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Old 04-10-2003, 10:25 AM   #1
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I wanted to let everyone know why I have descided to buy the STI. The EVO is a great car to but the desciding factors had nothing to do with looks or handling or power.

The biggest factor that swayed me was attitude. You just got to love the attitude of subaru. A few years back this small company took a gamble and brought over the wrx. Something none of the bigger companies had the guts to do. They took a chance but it paid off majorly. Now they could of brought over a wateredown version of the sti as well. But instead, once again it was balls to the walls and in your face time. They gave us a fully loaded STI with all the goodies. The suspension, the power, the brakes, the engine, the 6 speed. They gave us one of the best STi's out there with all their technology. And they are going to do it at a price we all will absolutely be drooling over.

This all shows me that subaru is committed to us as customers. And that is more important to me than anything else. They definately have the right attitude. After all it really does boil down to "whats inside".
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Old 04-10-2003, 10:31 AM   #2
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You want the big hood scoop don't cha.

Go on, admit it!
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Old 04-10-2003, 11:29 AM   #3
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Seriously, if I was SOA, I would put the above statement on Subaru web age as "Customer's comments".

Well said...

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Old 04-10-2003, 11:39 AM   #4
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im with ya man, subaru all the way!
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Old 04-10-2003, 01:12 PM   #5
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Amen brother!

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Old 04-10-2003, 01:59 PM   #6
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that was one of the best reasons i heard to buy the STI!!!!!

you proved a great point and you didn't even have to bash the EVO to do so.

great job!!!
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Old 04-10-2003, 03:21 PM   #7
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I am buying a STi because the EVO is ugly and stupid and the STI is cool and hip.
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Old 04-10-2003, 04:37 PM   #8
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And they are going to do it at a price we all will absolutely be drooling over.
*keeps fingers crossed*
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Old 04-10-2003, 04:43 PM   #9
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I agree, although I'm not buying an STi...yet. Personally, regardless of how good the Evo is, I would never get it b/c Mitsubishi was such a sissy in releasing it here in the states. First they wait 2 years to see if the WRX flops, and when they see it's a roaring success, they reward us by sending over a watered down version of the Evo. I was estatic when Subaru pissed on them last January by introducing the STi the weekend after the Evo was announced. Mitsubishi got what it deserved.
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Old 04-10-2003, 06:26 PM   #10
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mitsubishi and subaru have been going at it in the world market for quite some time now. we are lucky to be in the market where subaru finally says "enough is enough" and really tries to make the STi a better can than the evo.

well said.
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Old 04-10-2003, 09:35 PM   #11
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Well yeah that was very moving Dlowman,..BUT,...having worked for Subaru,.I can tell you first hand, they are old fashioned and up until a few years ago, they were only a hand full of people @ Subaru ,who really even cared about the 2.5 RS project,..let alone bringing the now 10 YEAR OLD WRX over here !!

I have waited over 10 years to see the day, and really never thought I would see the day that Subaru offered an STI model in the states,..and yes it's a great thing, but we DESERVE IT !!!

I know most of the people on the STI forum were not even thinking about Subarus 7 -9 years ago, or buying the Duke videos of each years WRC rally races for $ 45.00 each plus shipping !!

I have been dedicated to this whole thing for a looong time and so yes, while SOA should be congratulated,..they also should have someone tell them,................" IT's ABOUT TIME YOU GOT OFF YOUR A-- AND GAVE US WHAT WE HAVE BEEN ASKING FOR !!!!

Do I sound bitter,..no I just get worked up a little
I remember when the 22b went on sale,.by the time we found out it was just tooo late,...my neighbor was overseas at the time and tried to buy one,...some people paid like $ 85k for those things and if you have ever been in one, you know why !!


Any way,....we're gettin' it and it'll be great and when your buddies tease you about the wing being a place to set your food on at your favorite hangout,..tell em'... you waited over 10 years to be able to do that,,..."


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Old 04-11-2003, 01:38 AM   #12
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I don't see how you can say Mitsu/DSM hasn't given their customers some cars which were ahead of their time (USDM versions) as well - let's not forget the 1st GSX was 1990, a tdo5-16g 195 hp awd w/limited slip option sports coupe that could still give a stock WRX a run for it's money today.

And although the VR4 was a bit bloated, for 91 a 300HP twin turbo with AWD/AWS/and active aerodynamics was an amazing amount of technology in a relatively affordable package.

Oh and for those that don't remember a brand new premier edition VR4 had an MSRP of only $31,800
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Old 04-11-2003, 02:19 AM   #13
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well, i guess at that time the reliability issues about those cars were a bit high. however, the Evolution series is a completely different line of cars, especially in japan. there's no fooling around when mitsubishi built these cars. yes, the US version is de-tuned, however, we seem to leave out the fact that this is just the regular version of the Evolution, much like that of the WRX which is the regular version of the WRX STi. i wouldn't doubt that mitsubishi will bring a ralliart tuned Evolution maybe next year or so to compete with the STi, now that will be interesting.
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Old 04-11-2003, 03:59 PM   #14
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if Subaru should be congratulated for success or reprimanded for such a late success. They had good or great car for last 10 years and they did not sell it in its biggest market.
I would call it stupid.

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PS In the same time Mitsu sold turbocharged FWD and AWD and FWD convertible. Unluckily they redesigned Eclipse and I am not sure that it is success.
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Old 04-12-2003, 12:36 AM   #15
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I don't see how you can say Mitsu/DSM hasn't given their customers some cars which were ahead of their time (USDM versions) as well - let's not forget the 1st GSX was 1990, a tdo5-16g 195 hp awd w/limited slip option sports coupe that could still give a stock WRX a run for it's money today.

And although the VR4 was a bit bloated, for 91 a 300HP twin turbo with AWD/AWS/and active aerodynamics was an amazing amount of technology in a relatively affordable package.

Oh and for those that don't remember a brand new premier edition VR4 had an MSRP of only $31,800
1. I have to congratz SOA on doing being loyal to their customers...

2. Sure these cars came with a little bit of problems but why? Mainly because people weren't taking the precautions that were needed to take care of the car (specifilly talking about the VR-4) it had some very technological features, and in order for the car to run healthy, it needed to have some extra maintance, which Mitsusbishi for some reason didn't think it was neccesery to get that trough... I belive that is why they are taking so many precautions and telling ppl about high maintaince for the Evo when the only high maintaince is 100% synthetic oil... Mitsubishi has alawys tried to do a good job with their customers... but lets admit it, euro and japanese car owners take more care of their cars... one of the reasons why Mitsubishi is one of the most reliable companies over there....

3. Mitsubishi did not bring the Evolution b/c they wanted to see how the WRX did but more because they were going throug a tough time for a little bit, and it is only recently that they are prospering really well...so they took a chance and are bringing a world-dominant car over here.. The car IS detuned... but somethings to keep in mind.. Almost NO EVO owner wants the AYC..only want Super AYC.... Now ACD is another story... JDM has a rated 276 hp, realisticly, dyno proven, 310-315 hp.. how do you get this in the USDM? Simple, you replace a chip, all it takes...Personally why I KNOW MItsubishi did not bring AYC/ACD/6SPD over here is because they wanted ot stay well below the 30k limit..which they did (plz do not blame dealers for the MSRP b/c MMSA does not controll that...and many MANY mitsu dealers sell for MSRP).. also they want to see how the car turns out over here... all the ayc/acd/and 6spd would put the price over 30k for sure...

4. Belive me i love the STi, i'm sorry if i seemed a little biased towards the EVO, but I lvoe these cars to death, I've been waiting a long time for these cars to come here... and yes since maybe not 10 yrs ago.. but 5 yrs ago..when i got into the car scene... I have been waiting immpaciently when the great EVO vs. STi would come about... and it greatly did and i am very greatfull for both these cars... they will bring good compition and show what an AWD..rally inspired cars can really do....

Wow..lol.. probbaly the longest post I've ever written in any board...



Just my .02 cents...Peace
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Old 04-12-2003, 11:47 AM   #16
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Shouldn't tha be ,Just my .02 dollare or Just my 2 cents...?
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Old 04-14-2003, 05:04 PM   #17
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You want the big hood scoop don't cha.

Go on, admit it!
and the big ass wing!!!!!


also, toyota doesnt make anything 4 door sedan with a 4 cyl and any kind of forced induction...
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Old 04-14-2003, 10:06 PM   #18
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Oops,Thought I was in OT still
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Old 04-15-2003, 01:11 AM   #19
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I'm buying an STI cuz' my yellow 02 WRX got STOLEN!
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I'm buying an STI cuz' my yellow 02 WRX got STOLEN!


i don't quite know whether to be happy or sad for you. well let's just say, sorry for your car being stolen and damn you, now i'm jealous.
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Old 04-15-2003, 06:45 PM   #21
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I am buying an STi because;
1) Subaru is a engineering company disguised as a car manufactor.
2) Subaru focuses on a small market segment comprised of a) economy and value minded consumers seeking quality, all weather traction and price point, and b) performance minded individuals looking for high performance/cost ratios.
3) Subaru started this market, believed in it, and took a hugh financial gamble (for their size). That bold move deserves my business.
4) I understand the mechanical and electronic detail of the Impreza. Not interested in a new steep learning curve for EVO, the only other comparable car. Professionals in the repair business tell me Subaru is exponentially higher quality than Mitsu. I don't know personally, just reporting.
5) The STi will fit well into the other four Subarus in my family (includes a 1985 Brat).
6) Obviously, I am a Subaru paritisan. I simply want a STi. And I am certain I will not be disappointed or have complaints that can't be solved easily.

Hail Subaru!!

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Old 04-16-2003, 10:24 PM   #22
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Maybe you guys don't know this but Subaru used to market to gays and had Martina Naratilova as their spokesperson/

They have indeed come a long way. Subaru knew they had to focus on a niche market to survive and did that brilliantly with "the beauty of AWD". Now, the performance aspect further distinguishes them from the pack... I see the MY05 wrx having a 2.5L engine or a new 2.5L wrx model at 270 HP to combat the evo. Nicely squeezing mitsu out of that price segment as well.

Their strategy is apparent and because of the small size of Subaru- it can be implemented.

Mitsu on the other hand relies on a host of entry-level cars to make profit. Their current eclipse is quite a hit actually and despite the emphasis on GT rather than rice rocket. The profit levels appear to be higher than the 2G eclipses. They also have a huge lineup to support and will be more slow moving.

Subaru has committed. Since SCC revealed 2 years ago that Subaru has changed their strategy to deliver a complete series of AWD performance cars, everything has fallen into place. I would like to know the marketing person at SOA that made this possible. He's a freaking genius.

I really do not see any other manufacturer responding in the same way other than the domestics. They seem to be get into the act with turbocharged and supercharged compact cars. Somehow, power is selling again.



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