What's with the "I'm giving up my spot" stuff???

PunksWRX · 03-21-2003, 03:21 AM

I'm sure I'm probably gonna get some people hot with this thread but I'm wondering what people are thinking when they post their STI waiting list "spots" to give away or for sale. Do these people actually have signed sales contracts with their dealership that state that they can sign their spots over to another person? If they do have this written into a signed sales contract good for them but I'm getting the impression some of these people have only a verbal agreement with their dealership. Some of the dealers I have spoke to are implying that if a deposit is pulled by a customer deciding not to purchase, the remaining people on the list are moved up. This sounds like the fair thing to do. I'm sure Subaru of America would probably agree.

just wondering . . .

Punk

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cabalisticfire · 03-21-2003, 09:09 AM

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Originally posted by PunksWRX
I'm sure I'm probably gonna get some people hot with this thread but I'm wondering what people are thinking when they post their STI waiting list "spots" to give away or for sale. Do these people actually have signed sales contracts with their dealership that state that they can sign their spots over to another person? If they do have this written into a signed sales contract good for them but I'm getting the impression some of these people have only a verbal agreement with their dealership. Some of the dealers I have spoke to are implying that if a deposit is pulled by a customer deciding not to purchase, the remaining people on the list are moved up. This sounds like the fair thing to do. I'm sure Subaru of America would probably agree.

just wondering . . .

Punk

I had to give up my slot due to some job instablility concerns. As far as the transfer of my slot, it went like this. I posted on here and got replys from a few people who wanted the slot. I went with the 1st person that responded. I did not take any money or other form of compensation nor did I guarantee that the dealer would accecpt the swap. I took that person's information, called the dealer and explained that I had to pull my deposit but I had someone that wanted to take my slot. The dealer took that person's info and contacted them directly and worked out the rest of the deal. The way I see it this is a win win situation for all parties. I got my deposit back, the dealer still makes a sale, a nasioc member gets hooked up, and everyone else that was waiting for an STI at that dealer is unaffected. Can't see how this would bother anyone too much.

balajc · 03-21-2003, 09:27 AM

I saw someone on ebay auctioning his "#1 spot" for a STI...guess how much? $2,000!!!

basically you would pay the guy $2000 to purchase his STI

cabalisticfire · 03-21-2003, 09:42 AM

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Originally posted by balajc
I saw someone on ebay auctioning his "#1 spot" for a STI...guess how much? $2,000!!!

basically you would pay the guy $2000 to purchase his STI

I would have serious concerns over the ability of the person selling this "right to buy" being able to actually transfer their slot to who ever paid that $2000. Unless ofcourse the post on ebay was from a dealer or someone directly associated with a dealer.

NotFast · 03-21-2003, 11:17 AM

I think you guys are missing Punks point. I think he's saying this: how can you give up a spot on the waiting list when there's no contractural agreement between the buyer and the dealer, unless money gets exchanged until the sales contract gets signed, or $$ gets exchanged.

I don't know PunksWRX, but I don't think he's crude enough to call someone an idiot for not buying a car they can't afford....

Oldnslow · 03-21-2003, 12:19 PM

I think Punk has a point. Why should some Johnny come lately be jumped over the folks that plopped down deposits and have to wait for an STI longer than they might have? Sure, it's "legal" and all of that, but I wouldn't think much of a dealer who jumped somebody over the enthusiasts who earlier committed to the STI

RSX2STI · 03-21-2003, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Oldnslow
I think Punk has a point. Why should some Johnny come lately be jumped over the folks that plopped down deposits and have to wait for an STI longer than they might have? Sure, it's "legal" and all of that, but I wouldn't think much of a dealer who jumped somebody over the enthusiasts who earlier committed to the STI

I totally agree with you man. Every dealership has told me that if you wish to withdraw your refundable deposit you can do so at any time and the person after you on the list would be bumped up. That is the whole idea behind "first right or refusal" and it seems only fair that people that have been waiting for months on the list are much more deserving of a higher place on the list than people who aren't. I don't really care that much about this issue, but I just think that what I have said is common sense and every person on the STI list will definitely welcome a bump up.

cabalisticfire · 03-21-2003, 02:58 PM

I did have a contract with the dealer. I had in writing that I was to recieve the 1st STI to arrive at that dealer, that no one was allowed to test drive the car, and that the deposit was refundable. I gave them $500.

Now, as to the fairness of swappng slots I say it's not worth our breath arguing about it. Dealers will do what the want and we will never have control of that. Besides, I hooked up a fellow nasioc member how bad could that be?

Nolift911 · 03-21-2003, 04:38 PM

Being the recipient of the one that got the hookup I can see Punk's point.

On the other hand you put a deposit down knowing that you are 1, 2, 3, or whatever. I was 7th or 8th or 9th somewhere else and if somneone swapped their spot for mine so what? If I wasn't comfortable with the spot I would bail (like I did) but if 2 guys decided to bail and I did not get moved up in line I wouldn't care.

It is a spot, if you put money down on it you are comfortable with it.... I don't look ahead for people dropping out and getting my car earlier. But that is just me and I can totally see the other opinion.

Unless these policies are governed by SOA or a dealer it is pretty much whatever goes as we are seeing...I certainly don't see ethical issues with it. I am in the process if giving up my spot to another also...if the dealer says no, who am I to say yes? if the dealer says yes then I help out another enthusiast....

-Jeff
nolift911@hotmail.com

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03-21-2003, 03:21 AM	#1
PunksWRX Scooby Specialist Member#: 5504 Join Date: Apr 2001 Location: Colorado Springs, CO. USA Vehicle: 2004 Impreza WRX STi Aspen White	What's with the "I'm giving up my spot" stuff??? I'm sure I'm probably gonna get some people hot with this thread but I'm wondering what people are thinking when they post their STI waiting list "spots" to give away or for sale. Do these people actually have signed sales contracts with their dealership that state that they can sign their spots over to another person? If they do have this written into a signed sales contract good for them but I'm getting the impression some of these people have only a verbal agreement with their dealership. Some of the dealers I have spoke to are implying that if a deposit is pulled by a customer deciding not to purchase, the remaining people on the list are moved up. This sounds like the fair thing to do. I'm sure Subaru of America would probably agree. just wondering . . . Punk * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

03-21-2003, 09:27 AM	#3
balajc Scooby Specialist Member#: 15393 Join Date: Feb 2002 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: Nassau County, LI Vehicle: MY00 2.5RS Coupe 5MT Silverthorn Metallic	I saw someone on ebay auctioning his "#1 spot" for a STI...guess how much? $2,000!!! basically you would pay the guy $2000 to purchase his STI

03-21-2003, 11:17 AM	#5
NotFast Scooby Newbie Member#: 10119 Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Schaumburg, IL	I think you guys are missing Punks point. I think he's saying this: how can you give up a spot on the waiting list when there's no contractural agreement between the buyer and the dealer, unless money gets exchanged until the sales contract gets signed, or $$ gets exchanged. I don't know PunksWRX, but I don't think he's crude enough to call someone an idiot for not buying a car they can't afford....

03-21-2003, 12:19 PM	#6
Oldnslow Scooby Newbie Member#: 4572 Join Date: Mar 2001 Location: Seattle,Washington,USA Vehicle: 2002 WRX WRB	I think Punk has a point. Why should some Johnny come lately be jumped over the folks that plopped down deposits and have to wait for an STI longer than they might have? Sure, it's "legal" and all of that, but I wouldn't think much of a dealer who jumped somebody over the enthusiasts who earlier committed to the STI

03-21-2003, 02:58 PM	#8
cabalisticfire Scooby Newbie Member#: 4109 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Charlotte, NC Vehicle: 2005 STI WR Blue w/Gold	I did have a contract with the dealer. I had in writing that I was to recieve the 1st STI to arrive at that dealer, that no one was allowed to test drive the car, and that the deposit was refundable. I gave them $500. Now, as to the fairness of swappng slots I say it's not worth our breath arguing about it. Dealers will do what the want and we will never have control of that. Besides, I hooked up a fellow nasioc member how bad could that be?

03-21-2003, 04:38 PM	#9
Nolift911 Scooby Newbie Member#: 33093 Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Potomac Falls, VA	Being the recipient of the one that got the hookup I can see Punk's point. On the other hand you put a deposit down knowing that you are 1, 2, 3, or whatever. I was 7th or 8th or 9th somewhere else and if somneone swapped their spot for mine so what? If I wasn't comfortable with the spot I would bail (like I did) but if 2 guys decided to bail and I did not get moved up in line I wouldn't care. It is a spot, if you put money down on it you are comfortable with it.... I don't look ahead for people dropping out and getting my car earlier. But that is just me and I can totally see the other opinion. Unless these policies are governed by SOA or a dealer it is pretty much whatever goes as we are seeing...I certainly don't see ethical issues with it. I am in the process if giving up my spot to another also...if the dealer says no, who am I to say yes? if the dealer says yes then I help out another enthusiast.... -Jeff nolift911@hotmail.com