle shall keep his vehicle on the right of the middle of the traveled part of the way, whenever it is safe and practicable so to do.

This is the relatively unenforced law, keep right except to pass.

And this is my favorite: http://www.state.ma.us/legis/laws/mgl/90-7R.5.htm Section 7R. Dealers insignias, logos or plates; placement on motor vehicles; consent.

You realize the dealership that you buy a new car from has to have a specific form that you sign giving them consent to have their logo on your car? They can be fined if they don't have your approval. But you can also ask them to take it off/not install and they must comply.




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Old 03-20-2003, 01:04 PM   #11
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Does anyone know for sure about the points?

I "bet" you loose the safe driver discount, which isn't surcharging you. Your SDIP sheet may list the ticket for no inspection as "0" points, but to have a safe driver discount you need to be free of any moving violation. This may count as a moving violation without points, but in that case you loose the discount.

So the moral of the story:
Don't forget to get your car inspected.

Again, I don't know for sure, but these insurance companies are big weasels.

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Old 03-20-2003, 01:17 PM   #12
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And this is my favorite: http://www.state.ma.us/legis/laws/mgl/90-7R.5.htm Section 7R. Dealers insignias, logos or plates; placement on motor vehicles; consent.

You realize the dealership that you buy a new car from has to have a specific form that you sign giving them consent to have their logo on your car? They can be fined if they don't have your approval. But you can also ask them to take it off/not install and they must comply.

--kC
You can also make them find you either a) a new car, or b) provide a brank new trunk lid if they have drilled to install their dopey logo. I made them find me a new car.

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Old 03-20-2003, 01:41 PM   #13
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Does anyone know for sure about the points?

I "bet" you loose the safe driver discount, which isn't surcharging you. Your SDIP sheet may list the ticket for no inspection as "0" points, but to have a safe driver discount you need to be free of any moving violation. This may count as a moving violation without points, but in that case you loose the discount.

So the moral of the story:
Don't forget to get your car inspected.

Again, I don't know for sure, but these insurance companies are big weasels.

Paul G.
Paul, best bet is to call the Insurance Board and ask. I 'bet' that you DON'T lose any discount. It would be along the same lines as a parkling ticket. Forgetting to get your car inspected has no bearing on me being a 'safe driver'.

Heck, I'll take a pic of my wagons inspection sticker and the Tahoes while I'm at it. You cannot even see the number... it's gone, faded into oblivion.

Also, MA tells the insurance companies what they can and cannot do. One of the few states where that's the case. It's all mandated. So in MA, having lived in another state previously, I think has one of the most fair practices out there.

Speaking of insurance, those of you with Arbella may want to think of finding new insurance if you haven't been contacted by your agent yet. Their parent company is having money problems and Arbella may be folding soon. Call your agent to confirm.

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Old 03-20-2003, 01:47 PM   #14
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I agree KC. You shouldn't lose your safe driver discount for being forgetful, but I wouldn't be surprised is all I'm say'in. Definetly worth a call if anyone is concerned.

After my personal experience with the "Preferred Body Shop List" (that is also state run according to my insurance company), and Commerce Insurance Company that I'm having right now nothing would surprise me.

But that will be an completly different post once things are settled and my car is the correct color.

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