Local driving school @ Mission Raceway today

spoonek4 · 03-23-2003, 01:08 AM

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Orbiter · 03-23-2003, 06:44 AM

Cool! I plan on doing one later in the year...

any iclubbers there? which club was this?

spoonek4 · 03-23-2003, 11:53 AM

I think this is SCCBC. Not the PDC ones. I want to attend one of these after I got my own car also. Earliest one I can go will be @ Pacific Raceway(SIR) but I don't think I will have my car that soon.

Kevin · 03-23-2003, 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Orbiter
Cool! I plan on doing one later in the year...

any iclubbers there? which club was this?

Looks like the SCCBC driver training. They usually have two per year, one near the end of March and one in the summer sometime. Highly recommended, cheaper than the PDC ones, very experienced instructors. It's usually 2 days on the track with 1 day in the classroom.

tora · 03-23-2003, 02:35 PM

Jackie what car are you getting?

-S- · 03-23-2003, 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Orbiter
Cool! I plan on doing one later in the year...

any iclubbers there? which club was this?

The blue wagon is Banman's

spoonek4 · 03-23-2003, 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by -S-

The blue wagon is Banman's

Nice hope he can give some feedback related this event.

Jamie: I'm gonna get a civic or integra. Gotta see what is available in the market first. Anyway I will save up some more first and hope I can get one this fall.

spoonek4 · 03-23-2003, 08:20 PM

Here is the album with other pix in there guys!

http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290481317

banman · 03-24-2003, 04:21 AM

I think I was the only I-clubber there, although obviously not the only Subie. There was a blue sedan, and another blue sedan owned by one of the instructors, and sometime later in the day a silver WRX showed up as well.

There was a sweet S4 with six-pot 13.something" rotors up front, an M3, an SVT Mustang and . . .a Yugo!

Spoonex4, you should have dropped by the paddock to say hi!

The course was great! Ross Bentley gave the classroom session last weekend, but unfortunately he was not among the in-car instructors.

Good thing I changed my brake pads and fluid - quite a few cars (Golf VR6, Integra Type-R, RSX . . .) had some severe fade and brake fluid boilage going on by the end of the day - my brakes held up fine. Now I have to see how much is left of my pads!

After one of the track sessions, an older guy driving a Cooper S came up to me and said something along the lines of "How did you move up on me so fast? What's under the hood of that thing? Aren't Subarus supposed to be playing in the snow? Then he asked about the engine specs, and I guess he thought that I had added the turbo myself, 'cause the conversation went something like:

"How much boost you running?"

"14.7"

"How much power do you think you've got?"

"227."

His eyes go wide

Then the rain came. And I spun the car in turn 4. And thus the rain gods were appeased. And the sun came out

I hope to have some video footage edited sometime later this week. 'Til then, check out the download from the heart-rate monitor I was wearing (ignoring the drops to 0, of course - must have been interference):

Orbiter · 03-24-2003, 05:08 AM

Hey sounds like lots of fun. Thanks for the feedback baman. I hope to do this event in summer. =)

hoking · 03-24-2003, 11:58 AM

why were you wearing heart rate monitors?

banman · 03-24-2003, 12:35 PM

I just brought mine for fun . . . BTW max heart rate from the runs was about twice my normal resting, or about what it would be from a slow jog.

spoonek4 · 03-24-2003, 12:50 PM

Banman: So u had a lot of fun? Sorry that I didn't come up to say hi coz I didn't stay there for long, I left before the lunch time I think. And I have to work yesterday so I can't go to Mission again. I'm sure I missed the best part of the whole driving course.

My friend in the white ITR sure went through some brake fade problems. I'm not sure if my other friend in the silver civic hatchback have the same problem coz I haven't talk with him yet. Both of them are using OE brake rotors with "ran-in" performance pads & SS brake line etc.

banman · 03-25-2003, 02:07 AM

Oh yeah, one more thing:
New low in fuel economy: 13.92 MPG (17L/100km)!

Kevin · 03-25-2003, 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by banman
Oh yeah, one more thing:
New low in fuel economy: 13.92 MPG (17L/100km)!

At the last track day I went through a half tank of gas in 30 minutes of running!

Orbiter · 03-27-2003, 05:53 AM

Banman,

how much was the course? how much track time? how much class instruction time?

banman · 03-27-2003, 12:17 PM

Orbiter,

$400 - One day (about 5 hrs) classroom time, two days (8:30-5:00 or 5:30) track time, broken up into sessions of about 15 minutes each. Instructor to student ratio was good (1:2); about fifty or sixty cars total, so the group was usually broken up into two or three groups for on-track events. If you're at all familiar with cars, physics, and racing, the classroom session isn' t that useful (except for clarification about flags). The track time is what is really golden. Although I'm curious, since all the instructors are volunteers, where they manage to spend the course fees - how much could it be costing them to get the track for two days? $400x60 people = $24,000! Either it costs a fortune to get the track time or this is a nice fundraiser for SCCBC.

Also - a couple of mouthbreathers among the students, but for the most part fellow students were mature and helpful. Just a caution that I was warned by a reputable source that one of their instructors has a bad track record of wrecking peoples' cars. I can PM you his name if you want, but he wasn't teaching at this session anyway.

And I would highly recommend getting good brake pads and better fluid; brake fade was a problem with a lot of the cars out there.

03-23-2003, 01:08 AM	#1
spoonek4 Scooby Newbie Member#: 30784 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Burnaby,BC Vehicle: 2007 Honda Fit Silver	Local driving school @ Mission Raceway today * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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03-23-2003, 06:44 AM	#2
Orbiter Scooby Specialist Member#: 66 Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, C Vehicle: 2002 Impreza WRX Britney Edition	Cool! I plan on doing one later in the year... any iclubbers there? which club was this?

03-23-2003, 11:53 AM	#3
spoonek4 Scooby Newbie Member#: 30784 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Burnaby,BC Vehicle: 2007 Honda Fit Silver	I think this is SCCBC. Not the PDC ones. I want to attend one of these after I got my own car also. Earliest one I can go will be @ Pacific Raceway(SIR) but I don't think I will have my car that soon.

03-23-2003, 02:35 PM	#5
tora Scooby Guru Member#: 5851 Join Date: Apr 2001 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Vancouver Vehicle: 09 Forester XT + NA Miata	Jackie what car are you getting?

03-23-2003, 08:20 PM	#8
spoonek4 Scooby Newbie Member#: 30784 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Burnaby,BC Vehicle: 2007 Honda Fit Silver	Here is the album with other pix in there guys! http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290481317

03-24-2003, 04:21 AM	#9
banman Scooby Specialist Member#: 12408 Join Date: Nov 2001 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Lotusland Vehicle: 2006 Legacy GT Silver	I think I was the only I-clubber there, although obviously not the only Subie. There was a blue sedan, and another blue sedan owned by one of the instructors, and sometime later in the day a silver WRX showed up as well. There was a sweet S4 with six-pot 13.something" rotors up front, an M3, an SVT Mustang and . . .a Yugo! Spoonex4, you should have dropped by the paddock to say hi! The course was great! Ross Bentley gave the classroom session last weekend, but unfortunately he was not among the in-car instructors. Good thing I changed my brake pads and fluid - quite a few cars (Golf VR6, Integra Type-R, RSX . . .) had some severe fade and brake fluid boilage going on by the end of the day - my brakes held up fine. Now I have to see how much is left of my pads! After one of the track sessions, an older guy driving a Cooper S came up to me and said something along the lines of "How did you move up on me so fast? What's under the hood of that thing? Aren't Subarus supposed to be playing in the snow? Then he asked about the engine specs, and I guess he thought that I had added the turbo myself, 'cause the conversation went something like: "How much boost you running?" "14.7" "How much power do you think you've got?" "227." His eyes go wide Then the rain came. And I spun the car in turn 4. And thus the rain gods were appeased. And the sun came out I hope to have some video footage edited sometime later this week. 'Til then, check out the download from the heart-rate monitor I was wearing (ignoring the drops to 0, of course - must have been interference):

03-24-2003, 05:08 AM	#10
Orbiter Scooby Specialist Member#: 66 Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, C Vehicle: 2002 Impreza WRX Britney Edition	Hey sounds like lots of fun. Thanks for the feedback baman. I hope to do this event in summer. =)

03-24-2003, 11:58 AM	#11
hoking Scooby Newbie Member#: 20152 Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Coquitlam, BC Vehicle: 04 Forester 2.5XS Aspen White	why were you wearing heart rate monitors?

03-24-2003, 12:35 PM	#12
banman Scooby Specialist Member#: 12408 Join Date: Nov 2001 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Lotusland Vehicle: 2006 Legacy GT Silver	I just brought mine for fun . . . BTW max heart rate from the runs was about twice my normal resting, or about what it would be from a slow jog.

03-24-2003, 12:50 PM	#13
spoonek4 Scooby Newbie Member#: 30784 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Burnaby,BC Vehicle: 2007 Honda Fit Silver	Banman: So u had a lot of fun? Sorry that I didn't come up to say hi coz I didn't stay there for long, I left before the lunch time I think. And I have to work yesterday so I can't go to Mission again. I'm sure I missed the best part of the whole driving course. My friend in the white ITR sure went through some brake fade problems. I'm not sure if my other friend in the silver civic hatchback have the same problem coz I haven't talk with him yet. Both of them are using OE brake rotors with "ran-in" performance pads & SS brake line etc.

03-25-2003, 02:07 AM	#14
banman Scooby Specialist Member#: 12408 Join Date: Nov 2001 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Lotusland Vehicle: 2006 Legacy GT Silver	Oh yeah, one more thing: New low in fuel economy: 13.92 MPG (17L/100km)!

03-27-2003, 05:53 AM	#16
Orbiter Scooby Specialist Member#: 66 Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, C Vehicle: 2002 Impreza WRX Britney Edition	Banman, how much was the course? how much track time? how much class instruction time?

03-27-2003, 12:17 PM	#17
banman Scooby Specialist Member#: 12408 Join Date: Nov 2001 Chapter/Region: VIC Location: Lotusland Vehicle: 2006 Legacy GT Silver	Orbiter, $400 - One day (about 5 hrs) classroom time, two days (8:30-5:00 or 5:30) track time, broken up into sessions of about 15 minutes each. Instructor to student ratio was good (1:2); about fifty or sixty cars total, so the group was usually broken up into two or three groups for on-track events. If you're at all familiar with cars, physics, and racing, the classroom session isn' t that useful (except for clarification about flags). The track time is what is really golden. Although I'm curious, since all the instructors are volunteers, where they manage to spend the course fees - how much could it be costing them to get the track for two days? $400x60 people = $24,000! Either it costs a fortune to get the track time or this is a nice fundraiser for SCCBC. Also - a couple of mouthbreathers among the students, but for the most part fellow students were mature and helpful. Just a caution that I was warned by a reputable source that one of their instructors has a bad track record of wrecking peoples' cars. I can PM you his name if you want, but he wasn't teaching at this session anyway. And I would highly recommend getting good brake pads and better fluid; brake fade was a problem with a lot of the cars out there.