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Old 04-08-2003, 06:47 PM   #1
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Well it looks like my finanaces may not be quite capable of purchasing any form of forced induction. So I need some Ideas

Current Mods:
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Cobb CAI
Borla Header
Blitz Nur-spec exhaust
Cobb Cams

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H&R springs
Whitline adjustable anti-sway bar

Brakes: Drilled Fronts with carbon fiber brake pads

Drivetrain:
Kartboy short shifter and bushings
exedy clutch and flywheel

Basically I have another $1000 I'd like to spend
on the engine what are my options
I know the chip and UD pulleys are options, but is there anything else (NO NOS) that can give me some more HP

PS> I'm gonna get some better brakes too. Not happy with the drilled rotors
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Old 04-08-2003, 07:01 PM   #2
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High flow cat, throttle body.

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Old 04-08-2003, 07:05 PM   #3
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Hm, you seem pretty well-covered already!

For your next mods, I suggest:

1) ProECM or TC2v.X -- I'm going to buy mine pretty soon. An easy increase in HP throughout the power-band and some high-end kick as well, or so I've been told.

2) New tires -- Throw out the RE92s if you still have them. I stumbled upon a cheap set of Michelin Energy MXV4 +s and bought them on impulse...even though they're not the best "sports" tire to choose, they do much better in all conditions than the RE92s and provide a more comfortable ride. I suggest Kumho 712, Sumitomo HTR+, or Falken Azenis. They won't eat up the whole $1k!

3) Lightweight Crank Pulley -- Installing my Mr. Josh's lightened crank pulley was a pain in the arse, but let me tell you, even my parents can feel the power increase to my AT 2.5 RS, while in the passenger's seat! Best bang for the buck mod I've done thus far.

4) Ground mod -- See the SPG thread for more info.

5) High-flow cat like a Random Tech -- The only missing link in your very nice exhaust sytem

Hope this helps! Let me know how you like those Cobb Cams, too, I'm interested to see if they're worth the dough.
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Old 04-08-2003, 07:45 PM   #4
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Well, I'd skip the chip, hold out until Cobb has the AccessFlash available for 2.5s. Other than that, a high flow cat would be a good idea, Mr Josh 43's Pulley is a very good deal, or save more $$$ and get some heads..
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Old 04-08-2003, 09:05 PM   #5
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I have 5zigen FN01R-C wheels (16lbs)with kuhmo 712s
and I don't have the blitz exhaust on yet, it is in the mail, but I will have the in between part of the exhuast done custom with a high flow cat.
Could I maybe get stiffer valve springs and raise my rev limiter, or maybe higher compression pistons?
I don't know much about engine internals (just bolt ons)
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Old 04-08-2003, 09:06 PM   #6
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crank pulley's are not the sames as underdrive pulleys?

the N1 pulley kit doesn't include a crank pulley?
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Old 04-08-2003, 10:11 PM   #7
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It does, but the N1 kit is overpriced and the best bang-for-the-buck is to just get a lightened crank pulley.

What's the Accessflash from Cobb? I've seen it mentioned before but I don't really know anything about it :P
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Old 04-09-2003, 01:56 AM   #8
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Well, its ECU reflashing I would guess that is similar to a Unichip without an additional module. You can probably change the timing, a/f ratio, and redline. I dont know what else you can change, but check out Cobb Tuning's Webpage, they have info on it. The chip dosent make a consistent and worthwhile difference in my opinion. I think ECU Reflashing, a Stand Alone ECU, or a Unichip will offer much better gains when combined with an aggressive N/A build.
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Old 04-09-2003, 09:45 AM   #9
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Imprezive,

I was wondering what you thought of the Cobb Cams and where you got them installed. I was thinking about getting some and I live in Gainesville. Not too far from Deltona.

Thanks,
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Old 04-09-2003, 11:37 AM   #10
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I'd say, highflow cat, and ecu reflash...
the next steps are FI after that, maybe heads, but those aren't cheap.
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Old 04-09-2003, 01:07 PM   #11
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Well, you can buy upgraded valvesprings and titanium retainers and raise your redline to a max of about 7000 rpms. Anything higher than that, you're going to have the bottom end also..
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Old 04-09-2003, 04:02 PM   #12
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Tom from ludespeed did my install. $300 His "shop" is in orange city, right next to deltona.
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Old 04-09-2003, 04:16 PM   #13
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You could almost do a turbo for that and there's always n2o
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Old 04-09-2003, 06:06 PM   #14
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I don't beleive in doing anything halfway, and I need my car to go at least 200,000 miles with no MAJOR engine problems. So there is no way I could get any reliable form of forced induction for $1000-1500
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Old 04-09-2003, 06:12 PM   #15
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Oh yeah DrBoy
I LOVE the cams, my favorite mod so far. The only mod that I REALLY could tell a difference in the "butt dyno"
Although My CAI sounds really sick. And I'm sure I'll love the sound of the blitz exhaust, but power wise the cams are the best.
It pulls big time past 4000rpms
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Old 04-09-2003, 07:38 PM   #16
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You can also get some lightweight bumper beams for $120 bucks.. You cant "reliably" turbo your car for that much. To reliably turbo an RS to hold up for the long haul, you'll need to lower the compression, close the deck, and a bunch of other things. I figure it would cost at least 7000 to reliably turbo your car if you're handy.
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Old 04-10-2003, 09:10 AM   #17
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there is no way I could get any reliable form of forced induction for $1000-1500
I did, including engine management and clutch. It can be done if you play it conservative and buy good used parts. Shoot, my fuel system and electronics will support more power than my internals or tranny will take. The turbo I'm using is very small (too small) but upgrading is just a matter of $$/time away. With the influx of OE WRX parts you can to a custom built turbo reliably for $1000-$1500.

That being said, if you're looking for strictly N/A performance you should really look at a l/w flywheel/clutch combo. Everything you have right now will translate to F/I if you choose to do so later (you do have the street cams right?). I had a very similar setup to you (except I had a UD pulley, ProECM, and a few other mods) and they transitioned to F/I very well. The only thing I wish I would've done different is installing a flywheel/clutch while still n/a.
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Old 04-10-2003, 03:23 PM   #18
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I don't have the knowledge to properly tune that kind of setup. It is possible if you know what you are doing. And I don't a wrx setup when I have a lower redline and more displacment. I would rather a kit desinged for a RS.

PS I already have a lightweight flywheel. and clutch.

PPS> Nothing is set in stone. I might still go forced induction. I just want to know my options. It kinda depends of how long I can live off ramen noodles
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Old 04-10-2003, 05:02 PM   #19
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Just noticed you're from Fl. You may want to email Graham, he's a FL native but goes to school here in Texas. He might have some local shops for you to check out for labor, etc. He also did a DIY "kit" and he was my inspiration. Just keep the option open and it looks like you have (street cams, etc) all will compliment F/I very well when you turn to the dark side
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tom's shop (ludespeed) is only 10 minutes from my house, so he can help me with the install. Or just bribe the JAX mod squad to help me
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Old 04-11-2003, 04:32 AM   #21
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random tech cat....300

then spend the rest on some dba wrx sized slotted rotors(400) for the front and a h6 rear upgrade(200)... and throw some axxis ultimates(120) on those calipers...now you can stop too!!..so i went a little over budget
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Old 04-11-2003, 05:40 AM   #22
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I have the Cats taken care of!
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Old 04-11-2003, 09:56 AM   #23
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go for a set of gfb pulleys, replaces the alternator, crank and power steering pulleys with smaller, nonunderdriven ones, buddy of mine just put them on his wrx and said his engine response is MUCH better now, and felt a small improvement in power.

then go after the brakes, or the ecu reflash when its available
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Old 04-12-2003, 04:16 AM   #24
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If you do much canyon carving or autocross, you'll benefit from racing seats & harnesses. You'd be amazed at how much faster you can corner when you're not white-knuckling the steering wheel trying to hold on...

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things to look at:
throttle body coolant bypass, lightweight stuff (bumper beams are said to make a big difference), or save for Cobb heads, or maybe the DNT supercharger kit that's coming soon.
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Old 04-12-2003, 08:37 AM   #25
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Yeah I guess the only the other option is to go lightweight.
thanx
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