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Old 04-13-2003, 12:21 PM   #1
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Default I miss my RE92s in a strange kinda way

Unlike some members here, I used my RE92s till they were worn out, so I have developed a pretty good relationship with them . I would do some crazy sliding turns(in the wet), would take some rally-style roads, I even have participated in rally-cross events, semi-succesfully (before I got rally dedicated tires).

In february, however, I purchased Yokohama AVS ES100s. To go along with that I got 20mm rear sway bar. I expected Yoko's to have more grip but I though that the stiffer end would allow for some sliding still. What I have discovered, that these stupid Yokohamas just have too much grip, EVEN IN THE WET!!

I can't do nothing but going fast around the corners on the paved roads now
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Old 04-13-2003, 03:54 PM   #2
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What I have discovered, that these stupid Yokohamas just have too much grip, EVEN IN THE WET!!

I can't do nothing but going fast around the corners on the paved roads now
...and...this is a bad thing? ...

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Old 04-13-2003, 03:55 PM   #3
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I wore my re92 down for 73k miles It was hard not to slide, and a bunch scary
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Old 04-13-2003, 04:46 PM   #4
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I just stuck my Stock rims and RE92's back on. Im worried now because its raining and I only have about 4/32 left on the wheels! I too like the wheel clearance. I immediately took my car to a gravel road and drove around and slid a little. Could never do that with 17" wheels

Oh well, better than having them deny my warranty of a bad wheel bearing because of "aftermarket wheels"
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Old 04-13-2003, 05:16 PM   #5
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I wore my re92 down for 73k miles It was hard not to slide, and a bunch scary
Dude, you put 73k miles on the RE92's? Crap! I was hoping mine would only last 15k or so.
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Old 04-13-2003, 05:28 PM   #6
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my RE92 lasted 10k.........i wanted to get rid of them as quickly as i could, and i had a blast doing it what i found to be interesting is that my Q-rated snows outperformed the RE92's in almost every condition
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Old 04-14-2003, 08:42 AM   #7
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...and...this is a bad thing? ...
It depends on your definition of fun. For me, getting 0.1g of extra lateral grip is not more fun or less fun. My idea of fun is being able to slide a car sideways without worrying too much about sliding into a tree.

I join Osgood30 in the RE92 fan club - the absolute level of grip on these tires sucks big time, but their progressive nature combined with the WRX chassis tuning make for some predictable and safe drifting.
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Old 04-14-2003, 12:18 PM   #8
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It depends on your definition of fun. For me, getting 0.1g of extra lateral grip is not more fun or less fun. My idea of fun is being able to slide a car sideways without worrying too much about sliding into a tree.

I join Osgood30 in the RE92 fan club - the absolute level of grip on these tires sucks big time, but their progressive nature combined with the WRX chassis tuning make for some predictable and safe drifting.

Amen

Their nature makes it easy to access the edge of the performance envelope of the WRX. I feel am learning more about the car driving it at the edge, rather than struggling to get it there (in a safe and predictable manner).

For those of you that took the RE-92s off as soon as you found out other people thought they suck, stick them back on and find out what the WRX was made for. (and it aint no track car, cuz the WRC don't race on any track as far as I know.)

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Old 04-14-2003, 03:08 PM   #9
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Right on!

The RE92's allowed me to fling the car sideways on the street at somewhat reasonable speeds. They were consistent in the wet, and reasonable in the dirt. They even worked well through their first winter. All was not perfect though; the absolute grip was low, the fronts would roll even with high pressures, they made a lot of noise as you approached (and passed) the limit, and they only lasted for 25k km of my abuse. I now have 225mm Kumho 217s on 17" rims. The absolute grip is now so high that you have to be trully stupid to slide them on the street. It's also next to impossible to do a powered drift with them. On the plus side feedback and turn in are excelent and of course they don't roll over. I suspect they'll allow more balance on the track and at autocross, due to the more consistent front contact patch.

The moral; be sure you have fun with the RE92s before you upgrade to something with better outright performance.
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Old 04-14-2003, 08:07 PM   #10
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As Iv been driving around, I almost thing that the RE92's compete with my Khmho 711's. Maybe its my driving and alignment, but when taking an offramp, I can only go 1-2mph MORE with my Kumho's than I can with my RE92's. Thing is the Kumho's are LOTS quieter, but for overall grip I really dont have much to complain about.
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Old 04-14-2003, 08:56 PM   #11
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You guys are right on the money!

I love the idea of relatively low traction tires to slide around on and have fun with. Its so much more safe and fun to kick the tail around at 25 mph than 65 mph because that's the only speed you can break traction with on high grip tires(granted, i can get my T1-S's to slide at much lower speeds but you get my point!)!

My friend had a 250hp 323 GTX set up for the track and it cornered flat and was silly fast. problem was he could only really have fun on the track or at insane speeds on the city streets. Not good. he switched to driving snow tires all year long and just loved it. His fun factor went down to pedestrian speeds and any wildness at the wheel was easy to catch because of the low speed.

My only complaint with the RE92's is that they squeel like stuck pigs at even the lowest speeds. What i want are absolutely quiet tires at teh limit that i can just slide around in.

Low traction tires are great learning tires. you can push your car to the limits (at lower speeds) and be relatively safe. Now how's that for a contradiction!


*usual disclaimer, driving wild in the streets is baad and should be kept on the track, bla, bla, bla.

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Old 04-14-2003, 09:10 PM   #12
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Being as this is my first "nice" car I have ever owned, I have never driven on up-graded tires. The RE-92's have been a blast in both the snow, rain, and dry, and not to sound utterly redundant, they allow for a fun, flingable car at street-driven, rather safe speeds.

With that said, I have a set of S-03's on the way which should be installed before the end of the month - I have to admit that I AM excited for them, even if the squeelin and chirpin are going to be over until winter rolls around, but the RE92's certainly give a big margin of safety when learning the handling dynamics of our vehicles.
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Old 04-15-2003, 12:10 AM   #13
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Old 04-15-2003, 02:31 AM   #14
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You guys are right on the money!


My only complaint with the RE92's is that they squeel like stuck pigs at even the lowest speeds.
My last Auto-X with the RE-92s, the tech guys all warned me that my tires sucked. I was like duh.. I just went out and had fun!!

But my car sounded like it had FOUR stuck pigs under it, while sliding along on greased pig fat. Man that was fun. Did my first successful pendulum turn directly into a near full opposite lock drift. Very very cool

Today I was driving around in the rain, and I realized I never took out the extra air from the auto-x setup. whoa! very different, very very slippery in the rain. need to go out and deflate them a bit.

like I have told other WRX owners that I meet, keep them RE-92s on their and learn a thing or two about the car and then switch.

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Old 04-15-2003, 09:18 AM   #15
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The RE92's are fun to slide on dry pavement. The limits aren't so high that drifting the car requires insanely high speeds. On wet pavement, however, the RE92's feel very slippery. On the other hand, I also like my summer tires (Sumitomo HTRZ II's) for the instant response that they give. They are different tires for a different kind of driving enjoyment.
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Old 04-15-2003, 02:52 PM   #16
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Maybe my idea that the RE92's and 711's having equal grip was wrong. I took that offramp today and the RE's lost grip WAY before the 711's normally would.

I guess when going form low-high grip tires you dont notice it that much, but when you LOSE grip, you suddenly notice it because youve had it for so long.
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Old 04-15-2003, 05:03 PM   #17
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I just have one thing to add...

Anybody who thinks that the RE92s are the worst tire in the world has obviously not experienced the 185/70-14 Firestone Affinitys that were on my Brighton when I bought it! I am liking the RE92s enough that I'm thinking about buying a used set for when my current tires wear out. When you consider how cheap you can pick them up, they are an unbeatable value. I think I saw a set with a few thousand miles on them for $60.
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