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Old 04-14-2003, 05:41 PM   #1
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With the dccd @ 35/65 any opinions on how easily the sti will get loose
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Old 04-14-2003, 07:36 PM   #2
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Slightly easier than with the torque split set to 50/50?

Seriously, what kind of answer were you looking for, do you want us to compare it to your dad's Mustang or something? Who do you hope to hear from? Do you think that even 2% of the people on these boards have actually driven an STi? The ones who have are on a gag order until sometime in May I think.

I'm sure it will handle great on all surfaces including dirt, gravel, wet pavement, snow, etc... Like most cars it will probably still veer a little towards understeer, but not nearly as much as a standard WRX. And stock tires will be really sticky.


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Old 04-14-2003, 07:43 PM   #3
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i know ill be pitching it sideways...on SNOW!

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Old 04-14-2003, 10:04 PM   #4
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My dad has no "rust"ang but rather an ES300 that is very difficult to get sideways unless I use a little e-brake action.

The answer that Iam looking for,(and I do realize that nobody has driven a usdm sti or if they have they can't say till may) is will the car be able to get completely sideways,with thick plumes of smoke in the wheels and leave very noticable trails of Brigestone rubber all through the city streets!!
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Old 04-14-2003, 10:12 PM   #5
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every car can be drifted when driven by the right driver!!!!

if that is all you want from the car than i would suggest to buy a cheap RWD car instead that way when you crash it on the city streets the damage won't be that big

but really now, most people who buy AWD cars do that for the amaizng stabillity through corners and for the fact that the car is very easy to keep under control. if you will do some research on the web, you will find out that most of Japan's finest drifters choose a RWD and not a AWD for that purpose.
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Old 04-14-2003, 11:18 PM   #6
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make sure you get sideways on the track, not the street.
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Old 04-14-2003, 11:30 PM   #7
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make sure you get sideways on the track, not the street.
i totally agree.
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Old 04-14-2003, 11:46 PM   #8
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With the dccd @ 35/65 any opinions on how easily the sti will get loose
According to shirokuma, fairly easy.
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Old 04-15-2003, 12:07 AM   #9
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My dad has no "rust"ang but rather an ES300 that is very difficult to get sideways unless I use a little e-brake action.

The answer that Iam looking for,(and I do realize that nobody has driven a usdm sti or if they have they can't say till may) is will the car be able to get completely sideways,with thick plumes of smoke in the wheels and leave very noticable trails of Brigestone rubber all through the city streets!!
How old are you??
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Old 04-15-2003, 12:10 AM   #10
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i would also like to know that!!
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Old 04-15-2003, 01:04 AM   #11
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WOW! slinger tough crowd in here huh? You went from asking a simple question to being almost thrown in jail for thinking about sliding a STI around a corner on a city street in which you dont even have yet. lol
Even the big cheese was on your back. <eyeroll>
Almost afraid to write anything as there's a mob waiting to jump on ya.
so is life.
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Old 04-15-2003, 01:09 AM   #12
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i don't think anybody jumped on him but most of us are just trying to prevent poeple from doing things that can get you injured or killed like drifting in the city. if you want to drift or race there are many places you can do that without putting yourself and others at such risk. also i beleive that he did get the answear he was looking for .
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Old 04-15-2003, 01:15 AM   #13
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any car with any setting can be broken loose easily depends how you drive it and the dirving condition...

i am sure a bulldozer can push the sti slide over any surface though
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Old 04-15-2003, 03:28 AM   #14
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if you watch the latest Camry commercial you'll realize you can get loose with any setting. (i hate the car but love that commercial!) in fact, i find FWD's to be most fun, using ebrake

from my experience... if you try to get loose in any car with that much grip (and rubber) you better be ready to catch it quick, since you'd be going pretty damn fast already. Seriously, I agree with most here... save the drifting for the track, not street.
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Old 04-15-2003, 12:55 PM   #15
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I understand that it is difficult to obtain an accurate impression of an individual by simply reading their posts these boards. But I thought I would take a minute to explain my motives for questioning the ability of the sti "gettin sideways".

First off Iam 27 years old and have owned 12 cars, and 3 cycles, the last one of which (an R1) I race at Blackhawk here in WI.

Iam not trying to beat my own drum here, but I feel that I have been put in a position to defend myself, that I am not a 16 year old w/ limited driving experience looking to beat the piss out of this fine machine and drive around town and or local circut like a total ***hole!

Iam simply bored and frustrated due to the lack new info provided by SOA!

So instead of searching other sites on the web unrelated to automobiles that have the potential to get me aroused,(ha) I thought that some of you guys could peak my interest by providing some info about fish-tailing a car that nobody has driven
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Old 04-15-2003, 02:46 PM   #16
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I understand that it is difficult to obtain an accurate impression of an individual by simply reading their posts these boards. But I thought I would take a minute to explain my motives for questioning the ability of the sti "gettin sideways".

First off Iam 27 years old and have owned 12 cars, and 3 cycles, the last one of which (an R1) I race at Blackhawk here in WI.

Iam not trying to beat my own drum here, but I feel that I have been put in a position to defend myself, that I am not a 16 year old w/ limited driving experience looking to beat the piss out of this fine machine and drive around town and or local circut like a total ***hole!

Iam simply bored and frustrated due to the lack new info provided by SOA!

So instead of searching other sites on the web unrelated to automobiles that have the potential to get me aroused,(ha) I thought that some of you guys could peak my interest by providing some info about fish-tailing a car that nobody has driven

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You guys need to relax
It is a great question, I would love to know how easily this car
will blow sideways coming out of a turn. .....ITS FUN!!!!!
I am 35 years old and have driven all most every car out there. I work in the automotive restoration business and the insurance
business. I am not young or imature, but I love putting down nice black stripes around a corner. I currently have 3 motorcycles, 2 cars, and a truck. I off road in the truck, lay rubber on everthing else. There is a time and a place to do it. BE RESPONSIBLE
AND LAY SOME RUBBER.
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Old 04-15-2003, 03:13 PM   #17
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Ok then so lets here some techniques on how to properly drift an AWD car. I mean really how the hell do you do it?
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Old 04-15-2003, 04:03 PM   #18
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Ok then so lets here some techniques on how to properly drift an AWD car. I mean really how the hell do you do it?
with the ebrake.... and do it as much as posiblie on all city streets.




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Old 04-15-2003, 05:33 PM   #19
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Change the tires to RE-92's
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Old 04-15-2003, 05:44 PM   #20
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there are many ways to do that. if you want just go to kazza and look for a video called drifting something.
one way is to use worn out tires in the back and that will cause the car to lose traction in the back. another way is to simple counter steer at a good speed therefore causing the car to breal lose. as far as i can remembr these are some of the ways to drift:

power drift (mostly RWD)
e-brake
crappy tires
counter steer
braking drift

i am sure there are many more out there.
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Old 04-15-2003, 05:57 PM   #21
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Hmm, you want the car sideways? Thats easy, hit a ramp with one side of the car, im sure youll get it sideways then!
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Old 04-15-2003, 05:59 PM   #22
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Why buy a car to drive sideways?
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Old 04-15-2003, 06:00 PM   #23
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Braking drift- trail braking into a corner at medium to low speed.

Faint Drift- rock the car towards the outside of a turn and then throw the car into the turn. (probably the best way to induce drift on an AWD car)

Clutch Kick- pop the clutch around a turn to create a jolt in the rear wheels and induce drift. Probably will be tough to do with AWD, but with 35/65 DCCD settings, it may be possible.

Shift Lock- release clutch on a downshift around a corner (like clutch kick).

E-Brake Drift- use e-brake

Dirt Drop Drift- drop the rear tires into the dirt (hard to control because of the change in traction characteristics).

Jump Drift- go over the curb on the inside of the apex of a turn...the bouncing will make you lose rear traction

Long Slide Drift- basically a high speed e-brake drift but a larger radius.

Swaying Drift- faint drift through slalom.

Power Drift - mash on throttle and hope the rear breaks free (hard to do in AWD...but once again, with 35/65 it may be fairly easy)
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Old 04-15-2003, 06:10 PM   #24
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Ok then so lets here some techniques on how to properly drift an AWD car. I mean really how the hell do you do it?
First it takes practice. And only practice on the road course/circuit. (not street!) This is the only way to find the limits on drifting. Of course, since you are on a course, you can go over the limit and not hit anything. (tree, house, car etc..)

Important to understand the physics of oversteer and understeer and how to control this. Best way to drift is (on tarmac) to use a late apex/late turn in by flicking the steering wheel (power off then immediately on, helps kick out rear) into the turn and immediately readying for counter-steer.

Or just turn on SpeedChannel this week to watch the pros do it. BTW, they make it look extremely easy, of which it is not.

Cheers,

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Old 04-15-2003, 06:12 PM   #25
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Now we are talking!!!!!!!!!
one great way already mentioned
is to turn away from the turn, let off the gas
to unload the rear, turn in abrupt and mash the trottle
This technique abuses the car very little it is very smooth when you are good at it.

As to why you would want to do it, it is fun really fun
and a great way to cut a corner quicker.

Anyone watch rallies on asphalt ????
sliding is the fastest way around a turn especially with a car
with understeer.
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