Who's faster?? Auto WRX or MY01 Auto RS??

STi Boy · 03-31-2001, 11:14 PM

North Ursalia · 03-31-2001, 11:16 PM

<FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Well one has 227 HP by 5000rpms, the other has 165 by 5000rpms.... I think the choice is clear

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NA Impreza · 03-31-2001, 11:26 PM

i think it's pretty obvious too.....

ChosenWon · 03-31-2001, 11:55 PM

How or why would a person with 247 posts ask a question like this?

NickSTi · 04-01-2001, 12:21 AM

chosenwon:

that is why he is still a newbie.

nick - you mean... i cant race vipers and porsches? its only a couple more horses and we both have stick!

inpreza kid · 04-01-2001, 04:13 PM

for auto cars it doesn't take long for a turbo to kick in. i would imagine that the lag on the auto WRX isn't too bad.

STi Boy · 04-02-2001, 01:33 AM

no..i keep hearing that the lag on the auto turbo WRX is really bad so i want to know if the 2.5 rs is faster.

munkis · 04-02-2001, 01:53 AM

Lag or no lag, when the turbo kicks in, its no contest.

You also posted in the wrong forum, I dont know what this question has to do with dress up and style. IMO, this should be in General.

Jay McDade
Auto Tech--Lincoln/Mercury/Jaguar
www.hometown.aol.com/impreza25rs2000

Subie Gal · 04-02-2001, 08:00 AM

you guys are WRONG!!

the RS is gonna hand any auto WRX it's butt..

i drove the auto WRX... a few times... last week.. all i can say is well... IT SUCKS

the turbo lag is so poor that the RS would be miles away by the time the WRX got going...

it is really, truly that bad!!!

nope... in this one the RS wins hands down... i would never, ever recommend that anyone buy the auto WRX... you would be seriously disappointed!

j. www.subiegal.com

omahasubaru · 04-02-2001, 09:45 AM

I agree with subiegal, but let me elaborate.

I think that 0-60 or maybe even 0-100 mph a MY02 WRX sedan or wagon verses a MY98-01 RS 5 speed, would be interesting. I think the torque and on demand (always there) power of the RS would prevail, but if you compare the WRX 5speed an any RS, no way!

I offer to do a stoplight run with the auto wagon WRX at the dealership (Beardmore) that let us 'really drive' the WRX and he said no, I don't think the boss would like to see me racing the car down Saddle Creek (name of the road). I said the offer still stands anytime as I was emensly dissapointed in the Auto and unless they can get a 5 speed to test drive, I won't buy one. I need to test drive it first as I was disapointed in the auto. I like the feel of turning and the suspension of the WRX, and I have felt a 5 speed which was much better. I liked everything except the pull of the auto. I did get a chance to ride in a 5 speed WRX when the NJ rep was in town traing the dealers, but never got to drive it. The 5 speed felt nice, but the auto was week, feels like an old impreza 1.8L I test drove a while back.. gutless below 3k above nice, but still takes a little gas pedal work to get it to really kick down and go!

IMHO

Jon

sti2_5rs · 04-02-2001, 10:09 AM

but the question itself is MY01 Auto VS WRX AUTO, so which one will be faster if what subie gal said is correct?

8Complex · 04-02-2001, 10:12 AM

You guys are all wrong. Neither one would be faster then the other unless they each had drivers... as it is now they're just sitting still.

BigElm · 04-02-2001, 10:26 AM

Damn 8'
You REALLY must be bored....

Bob O · 04-02-2001, 10:29 AM

I agree completely regarding the lagginess of the auto WRX. It was horrible. You mash the peddle to the floor and then wait what seems like an eternity, and then it takes off, shoving you back in the seat. I guess it takes a few seconds to wake the gerbils. Supposedly in the stick it is far less noticable. It's nice when you can go for a test drive with a real car-guy type salesman. Full brake pedal to the floor stops from 70 are fun

. I'd still think the WRX's is faster than the RS, stick or auto (well duh, more power). Either way who buys these cars in an auto? It's not as bad as buying an automatic Porche Carrera (that should be an actual crime, with jail time and cannings), but still.

Bob

RacerinLSL · 04-02-2001, 10:31 AM

I can't believe that anyone that is normally close to correct(omahasubaru, SubieGal) would say the RS is quicker than the WRX, IN ANY SITUATION!! Come on people. I spent a good period of time driving an auto WRX, and there is still no comparison. Yeah, there's turbo lag, but GOD I can't take it anymore. I'm done posting on these rediculous threads. Is this an April Fools joke? You people kill me.

Chad

Subie Gal · 04-02-2001, 10:35 AM

wow.. you spent a good period of time driving the lame auto WRX? that's impressive considering it's only been out for a couple of weeks...

anyway.....

in an outright speed contest boys and girls.. the WRX will win as it EVENTUALLY comes up to it's potential HP...

but in a race/speed contest... from A to B - 1/4 mile even... the WRX just doesnt go... it took a GOOD 4-5 seconds to get the turbo to boost... no kidding.. and in that 4-5 seconds.. i'd be well on my way in my RS..

so now what's this joke about???

please... get your facts straight before you start a flame war....

j. "flame suit on" www.subiegal.com

8Complex · 04-02-2001, 10:47 AM

I have to admit to that as well... when I drove the stick WRX, I was very unimpressed by how long it took to get into boost... I can only imagine the auto version.

RacerinLSL · 04-02-2001, 10:47 AM

I'm not starting a flame war. You are the one saying there's no way I could have spent a good amount of time in the car. Have you ever driven a stock manufactured turbocharged car before? If you have, you wouldn't be so critical of the lag, b/c it's not that bad if you know how to drive it(not knocking your driving abilities

). How far do you wanna race? My salesman friend, driving an auto WRX wagon, raced me, driving my unmodified RS, and I got a one car length jump on him before he passed me. When he passed, I hadn't even hit 60 yet.
So what facts do I need to get straight?
I wasn't lucky enought to go to AZ for your adventure (as I am not a member of the SIPP

) but I have run the car through the mill, and I think you, no I know you are wrong.

Chad

subarurabbit · 04-02-2001, 10:57 AM

Hey,

What about the Buick GNX?

That was an auto...

Roger

Subie Gal · 04-02-2001, 11:05 AM

in comparison...
i've driven a Legacy GT-B - which only comes in an auto form... and the GT-B suffered NO.. zero turbo lag... an amazingly quick car..

the WRX... look at the posts from the SIPP WRX ride and drive... in general.. i am not the only one who's complaining of the lag... there are other accounts of the same issues

i AM totally knocking the auto WRX and you can knock my drivin abilities if you want..

i could care less as i dont know you and u dont know me... so it's another blah.. blah.. stupid internet arguement... i am not
going there...

PERHAPS i am confused?

Quote:

raced me, driving my unmodified RS, and I got a one car length jump on him before he passed me. When he passed, I hadn't even hit 60 yet.

sounds like an unmodified RS passed up a WRX before it even hit 60??

well that being said, i rest my case...

j.

RacerinLSL · 04-02-2001, 11:15 AM

You know what the point of that statement was. Of course a 2.5 liter is going to beat a 2.0 liter of the line with an auto especially.
Don't give me this "blah blah blah" crap. I simply stated my opinion and you, with your almighty Subaru knowledge, rip on me. I never said that no one was complaining of lag, but people are complaining about EVERYTING on the new car. Yeah, the car would be better with less lag, but that means a smaller turbo or a ball bearing turbo with means less top end power or more money. There are always trade offs. But that doesn't change the fact that in any road-going situation, the WRX will beat a 2.5RS. No argument needed.

Oh, and I wasn't ripping on your abilities, hence the

.

Chad
Chad

NickSTi · 04-02-2001, 11:15 AM

okay i am really confused here. I have driven/owned an auto 2000 RS and boy did that suck. Even turbo'd it still sucked but not as bad

here is my somewhat stretched view:
stock 00 RS 4EAT - sucked really bad. that puppy REALLY died on you in the accel.
t3/t4 RS 4EAT - huge improvement. it was not too laggy (saw boost ~3k) and if i could race against my non turbo self I would have left myself harder than a jilted lover.
now how can a 2.0L 227hp auto WRX with a smaller turbo be SO laggy that it would lose to an auto RS!?! if that is so damn that is the weirdest thing i ever seen.

Subie Gal · 04-02-2001, 11:18 AM

hey nick

have you driven it yet? go drive it...

you'll be surprised...

j.

omahasubaru · 04-02-2001, 11:33 AM

I challenge anyone out there with a stock 2002 WRX auto to do a 0-60 run against a stock MY98-01 5 speed.

If the WRX wins I'll shut my trap, but until someone has actually done this (prior post) doesn't specify auto or stick) then I'm skeptical.

It is obvious that an auto n/a 2.5 liter will be slower than an auto turbo 2.0 liter, but is the auto WRX much faster than a 5 speed pre '02 RS?

No flaming should exist until someone can prove the other wrong.

Please I love the turbo WRX and I love my RS, I'm just not willing to upgrade from my 5 speed RS to the new WRX auto as power doesn't seem much better.

I'm willing to be in the RS, although mine isn't stock, it isn't heavily tuned either.

Can someone prove my theroy?

I know the RS won't win in top speed or above 60, but I think at least until 50 mph the 5 speed RS pre '02 can beat the auto '02 WRX.

Please someone prove me wrong. I'd like to know the truth.

Jon

RAD · 04-02-2001, 11:40 AM

subarurabbit, from what I've seen, the '87 GNX was pretty quick, it did 0-60 in 5.5secs, and if you ask me, that's fast for a heavy car. What helps w/that quick acceleration has to be the torque, that sucker had 360ft-lbs of it! That's a car I'd like to restore, should be fun!

03-31-2001, 11:14 PM	#1
STi Boy Scooby Specialist Member#: 3401 Join Date: Jan 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Holbrook,MA Vehicle: 2006 Legacy GT LTD Atlantic Blue	Who's faster?? Auto WRX or MY01 Auto RS?? Who's faster?? Auto WRX or MY01 Auto RS??

04-02-2001, 10:47 AM	#18
RacerinLSL Scooby Specialist Member#: 1174 Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: St. Louie Vehicle: 2003 Nissan 350Z Silver	I'm not starting a flame war. You are the one saying there's no way I could have spent a good amount of time in the car. Have you ever driven a stock manufactured turbocharged car before? If you have, you wouldn't be so critical of the lag, b/c it's not that bad if you know how to drive it(not knocking your driving abilities). How far do you wanna race? My salesman friend, driving an auto WRX wagon, raced me, driving my unmodified RS, and I got a one car length jump on him before he passed me. When he passed, I hadn't even hit 60 yet. So what facts do I need to get straight? I wasn't lucky enought to go to AZ for your adventure (as I am not a member of the SIPP) but I have run the car through the mill, and I think you, no I know you are wrong. Chad

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03-31-2001, 11:16 PM	#2
North Ursalia Miss You Mom Oct 1940 - Feb 2008 Super Moderator Member#: 809 Join Date: Jan 2000 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: NH, Land Of Many Trees Vehicle: 2000 2.5 RS, 96 OBS, 95 Impreza L, 03 TS	<FONT face="Comic Sans MS">Well one has 227 HP by 5000rpms, the other has 165 by 5000rpms.... I think the choice is clear Brian AIM: NUrsalia ICQ: 84483950 http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/northu...reza/index.htm Conjunction Junction, what's your function? </FONT f>

03-31-2001, 11:26 PM	#3
NA Impreza Scooby Newbie Member#: 4267 Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Vancouver, B.C., Canada Vehicle: 1999 rs white	i think it's pretty obvious too.....

03-31-2001, 11:55 PM	#4
ChosenWon Scooby Specialist Member#: 2236 Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Red Sox Nation w/ y2k4door Vehicle: 2001 Impreza RS silver/rally dirt brown	How or why would a person with 247 posts ask a question like this?

04-01-2001, 12:21 AM	#5
NickSTi Scooby Specialist Member#: 626 Join Date: Dec 1999 Location: Miami FL Vehicle: 2001 Impreza 2.5 RS Black Diamond Pearl	chosenwon: that is why he is still a newbie. nick - you mean... i cant race vipers and porsches? its only a couple more horses and we both have stick!

04-01-2001, 04:13 PM	#6
inpreza kid Scooby Specialist Member#: 3334 Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Calgary, Alberta, Canada	for auto cars it doesn't take long for a turbo to kick in. i would imagine that the lag on the auto WRX isn't too bad.

04-02-2001, 01:33 AM	#7
STi Boy Scooby Specialist Member#: 3401 Join Date: Jan 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Holbrook,MA Vehicle: 2006 Legacy GT LTD Atlantic Blue	no..i keep hearing that the lag on the auto turbo WRX is really bad so i want to know if the 2.5 rs is faster.

04-02-2001, 01:53 AM	#8
munkis Scooby Guru Member#: 1847 Join Date: Jul 2000 Chapter/Region: Tri-State Location: brokenmotorsports.com Vehicle: Team Broken: V6 GF www.occsubarumeet.com	Lag or no lag, when the turbo kicks in, its no contest. You also posted in the wrong forum, I dont know what this question has to do with dress up and style. IMO, this should be in General. Jay McDade Auto Tech--Lincoln/Mercury/Jaguar www.hometown.aol.com/impreza25rs2000

04-02-2001, 08:00 AM	#9
Subie Gal GC84Ever Super Moderator Member#: 301 Join Date: Sep 1999 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: WA Vehicle: 2001 2.5 RS 02 WRX Wagon Rally Car	you guys are WRONG!! the RS is gonna hand any auto WRX it's butt.. i drove the auto WRX... a few times... last week.. all i can say is well... IT SUCKS the turbo lag is so poor that the RS would be miles away by the time the WRX got going... it is really, truly that bad!!! nope... in this one the RS wins hands down... i would never, ever recommend that anyone buy the auto WRX... you would be seriously disappointed! j. www.subiegal.com

04-02-2001, 09:45 AM	#10
omahasubaru Scooby Guru Member#: 1594 Join Date: Jun 2000 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Gretna, NE	I agree with subiegal, but let me elaborate. I think that 0-60 or maybe even 0-100 mph a MY02 WRX sedan or wagon verses a MY98-01 RS 5 speed, would be interesting. I think the torque and on demand (always there) power of the RS would prevail, but if you compare the WRX 5speed an any RS, no way! I offer to do a stoplight run with the auto wagon WRX at the dealership (Beardmore) that let us 'really drive' the WRX and he said no, I don't think the boss would like to see me racing the car down Saddle Creek (name of the road). I said the offer still stands anytime as I was emensly dissapointed in the Auto and unless they can get a 5 speed to test drive, I won't buy one. I need to test drive it first as I was disapointed in the auto. I like the feel of turning and the suspension of the WRX, and I have felt a 5 speed which was much better. I liked everything except the pull of the auto. I did get a chance to ride in a 5 speed WRX when the NJ rep was in town traing the dealers, but never got to drive it. The 5 speed felt nice, but the auto was week, feels like an old impreza 1.8L I test drove a while back.. gutless below 3k above nice, but still takes a little gas pedal work to get it to really kick down and go! IMHO Jon

04-02-2001, 10:09 AM	#11
sti2_5rs Scooby Specialist Member#: 1578 Join Date: Jun 2000 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Vehicle: 2000 Impreza 2.5RS Silver	but the question itself is MY01 Auto VS WRX AUTO, so which one will be faster if what subie gal said is correct?

04-02-2001, 10:12 AM	#12
8Complex Moderator Member#: 922 Join Date: Feb 2000 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Schaumburg, IL Vehicle: 2000 Impreza 2.5RS Silver	You guys are all wrong. Neither one would be faster then the other unless they each had drivers... as it is now they're just sitting still.

04-02-2001, 10:26 AM	#13
BigElm Always under your radar! Moderator Member#: 1568 Join Date: May 2000 Location: Hawtlanta!!!	Damn 8' You REALLY must be bored....

04-02-2001, 10:29 AM	#14
Bob O Scooby Specialist Member#: 1502 Join Date: May 2000 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Felton, PA, USA Vehicle: 2000 2.5RS & SV1kS BRP	I agree completely regarding the lagginess of the auto WRX. It was horrible. You mash the peddle to the floor and then wait what seems like an eternity, and then it takes off, shoving you back in the seat. I guess it takes a few seconds to wake the gerbils. Supposedly in the stick it is far less noticable. It's nice when you can go for a test drive with a real car-guy type salesman. Full brake pedal to the floor stops from 70 are fun . I'd still think the WRX's is faster than the RS, stick or auto (well duh, more power). Either way who buys these cars in an auto? It's not as bad as buying an automatic Porche Carrera (that should be an actual crime, with jail time and cannings), but still. Bob

04-02-2001, 10:31 AM	#15
RacerinLSL Scooby Specialist Member#: 1174 Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: St. Louie Vehicle: 2003 Nissan 350Z Silver	I can't believe that anyone that is normally close to correct(omahasubaru, SubieGal) would say the RS is quicker than the WRX, IN ANY SITUATION!! Come on people. I spent a good period of time driving an auto WRX, and there is still no comparison. Yeah, there's turbo lag, but GOD I can't take it anymore. I'm done posting on these rediculous threads. Is this an April Fools joke? You people kill me. Chad

04-02-2001, 10:35 AM	#16
Subie Gal GC84Ever Super Moderator Member#: 301 Join Date: Sep 1999 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: WA Vehicle: 2001 2.5 RS 02 WRX Wagon Rally Car	wow.. you spent a good period of time driving the lame auto WRX? that's impressive considering it's only been out for a couple of weeks... anyway..... in an outright speed contest boys and girls.. the WRX will win as it EVENTUALLY comes up to it's potential HP... but in a race/speed contest... from A to B - 1/4 mile even... the WRX just doesnt go... it took a GOOD 4-5 seconds to get the turbo to boost... no kidding.. and in that 4-5 seconds.. i'd be well on my way in my RS.. so now what's this joke about??? please... get your facts straight before you start a flame war.... j. "flame suit on" www.subiegal.com

04-02-2001, 10:57 AM	#19
subarurabbit Scooby Guru Member#: 4083 Join Date: Feb 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Beverly, Ma Vehicle: 1997 Legacy Outback green	Hey, What about the Buick GNX? That was an auto... Roger

04-02-2001, 11:15 AM	#21
RacerinLSL Scooby Specialist Member#: 1174 Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: St. Louie Vehicle: 2003 Nissan 350Z Silver	You know what the point of that statement was. Of course a 2.5 liter is going to beat a 2.0 liter of the line with an auto especially. Don't give me this "blah blah blah" crap. I simply stated my opinion and you, with your almighty Subaru knowledge, rip on me. I never said that no one was complaining of lag, but people are complaining about EVERYTING on the new car. Yeah, the car would be better with less lag, but that means a smaller turbo or a ball bearing turbo with means less top end power or more money. There are always trade offs. But that doesn't change the fact that in any road-going situation, the WRX will beat a 2.5RS. No argument needed. Oh, and I wasn't ripping on your abilities, hence the . Chad Chad

04-02-2001, 11:18 AM	#23
Subie Gal GC84Ever Super Moderator Member#: 301 Join Date: Sep 1999 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: WA Vehicle: 2001 2.5 RS 02 WRX Wagon Rally Car	hey nick have you driven it yet? go drive it... you'll be surprised... j.

04-02-2001, 11:33 AM	#24
omahasubaru Scooby Guru Member#: 1594 Join Date: Jun 2000 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Gretna, NE	I challenge anyone out there with a stock 2002 WRX auto to do a 0-60 run against a stock MY98-01 5 speed. If the WRX wins I'll shut my trap, but until someone has actually done this (prior post) doesn't specify auto or stick) then I'm skeptical. It is obvious that an auto n/a 2.5 liter will be slower than an auto turbo 2.0 liter, but is the auto WRX much faster than a 5 speed pre '02 RS? No flaming should exist until someone can prove the other wrong. Please I love the turbo WRX and I love my RS, I'm just not willing to upgrade from my 5 speed RS to the new WRX auto as power doesn't seem much better. I'm willing to be in the RS, although mine isn't stock, it isn't heavily tuned either. Can someone prove my theroy? I know the RS won't win in top speed or above 60, but I think at least until 50 mph the 5 speed RS pre '02 can beat the auto '02 WRX. Please someone prove me wrong. I'd like to know the truth. Jon

04-02-2001, 11:40 AM	#25
RAD Scooby Newbie Member#: 2521 Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada	subarurabbit, from what I've seen, the '87 GNX was pretty quick, it did 0-60 in 5.5secs, and if you ask me, that's fast for a heavy car. What helps w/that quick acceleration has to be the torque, that sucker had 360ft-lbs of it! That's a car I'd like to restore, should be fun!