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Old 04-06-2003, 11:22 AM   #1
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Hey guys,
This is my first time posting here.
I am a newbie with the Legacy.
I was wondering what your thoughts
are on a '98 GT, it has 80,000 miles
on it. Is there anything that I should
look out for? What should I expect to
pay? I checked out KBB, they said under
10,000. Looking to modify it.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Nick
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Old 04-06-2003, 01:10 PM   #2
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Could be a nice car. I know, at least where I live, all the Subarus that are for sale have tons of miles on them. This doesn't have to be a bad thing. I bought my '98 with 99k on it If the car was well maintained, mileage should not be a problem. KBB is a pretty good source for pricing, I don't think I could really give you any other advice on pricing.

As far as modifying the car, parts are available, but of course they aren't as easy to find as impreza stuff. If you really want power, go for a turbo

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...ighlight=turbo
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Old 04-06-2003, 02:42 PM   #3
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yeah nice car.
but there again, ther isn't much that you can do to them.
and yeah if you want grunt get the turbo, manual.
i know from experience that there isn't too much that you can do to mod the twin turbo one, with out spending $$$$$$$
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Old 04-06-2003, 02:54 PM   #4
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Ya, thanx.
What I want to do with the car
is going to be more dirt road
type stuff. I would like to get
the Kumho ECSTA R700 for
tires. I like the prodrive wheels.
Trying to find if they will be able
to fit those tires. Also stiffer suspension,
upgraded clutch etc. Exhaust and turbo also.
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Old 04-06-2003, 03:47 PM   #5
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wow,
I read the link on turbo.
theres a lot I need to learn lol.
sounds like I'll need a lot
to run a turbo. Advice appreciated
on what to get.

Thanks,
Nick
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Old 04-06-2003, 04:40 PM   #6
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Quote:
Originally posted by 413rally
Hey guys,
This is my first time posting here.
I am a newbie with the Legacy.
I was wondering what your thoughts
are on a '98 GT, it has 80,000 miles
on it. Is there anything that I should
look out for? What should I expect to
pay? I checked out KBB, they said under
10,000. Looking to modify it.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Nick
I got my 1998 2.5GT almost a year ago and love it it had only 49,000 KM or 30449 miles Runs great and was well looked after. Now I did have a problem with the head gaskets, this is common on these cars. My advice would be to check to see if it had head gasket work done on it or if there was service work done in relation to overheating complaints.

Get it checked by a good subie mech and have them pressure test it and get the coolent sniffed. This will help you a lot. If it did get the head gaskets done check to see if they used the new metal ones that so far seem to have sovled the overheating problem.

Just make sure all the recall work is done. (I can get you a list if you want)

I wouldn't trade this car unless it was for a 2005+ Legacy (not here yet

Great car with lots of potential if you do it right, get the suspension work done first (great tires are a very good place to start). after that you can start adding power. I wouldn't turbo until you get the engine working great to handle the stress ie: head gaskets

Most stuff that fits the 2.5RS will fit the legacy as well.

PS: any warrenty left?
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Old 04-06-2003, 06:05 PM   #7
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Thanx,
Ya could you give me the recall list, please.
I'll check the head gaskets. I'll have everything
checked out. Any advice for parts, like everything
lol. How are the stock brakes, I'm probably going
to get new brakes. Anybody know of sites where
I can learn everything about the car? What companies
do you all recommend for performance parts?
Help appreciated. I'm sure I'll think of a lot more
to ask THANX.

Peace,
Nick
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Old 04-06-2003, 06:17 PM   #8
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Quote:
Originally posted by 413rally
Thanx,
Ya could you give me the recall list, please.
I'll check the head gaskets. I'll have everything
checked out. Any advice for parts, like everything
lol. How are the stock brakes, I'm probably going
to get new brakes. Anybody know of sites where
I can learn everything about the car? What companies
do you all recommend for performance parts?
Help appreciated. I'm sure I'll think of a lot more
to ask THANX.

Peace,
Nick
The brakes are not that bad at all...I have seen a lot worse on other cars.


Here's the list I promised...but there are somethings that I don't see on there like the recall on the alternator and master brake cylinder. If I remember more I'll tell you. As for sites to learn about the car, here is a very good start. You might want to check out www.scoobymods.com as well.

Bulletins for 1998 Subaru Legacy GT Sedan (AWD) F4-2.5L DOHC MFI

Safety Recalls
TSB Number Issue Date TSB Title WWE-88R JAN 02 Recall - Front Spring Guard Update

Service Bulletins
TSB Number Issue Date TSB Title 17-06-01 NOV 01 Seat Belt Latch - Slides to The Lower Seat Belt Anchor
04-09-01 AUG 01 Steering - Knocking/Rattling Noises
17-05-01 MAY 01 Air Bag System - On/Off Switch Installation Requirements
18-63-00 AUG 00 Engine Controls - Service Manual Corrections
16-63-99R AUG 00 A/T - 4EAT Remanufactured Transaxle Available
11-61-00 JUN 00 State Emissions Test - Fuel Filler Cap Test Procedure
18-57-00 JAN 00 Service Manual - Updates/Corrections
03-48-99 JUL 99 M/T - Pops Out Of First Gear While Driving
16-63-99 APR 99 A/T - 4EAT Remanufactured Transaxle Program
11-55-99 MAR 99 OBD System Check During State Emission Test
11-54-99 MAR 99 OBDII System - Data Link Connector Location
11-53-98 JAN 99 Engine Control Module - Hesitation on Acceleration
18-53-98 DEC 98 Service Manual - Corrections/Revisions
05-33-98R OCT 98 Body/Driveline - Vibration/Noise From Rear
11-49-97R SEP 98 OBD Check During State I/M Program
18-50-98 AUG 98 Service Manual - Updates
18-47-98 APR 98 Service Manual - Corrections
13-71-98 MAR 98 Paint Codes and Color Names.
17-03-98 FEB 98 Air Bags - Disabled
11-51-97 DEC 97 AWD & Full-Time 4WD Diagnostic Testing Precautions
11-50-97 DEC 97 State I/M Program Advisory Bulletin
18-41-97 NOV 97 Manual Corrections: 98 Legacy..
18-42-97 NOV 97 Service Manuals Corrections
18-37-97 SEP 97 Electrical System - Service Manual Correction
01-145-97 JUN 97 Engine - Tie Down Procedure to Prevent Damage
13-70-97 MAY 97 Paint - Codes and Color Names
01-144-87 FEB 97 Ignition & Door Key - Code Numbers
01-144-97 FEB 97 Keys - Ignition and Door Code Numbers
11-51-97 FEB 97 Diagnostic Service/Emissions Testing Cautions
01-143-96 DEC 96 Service Manual - Sealants and Adhesives Updates
10-69-96 NOV 96 Optional Driver's Side Defroster Grill Available
15-101-96 OCT 96 CD Player - Operating Characteristics

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Old 04-06-2003, 09:16 PM   #9
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Hey Thanks A Lot!
I would really like to see some pics guys.
I need some ideas! Suggestions anything.
I will have more info on the car coming and
with that more questions! Yoiu guys are a
great help!!

Peace
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Old 04-08-2003, 03:49 AM   #10
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Another Legacy tuner is Cobb Tuning. Something like their stage 2 setup gets you up near 200 hp without breaking the bank. They are still working on the header though.

www.cobbtuning.com

Jay
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Old 04-08-2003, 07:09 AM   #11
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Check out the thread "bling bling legacys show yourselves" for pics, I think everyones car is in there. That thread really should be sticky.
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Old 04-09-2003, 02:37 AM   #12
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413Rally,
If this helps you in your considerations, I have a 1997 Legacy GT 2.5, that I bought new in August 1996, so it should arguably have more problems than the 1998 cars, yet mine has had no problems.
My 1997 Legacy GT has 92,000+ miles on it, and I've never had a problem with it. Its an automatic transmission car. I drive it HARD, and I never wash/wax it, but I change the oil every 3,000 miles. I have yet to get a tune up. The car runs very strong. It is the best car overall that I have ever had, and I've had quite a few, including some more expensive vehicles like an Acura Legend Coupe and an Audi S4. Considering the price, reliability, and driving dynamics of this car, its clearly the best value out there.
My GT is now approaching seven years old, and its still on the original spark plugs and the original battery. The car has only needed an alignment once in all those miles. I've posted in these forums before about looking at other more expensive vehicles (such as Audi S8, etc), but I still keep thinking that I love this 1997 Legacy GT too much to get rid of it. I consider it the best commuter car, for me. Every morning and every night, I have a combined stop-n-go and highway drive to work in the suburbs of Philadelphia, of roughly 20+ miles each way, and I make it in 30-minutes. The car regularly sees speeds well in excess of certain speeds (I won't say how fast, to avoid the flamers, but its up there). Its all stock, no mods. It feels light and nimble. This car feels like it can thread a needle in dense highway traffic.
In short, I cannot recommend it highly enough.
One of the other posters commented that the high mileage may not be problem at all. I agree. If I didn't have this car, I'm not sure I would have believed it. I think mine runs just as strong at 92K miles now, as it did when it was brand new. This is the first car that I have ever considered keeping for such a long time. I might buy another vehicle, but I'll probably keep the '97 GT as an extra car because its just too good to get rid of, and its worth a lot more to me than the price I could sell it for.
By the way, the tire pressures make a huge difference in handling feel. I won't get into specifics (because of self-proclaimed experts who flame those of us who use high tire pressures), but just remember to experiment with the tire pressures to get the right balance of comfort and handling that you like. The Subaru "recommended" pressures are way too low.
I hope this helps you.
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Old 04-09-2003, 07:06 AM   #13
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Hey thanks a lot.
I will have more questions soon.
I might even be able to get a few
pics up of the car. I am trying to
figure out the details now.
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