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Old 04-05-2003, 12:27 AM   #1
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Default Sell my 01 Type R for a sti?????

i am very tempted to do just that. i own a yellow 01 integra type R with 18000 miles on it. it runs a 14 flat with a best time of 13.7.

i have always liked the wrx but always wanted it to be better. well now that the sti is on its way i am very tempted to get rid of the R for the sti.

i have looked at the evo 8 and was not impresed at all. quality of the build motor size no cursie controll cant adjust the diff's.

but every time i drive a wrx i love the felling of boost and the felling of awd and the quality of the car all around

well if you own a type r and are selling it for a sti please tell me why. or if you have a opioin about this please feal free to post your comments.

heres a pic of my R that was taken about a year ago.

http://www.texasimports.net/graphix/...2/DSC00263.gif
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Old 04-05-2003, 12:41 AM   #2
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man what a bummer having to get rid of the R but the sti will be much faster but as you know a totally different beast were in TX are you? If you are serious bout getting into a subaru and possibly keeping the R or whatever might I suggest a used WRX and mod it to your hearts content? LSDs ect.ect.ect. there will be and already are many at resonable prices as well as barely used performance stuff on the market with the EVO and STI. In Austin Id give you some seat time for some in the R
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Old 04-05-2003, 01:06 AM   #3
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i austin texas as well. i love the r and dont have to get rid of it. but something about awd turbo and the looks of the car have me more then intrested.

as much as would love to have 2 cars i just cant afford it all. (insurance is a pain in the rear) i got a yellow car and with that comes many unfair tickets.

i live in austin texas aswell. i go to fudds at anderson lane most every wensday night. hardley ever go to chillies at 183 and 1-35 caus of all the high schoolers and ricers there. i like the crowd better at fudds.

so what all do you have done to your wrx?

id say where i was located but i dont want to adverstise. (never know whos reading this) and having a high rate of theft on the R's does not help much.

lmk or give me your e-mail or something.
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Old 04-05-2003, 01:32 AM   #4
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The STi is an affordable supercar. If it's within your budget, why not? Or you can get a used WRX like MP5 said and mod it and have a lot of money left over or get less in debt. The good thing about WRXs is it's very easy and pretty cost-effective to make much much better, do a search and you'll see what I mean.

I know what you mean about turbo power. I had an E30 M3 which I really loved, but I had to rev the hell out of it to make it go which got tiresome. Your car's quicker than my M3 was but it's still the same thing. No substitute for torque.

BTW, expect more tickets if you get the STi for obvious reasons!
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Old 04-05-2003, 02:19 AM   #5
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yeay a 9000 red line with vtec kicking in at 5700.

i used to own a mr2 turbo that did 12.7 love the turbo power on that car but hated the matinence that car was a money pit.

hummmm maybe ill look at the wrx pre owned. there around 15 to 16 now right?

i dunno i guess ill research this a bit more.

i raced a modded wrx one time new intercooler boosting 18 (what he said) he said he had cams and down pipe uppipe and catback. and intake. this was on a 35 roll not the best for a wrx and i pulled him by a half a car. now stock or slightly modded wrx my r pulls about a car or 2. depends if they know how to drive it. ie brake boost and what not.

could you give me a few great posts to start reading about if it would not be to much troble
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Old 04-05-2003, 03:52 AM   #6
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All around, I'd say the STi pretty easily smokes the ITR. I'm a former Integra owner, albeit a weeny '94 RS hatchback, but I still was well-informed about the ITR from my days on Honda-Acura.net and All Things Integra before that. (I feel old, now. )

The ITR was about the best FWD car ever invented, in my opinion, but... the STi's just the better car. But then again, maybe wait until the RSX Type-R comes out (if Honda/Acura ever decides to actually do that ), and see which one you like better. The STi will still be the undisputed power champ, probably handling too, but it might not suit you. Who knows?

300hp and all that equal torque sounds nice, but I can also easily side with those who say it might be too much. If I had the chance to test drive the STi and the RSX-R, and had the money to buy either, I'd certainly give both their due chance.

I'd likely still end up with the STi, but that's just me.

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Old 04-05-2003, 04:28 AM   #7
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Nice ET!!.. didn't know ITR could run in the 14, 13's (stock)...
thought they were 15s cars???

If I were you... I would actually wait another year... selling your
only after one year or so will result in heavy depreciation...
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Old 04-05-2003, 05:06 AM   #8
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its not stock. stock they do a 14.7 with a good driver. i have a few good mods done to it. and i know how to drive the car.

i have had the car for 2 years and a month. i would not lose anything if i sold it i would probely make 1 or 2 grand plus selling back the 7 year warrient would net some more cash. and if i wanted to part it out i would make at least 2 grand from that.

after reading about the mods to a wrx looks like the turbo xs stage 4 is the best route but thats 4 grand plus top mount with is another grand. but yes it still is cheaper then the sti. but with power to a stock car always comes problems.

about a year ago i helped my dad find a kick ass audi s4. 6 spd pearl white (the rare $4000 optional paint job) and the blue alcantara interior with leather. but her never drives that damn thing. we got it with 300 miles on it a year ago for 34350. 10 grand of msrp.

one $595 chip will add 60hp and 110 trq. and be able to get 13.1 to 13.0 with just a chip.

hes been thinking about selling it since he never driver the bloody thing. it only has 3300 miles on it.

maybe ill try to convince him to get rid of it to me. hummmmmmmmmm i could get that thing into the mid 12's for around $2500.

well as you can see i am looking at a few options at this present time.
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Old 04-05-2003, 05:10 AM   #9
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it wont let me edit.

well the reason i bought my car was for the handeling. witch it does flawlessley. that lsd in the car and the balance of the car is top notch. i can even drift the car if i push it hard enough and have total controll of it. its not that i hate my R i love it. but i think it is time to move on. i cant do anything else to my car with out getting a head package. and that alone costs $3000 and would only net 15 hp after lots of tuning. and for that kind of hp its not worth the cost.
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Old 04-05-2003, 08:59 AM   #10
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after reading about the mods to a wrx looks like the turbo xs stage 4 is the best route but thats 4 grand plus top mount with is another grand. but yes it still is cheaper then the sti. but with power to a stock car always comes problems.
You would never get a WRX to STi preformance levels for the price difference. The Brembos alone would cost about $2,000. Probably need $2,000 in power mods to hang with the STi in a straight line. And then you still wouldn't have the better suspension, diferent front end gemoetry, 6-speed (that's around $5,000), DCCD, or other goodies.

If you try to turn a base level WRX into an STi you'll probably end up with a $40,000 Subaru with no trade in value
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Old 04-05-2003, 10:13 AM   #11
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You would never get a WRX to STi preformance levels for the price difference. The Brembos alone would cost about $2,000. Probably need $2,000 in power mods to hang with the STi in a straight line. And then you still wouldn't have the better suspension, diferent front end gemoetry, 6-speed (that's around $5,000), DCCD, or other goodies.

If you try to turn a base level WRX into an STi you'll probably end up with a $40,000 Subaru with no trade in value
There is alot of truth to that cornpicker but lets just assume someone is non-Alfredesq and just a car lover wanting a fast/reliable/affordable car. You would be an idoit to get a new 24K wrx and try and put the Sti treatment to it, so my little scenerio is this:
used wrx ..........................................15-16K
TXS stage IV UTEC...........................~3K(put it together myself even have a vf34,pulley, hoses, gauges for that price)
Sti type RA spec C suspension............700 (takeoffs Gruppe-s)
rotas/ tires..........................................~1K
RSB/SS...............................................2 00
Stoptechs......................................... ..<1.5K (kills the brembos)
Sti 5MT gears.....................................1.25K (lets face it 5K plus for a six speed isnt worth it- If your worried bout breakage Get these or wait till the Stis slide off the road/ Prices on these will go down and besides the EVO guys arnt hurting without AYC/ACD)

So and I done this by the way cept for the Stoptechs and 5MT gears hence the average market price on those.

Sti Killer ................................~23-24K or bout the price of a new WRX
But hey we can argue that a brand new stock STI is worth the price of admisssion too at only 32K (who knows bout markups ect.ect.) you get a fresh car/ 2.5L/DCCD 6MT from day one without turning wrenches-- I play it safe and act like there is no warrenty on subies- cause theres really not
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You got a collector's car on your hands, I wouldent dump it for an STi.
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You got a collector's car on your hands, I wouldent dump it for an STi.
The Stis not?
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Old 04-05-2003, 12:15 PM   #14
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Your Integra is a remarkable piece of work, I would totally miss it, don't get rid of it, look on the bright side, if you still want an sti, its not leaving anytime soon, it just got here, you have plenty of time to make the extra loot for a second car. I know what you mean by handling, I take out my lil bro's yellow R all the time, he's in florida for a whole year, training in aviation electronics for "The Few The Proud" MARINES! I take his car out once maybe twice a month, and let me tell you, I would definitely not get rid of it.
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The Stis not?
I would say the Type R is more so of a collectors car. There were roughly only 5000 produced in the 4 years it was with us in the U.S. That would be one production year for the STi. Also the Type R's received their own distinctive numbering which shows that is truly a limited production run.

I am selling my R for the STi only for the following reasons: It has an extremely high resale value, insurance is killer(i know it will be on the STi too but not as much as the R), total attraction to theives, since most of its parts are interchangable with many platforms in the Honda family and lastly cause I am just plain bored with it. Not to mention the part of getting an STi in place of it.

If your R is in mint condition with low miles and is not a daily driver then it may reach collector car status, but if used and abused like any Type R SHOULD be, it will not be worth much in the end. Of course there is the factor of losing the pure enjoyment of driving the car but I am sure one can get over that very quickly everytime they stepped foot in their STi. If I could afford to keep the R and pick up an STi there is no doubt in my mind that I would, but unfortunately this is not the case.

Good luck with whatever you may do, Im sure you will be happy regardless which path you take.
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6-speed STi gearbox = $8300 + shipping

http://www.mauromotorsports.com/stico6tr.html

this site is good for WRX parts
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6-speed STi gearbox = $8300 + shipping

http://www.mauromotorsports.com/stico6tr.html

this site is good for WRX parts
Ugghh some of their prices are OK but thats savage rape
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6-speed STi gearbox = $8300 + shipping

http://www.mauromotorsports.com/stico6tr.html

this site is good for WRX parts
Thats a rip-off rate.

Go to RalliSpec and have your choice of 6 speed in three different flavors including with DCCD for only $7K.

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I second the Rallispec vote. They're awesome. (Timely Email responses from Dave too, which is totally unheard of with some other vendors...)


When it comes to the modded WRX vs. STi argument, yes a nice used WRX can easily be made to be an "STi killer" in the numbers, but with what it'll take to make a WRX equal an STi, let alone beat it, I'd rather just put a sizeable downpayment on an STi, make my monthly dues, and have a car with all that power PLUS a warrantee.

(Not to mention that a modded STi will eat nearly any modded WRX for lunch...)

Thievery I think will be a problem with the STi, too. Hondas have a higher theft rate, and likely always will, but... hey, if you're not in it for the flashy stuff, swap the STi rear wing (or entire trunk if you have to, and you might because of mounting spots) with a standard WRX one, take off all the badges, and you'll have yourself a sleeper. I mean the brakes are noticeable, but those looking to steal cars look for "giveaways" like signage and spoilers first, IMO...

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yeay i dont think i would go pre owned wrx.

another reason i am thinking of getting awd turbo is that i am probley moving to fla. ft laurdale pretty soon. with all the salt and the rain down there. i would not want to ruin my type r.

arghhhhhhh if the type r sucked this would be easy but it does not.

if my dad wants to get ride of his s4 i would be stipud not to jump at that. who know he might just give me the s4.

its great talking to all of you. about this
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and where did you get the txs iv for 3 grand? how much whould the tmic from them go for to?
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Well .. I've had both a '98 Integra Type R and an Audi S4 .. so I can give you the full perspective ...

I loved the Integra Type R and have many times considered getting another one .. mine was totalled while parked ... yeah I wasn't even near it ... imagine that

I had full steel Japanese front end with factory HID's ... Jun Cams and flywheel ... Sparco carbon seats ... etc.

Man it was great ... I parted it out and sold the wreck .. with the insurance money I actually made a profit of several $K! ... I had actually bought the car UNDER MSRP in Vermont ... this is part of the reason I can't bring myself to buy another one ... I paid under MSRP for a new one .. I don't want to pay these inflated prices for used ones.

anyway .. great handling .. sounds great .. just all around goodness ...

The STI will be a better car. How do I know? ... well I have also had an Evo IV and an STI II ... yes .. paint me lucky .. anyhow .. the level of excitement and pleasure is simply incomparable ... All the other pieces are equal or better than the Type R .. but then add AWD and another 100HP ... and all the other good stuff and huge potential

The S4 is a lumbering barge by comparison .. you'll spin the clutch if you try to launch it .. it handles like a pig ... sure you can get some decent power these days ... but after you upgrade the clutch you'll probably shatter 1st gear ... 4000lbs doesn't move easy. ... you would spend another $20K to get anywhere close to the performance level of an STI .. and stock-for-stock your type R would run circles around it at any track

I got rid of the S4 barge pretty quick .. and it would take a pretty exceptional Audi to get me back into their camp

Now if you just want luxury it's a different story .. I've considered the A8/S8 for my cruiser ... but even the RS6 and RS4 have been declared a bit soft by the press.

BTW. I used to live in Dallas .. I love Texas ... sure beats Boston ...
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Old 04-05-2003, 11:34 PM   #23
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yeay the s4 is a hog. **** maybe ill look at turboing my type r. heheheheh. but it would not really be a type r anymore. i would have do change then entire internals of the block. hummmmmmmm well i have lots of time to think this through.

hay at least a found a kick ass club with lots of cool people. not something i can say about clubsi.com. honda-tech.com is good but if you say one thing that is parthical wrong tell flame you till you die.
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Old 04-06-2003, 01:57 AM   #24
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It seems like the Type-R and the Si as well, have really exessive insurance rates simply because of the insane theft rate... I remember one of the members here who had a Type-R that kept getting stolen and just got fed up and got a WRX
No doubt, the Type-R is still an awesome car, despite the ownership downsides
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well i have been looking into turboing my type r and have found some intresting info about it so far.

all of the sudden i like my type r all the better now.
i would only have to spend around 5 to 6 grand to get it running 350 whp daily with no worries.

ohh check out this video

http://www.hatzer.at/videovault/sonstiges/turbo-r2.mpg
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