Kumho 712 vs. Yokohama AVS ES100

smosh · 04-14-2003, 07:32 PM

I thought I had decided on the Yokohamas. Unfortunately, they're backordered at Tire Rack until possibly June.

Do I wait or do I look at the Kumhos or maybe some Dunlops?

I'm running on my snows right now...they're actually pretty good in the dry.

Thanks!

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vip · 04-14-2003, 09:14 PM

yo man forget those tires u want the ultimate in dry and good in rain for a good price.. check out the firestone firehawk sz50 EP these are made by bridgestone and are equivalent to s02pp

VIP

yebokmj · 04-14-2003, 10:04 PM

Try calling a local store, I got a killer deal on my Yokohama AVS ES100 215/45 17. Townfair tire price was $517 mounted ballanced and aligned. If you do the math that's cheaper than tire rack if you pay for the shipping and then get some else to do the balancing and alignment. Plus you get flat repair and free rotation.
Joshua

vile · 04-14-2003, 10:36 PM

consensus on this board is that the yok's is better....but i have the kumhos....they've been good to me. it feels so much better then the stocker....maybe that's y the kumhos feel so good, cuz i'm comparing it too crap, hehe

RedSled · 04-15-2003, 07:47 AM

I've had the Kumho 712s, Falken Azenis, and Yoko ES100...

So far I rate them Falken, Yoko(barely in second place), and Kumho...

But there's not a bad tire in the bunch...

I just got the Yokos in 225/50/16 at Discount Tire in beautiful Dayton, OH for $425, mounted and balanced...

Damn good price, methinks...

Luke@tirerack · 04-15-2003, 08:09 AM

I do not know where the June date came from but, we have the 215/45-17 in-stock at this time .... and an estimate from Yokohama for 5-2-03 for the 225/45-17's

smosh · 04-15-2003, 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Luke@tirerack
I do not know where the June date came from but, we have the 215/45-17 in-stock at this time .... and an estimate from Yokohama for 5-2-03 for the 225/45-17's

Luke, I'm looking for a set of take-off OEM alloys with the stock size Yokohamas. I'd love 17" rims but can't afford them!

Your website shows 4/16 availability, but the phone rep said in past experience it's late May possibly even June.

QA Guy · 04-15-2003, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RedSled
I've had the Kumho 712s, Falken Azenis, and Yoko ES100...

So far I rate them Falken, Yoko(barely in second place), and Kumho...

But there's not a bad tire in the bunch...

I just got the Yokos in 225/50/16 at Discount Tire in beautiful Dayton, OH for $425, mounted and balanced...

Damn good price, methinks...

What do you mean by "barely in second place"? Do you mean they almost beat the Falkens or they are just slightly ahead of the Kuhmos?

Thanks!

Luke@tirerack · 04-15-2003, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by smosh

Luke, I'm looking for a set of take-off OEM alloys with the stock size Yokohamas. I'd love 17" rims but can't afford them!

Your website shows 4/16 availability, but the phone rep said in past experience it's late May possibly even June.

give me a call and we can look into evverything and get you a good date of delivery

omahasubaru · 04-16-2003, 11:29 AM

Luke.. can you site some input on which is a better handling tire? The 712's are cheaper than the ES100's... Also which is a lighter tire?

Thanks - Jon

Bolster · 04-16-2003, 11:38 AM

I've been running the Yok's for just over 6 months now. They aren't the stickiest, but they are a huge improvement over the factory tires. Mine are getting pretty worn now, so I may try the Kumho's and see what the difference is.

04-14-2003, 07:32 PM	#1
smosh Scooby Newbie Member#: 12032 Join Date: Nov 2001 Chapter/Region: NESIC Location: Cape Elizabeth, ME Vehicle: '10 VW Golf TDi '05 Outback XT slushbox	Kumho 712 vs. Yokohama AVS ES100 I thought I had decided on the Yokohamas. Unfortunately, they're backordered at Tire Rack until possibly June. Do I wait or do I look at the Kumhos or maybe some Dunlops? I'm running on my snows right now...they're actually pretty good in the dry. Thanks! * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

04-14-2003, 10:04 PM	#3
yebokmj Scooby Specialist Member#: 2213 Join Date: Aug 2000 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Raymond, NH USA Vehicle: 1995 Impreza w/EJ257 Brilliant Red	Yokohama Try calling a local store, I got a killer deal on my Yokohama AVS ES100 215/45 17. Townfair tire price was $517 mounted ballanced and aligned. If you do the math that's cheaper than tire rack if you pay for the shipping and then get some else to do the balancing and alignment. Plus you get flat repair and free rotation. Joshua

04-15-2003, 07:47 AM	#5
RedSled Scooby Newbie Member#: 12125 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Manassas, VA Vehicle: 2002 WRX Sport Wagon Sedona Red Pearl	I've had the Kumho 712s, Falken Azenis, and Yoko ES100... So far I rate them Falken, Yoko(barely in second place), and Kumho... But there's not a bad tire in the bunch... I just got the Yokos in 225/50/16 at Discount Tire in beautiful Dayton, OH for $425, mounted and balanced... Damn good price, methinks... Last edited by RedSled; 04-15-2003 at 08:12 AM.

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vip Scooby Newbie Member#: 6854 Join Date: May 2001	yo man forget those tires u want the ultimate in dry and good in rain for a good price.. check out the firestone firehawk sz50 EP these are made by bridgestone and are equivalent to s02pp VIP

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Luke@tirerack Tire Rack Moderator Member#: 1215 Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: The Tire Rack Vehicle: 800 -428-8355 ext. 4362	I do not know where the June date came from but, we have the 215/45-17 in-stock at this time .... and an estimate from Yokohama for 5-2-03 for the 225/45-17's

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Bolster Scooby Specialist Member#: 22290 Join Date: Aug 2002 Chapter/Region: MAIC Vehicle: 2002 WRB WRX Wagon	I've been running the Yok's for just over 6 months now. They aren't the stickiest, but they are a huge improvement over the factory tires. Mine are getting pretty worn now, so I may try the Kumho's and see what the difference is.