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Old 04-20-2003, 03:53 PM   #1
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I have plans to purchase a set of Prodrive wagon specific springs and I have a few questions. Now I have done a search and turned up many helpful threads but I want specific answers regarding a specific brand of spring. So for those of you who have installed Prodrive springs on your wagon please help me out here. My main concern is alignment issues. Who has had their wagon aligned and needed rear camber bolts to adjust rear camber angles or is there really enough change in the angle to warrant the need for camber bolts. Now for alignment specs what would be good settings for basically a street driven wagon with a highly spirited driver. On this I am thinking -.7deg. to -1.0deg. camber up front with 0 toe. In the rear I am guessing the least amount of camber possible even with the help of camber bolts would be desired with 0 toe. As you may guess I am no alignment guru but I am beginning to understand what settings do what for handling characteristics. I also would like to hear positive or negative thoughts on the ride and overall performance of your wagon with Prodrive springs installed. Thanks alot guys.
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Old 04-21-2003, 09:20 AM   #2
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First off I am un aware that Prodrive makes a wagon specific kit. IIRC they just make a spring set, for both sedans & wagons.

I have them on my car. I have tried to muscle my rears into better camber specs, but I won't be able to without camber bolts... It's quite obvious visually & has been discussed before.

I hope to pick some up once I hear back from Ryan @ Irvine.

I will say this though... the Prodrive springs look great on the wagon! since the front drop is more than the rear.. it actually levels off the wagon quite nicely! But the important part is the handling which it grealy improves. The stock struts are a touch under dampened... or at least they feel that way to me. Rear swaybar is a must as well.

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Old 04-21-2003, 11:04 AM   #3
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Agreed, I LOVE the stance on my wagon now.

But the real improvement was in the handling. Much more controlled, not so wallowy. I'm working on getting a set of SPT/STi V7 wagon struts and I'll let everyone know how they work out. BUt I agree with John, the stock struts are a touch underdamped for these springs.

AFAIK, Prodrive just make one set of springs for the WRX, both sedan and wagon.

Alignment, my front is dialed in as far as they could get it...and I could just barely get -1.0. The rear is out slightly, but not enough to get out of the factory specs (on MY car). I'd actually like a bit more camber in the rear, so I'll prolly get some anyways.
I'm also running zero toe f/r. And I've got similar driving habits to yours

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Old 04-21-2003, 12:55 PM   #4
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Yupper, that's the stuff I was gonna say. These springs work great on the wagons, and are not an answer for every suspension issue (strut damping/rebound, camber bolts/plates) good place to start, better ride, handling and looks...
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Old 04-21-2003, 01:27 PM   #5
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The ride is fantastic, and IMO, better than stock.

I was very worried about this because my STi/SPT setup was just to damn stiff.

I need to find a place to host pics. The car looks fantastic. I will have it aligned later this week, so I don't know how bad it is yet. The guys that are local say that I will not need camber bolts, but we will see.

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Old 04-21-2003, 01:43 PM   #6
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Would anyone suggest camber plates on their wagon, to help open up the range of adjustment?
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Old 04-21-2003, 04:40 PM   #7
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Obviously they'd be great to give you more room for aggressive adjustments, but my car is a daily driver & although some might not agree.. I like to be rather quiet in the road noise department. If I ever ran camber plates it would be front only.

If anyone can get their camber back to within -.5 in the rear without camber bolts... please tell me how.. It is impossible with my car & the other wagon I put Prodrive Springs on. I've only been able to with MRT springs on a friends TS... however his rears were WRX sedan strut assemblies... not the standard wagon ones so that might be the trick.
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Old 04-21-2003, 04:44 PM   #8
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So it appears that the camber bolts may not be required, so let me ask the question this way:

Would those of you who have the Prodrive springs on your wagon consider the rear camber bolts a cheap insurance policy to make sure that it can be aligned to factory spec for camber?

Very interested as I will be installing mine either this weekend or the next depending on when I get them.

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Old 04-21-2003, 04:48 PM   #9
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Just found the answer to my question in another thread. Credit to member Got Groceries for this quote:

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Prodrive springs on stock struts over here. Ride is fine, shocks are ok after 6,000 miles, but I don't expect them to last as long as they would have otherwise. Handling is great, but I have the SPT rear sway bar and STi strut tops also. You won't need rear camber bolts with this setup unless you want to dial in more negative camber, the Prodrives don't lower the back enough to take it out of spec.
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