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Old 04-01-2003, 03:41 PM   #1
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Could someone explain the benefits both above mentioned air filters??? Do either or both cause CELs on newer Subbies??? Has anyone had problems w/ Amsoil Filters foam degenerating?

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Old 04-01-2003, 04:23 PM   #2
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K&N pros:
-flows better than stock
-available in a cone filter if you need it

K&N cons:
-You have to clean and oil it way more often
-It actually filters less
-Price
-Have to clean w/ their cleaner and then oil it...

Amsoil Pros:
-You have to clean and oil it less often
-It actually filters more (while flowing as well as K&N)
-Price
-Can clean w/ soap and water, then oil it...
Amsoil cons:
-they don't make a cone filter if you need it

there you have it...
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Old 04-01-2003, 10:45 PM   #3
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The Amsoil air filter is also more quiet. I sometimes feel regret for not trying a K&N, but it just lets in too much dirt.
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Old 04-02-2003, 10:40 AM   #4
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K&N = cotton gauze, "standard" for aftermarket replacement filter
Amsoil = foam, better flowing than cotton gauze BUT doesn't filter as well if not oiled correctly.. amsoil filter oil is good stuff (recommended on any foam filter) but then again, any foam filter oil will work better than none.
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Old 04-02-2003, 12:18 PM   #5
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I have a K & N on my TS and it makes great sounds!! modest power changes. haven't tried the AMSoil but not really that tempted to.
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Old 04-02-2003, 10:54 PM   #6
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I have the Amsoil filter and I use the K&N cleaner and recharger on it and it works well. So far since getting the Amsoil with the cai, I only cleaned it twice and have had no problems at all!
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Old 04-03-2003, 12:16 AM   #7
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Remember, anything having to do with Amsoil is like dealing with religious fanatics. You never get a straight story and most of the supporters profit from its sale.
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Old 04-03-2003, 01:06 AM   #8
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Remember, anything having to do with Amsoil is like dealing with religious fanatics. You never get a straight story and most of the supporters profit from its sale.
Hahaha... 'Quick, be quiet, the Amsoil's Witnesses are coming up the walk!'
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Old 04-03-2003, 12:47 PM   #9
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Old 04-03-2003, 02:03 PM   #10
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Remember, anything having to do with Amsoil is like dealing with religious fanatics. You never get a straight story and most of the supporters profit from its sale.
why do you say that... doesn't help me at all... the product is better and cheaper... what's not to like... ahh... you must have a k&n and don't want to feel bad...
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Old 04-03-2003, 10:27 PM   #11
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Two of my cars have a fram filter, one has a wix, one has a K&N panel and the other I cant remember.

I say it because it is true. Anytime a discussion involves Amsoil products I always get the same feeling, like when you watch those wild religious shows when the person slaps someone on the head to heal them.

Did I say anything bad about the amsoil items? NO. You are just trying to be a jerk. I was trying to warn the person not to follow the suggestions he would get.

Many of us are tired of fighting with the Amsoil followers, so we dont post and the unknowing user will assume your comments are sincere.
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Old 04-04-2003, 08:10 AM   #12
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me being a jerk... you are saying I am lying... how do you come off like a saint there...

I'm not... what makes you think that anything is wrong w/ amsoil filters... I don't see a penny for saying this...

K&N work, no doubt about it... I have one of each and the Amsoil is less maintenance... It's true, why can't you accept it? you just admited you don't have one... That just validates my point...

and yes you did say amsoil is not good w/ comments like this...
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Many of us are tired of fighting with the Amsoil followers, so we dont post and the unknowing user will assume your comments are sincere.
you just said that I am lying, therefore implying that amsoil is not a good product... sounds more like are extremely anti amsoil... promoting any product but them... did they fire you, abuse you? what was it?!

so unless you have some valid reason my comments are unsincere, please do say I am lying!!!
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Old 04-04-2003, 10:07 AM   #13
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I would also like to say that the quality of the Amsoil filter is superb. It's thick, and once it's oiled it will catch 99% dirt (if not 100%). I checked my throttle body just 2 years after owning the Amsoil filter and noticed that there was hardly any sign of dirt. I like the protection with "better than stock" flow. That's all I care.
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Amsoil was cheaper when I bought the CAI and filter compared to the K&N one. I would tell people its good because I use it and I wouldn't tell people not to get the K&N because I don't use it. They have good products and I don't doubt it. I'm not being paid by anyone when I make a comment about a product if someone asks about it. I just tell them what I know.

I felt the need to reply to this cause your msg was posted right after mine. I read some of your posts on other forums, and you seem to know alot, technically, about cars and subies in general, but you can't be coming off like most people don't know anything else, just because they use a certain type of product.

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Old 04-04-2003, 12:49 PM   #15
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I'm very pleasee with the quality or the Amsoil filter products... I'm still not sold on their oils though. Ciper is right though, Amsoil salesmen are a bit fanatical.
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Old 04-04-2003, 01:57 PM   #16
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I dont want to comment any more. All I say is not to give too much weight to the suggestions you read.
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Old 04-04-2003, 02:02 PM   #17
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Are there some links any of you can provide that shows actual test results from K&N and Amsoil air filters? I posted a couple below but I'm not sure if they are objective sites.

Test 1

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Old 04-04-2003, 02:16 PM   #18
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Thanks for the informative data; that is exactly what, quantifiable data, I was looking for!!!

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Old 04-04-2003, 02:35 PM   #19
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Interesting tests...
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Old 04-04-2003, 02:40 PM   #20
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Look, here's the deal. Foam will outperform cotton gauze when oiled correctly. The Amsoil filters are nothing to write home about, they are a simple 2 stage filter, same as Uni, etc. Amsoil's strength is the high tack filter oil. All foam filter oil (which you can pick up at your local motorcycle shop) has a higher tack than cotton gauze oil. Amsoils stuff is just REALLY viscous and REALLY tacky.
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Old 04-04-2003, 06:23 PM   #21
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Assuming thet performance and filtering are equal, the Amsoil filter is still almost half the price of a K&N filter. That alone is a reason to buy one. We are all trying to do the same thing, improve the performance of our cars, and some people just don't have the big dollars to spend, so you look for cheaper options.

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Old 04-19-2003, 03:06 AM   #22
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hmmm

i use an amsoil airfilter...seems fine..ive heard that foam filters can degrade and get ingested into motor...this sounds bad...maybe this only applies to turbo cars...anyone else hear about this theory/prob with foam filters?
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