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Old 04-11-2003, 05:58 PM   #1
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i'm looking for a new set of all season tires. i have sticky tires for the summer, but i want something with some grip and some abitily to handle rain/snow for the winter. i don't need a dedicated snow tire. looking at tire rack the sumitomo HTR+ jumps out. does anybody use these? any thoughts?

by the way i have 17" X 7" wheels.
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Old 04-12-2003, 01:48 AM   #2
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KDWS's or Dunlop SP5000s get good write-ups. Not sure about sizing availability though. There are undoubtedly a bunch of threads on this topic, try a search for more specifics.
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Old 04-12-2003, 07:06 AM   #3
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What he said basically. The BF Goodrich KDWS and Dunlop Sp5000 are the two most commonly referred all season's on this board. Personally I just picked up a set of Dunlops about three weeks ago and have no complaints. Excellent tires for the money.
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Old 04-12-2003, 09:26 PM   #4
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I'm afraid you have things backwards. I only say that because of how much I researched all-season tires before purchasing my Michelin Pilot Sport A/S's. You may want to consult Tire Rack's user tire-rating system in the process of decision-making.

What you buy depends on how much traction you want when things get cold and slippery. Based on my experience with the supposed best all-season tire, the compromise doesn't grip glazed winter roads. They do plow through light, fresh and loose snow. But we all know that those aren't the only winter road conditions. You also have packed snow and ice. These render the best all-season tire to be just like any other tire.

I recommend winter tires for the better range of winter traction, including ice. It appears that tire manufacturers are able to make excellent compromises for dry/wet weather performance. Just check Tire Rack. They kick-ass!

My Michelin's don't grip packed snow or ice. Basically any cold glazed surfaces. They are totally awesome in the rain and definitely in the dry. You can see the resemblance between the two Pilot Sport tire designs. The only advantage that I perceive between them is the A/S can handle loose snow and cold temperatures.

There is also the Vredestein tire brand which is also supposed to have excellent snow/all-season performers, but I haven't found much info on them around online.

When I replace my Michelins, I might try Continentals and Vredestein all-seasons just for the simplicity of 1 set of tires. Thats only until I put 18" rims on my car- then I'll be buying winter tires for the stock rims.
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Old 04-15-2003, 10:41 AM   #5
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I don't have them yet.. but I just ordered them from my wheel shop.. along with BBS RK 17x7 rims. From what I understand HTR+'s are a good middle-of-the-road tire for both road and snow. Obviously, probably not as grippy as an S-03... and probably not as awesome as some of the other snow and all-season tires...but, I guess I'll find out.

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Old 04-15-2003, 12:39 PM   #6
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i'm looking for a new set of all season tires... any thoughts?

by the way i have 17" X 7" wheels.
TireRack has a steal on Pirelli P7000 SSports. 235/40/17 for $85 per. These are supposedly a really good wet/dry tire that is only mediocre in snow. This size should fit your rims, they fit 7.5" perfectly.
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I bought the Sumitomo HTR+'s because they were priced well and after driving through some nasty snow over the winter (michigan), I would easily recommend them to anyone who is looking for bargain, all-season "performance" tires.
I have 215/45/17s on my P1s and have had no problems with them since I bought them. Definitely a good bargain for some great tires.
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Old 04-15-2003, 02:18 PM   #8
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thanks for the review, sounds good.

i have to admit feeling a little silly looking for all season tires just as i get ready to put my summer wheels back on.
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