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Old 04-20-2001, 12:28 PM   #1
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Lightbulb Rear Fog Light Kit

Hey everyone!

I made a new mod for the RS. It's a rear fog light, just like on expensive european cars.
It's essentially an extra tail light (red) which is activated when the fog lights are turned on.
This helps the people behind you see your car better in bad weather. It's the same idea as the 3rd brake light... it's better visibility/safety.

I have the prototype made and it's working excellently. I plan to make a beta soon to be tested in another's car. I figure by the 30th (or soon after) I can start producing them.

The kit includes all wires, instructions w/pics, relay, red bulb, and bulb socket.

All you need for the install is a philips screwdriver, pliers, and about 5 minutes. No permanent modifications are made to the car and it is completely reversable. No wires or plastic get cut, you will not need a splicing tool either!

I'm soooo excited about this! It works awesome and is a snap to install.

Any questions are welcome here.
Also if you'd like you can pre-order (no obligation), I'll put you at the top of the order list. Price is $45 shipped (usa).

Thanks!
giulio 98RS

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I am posting here because this is a purely dress-up/style subject. If it were in the classifieds it would never get read.

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Old 04-20-2001, 02:26 PM   #2
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wait, so you have a constant fog shooting in anyone's eyes that's following you? Is that legal?
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Old 04-20-2001, 02:44 PM   #3
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It's only a fog light in name. Haven't you seen European cars that look like they've got faulty wiring? One tail light is really bright all of the time, like it's shorted out? I've seen Audis, Porsches, BMWs, etc. It's a red light that is slightly brighter than the brake lights and it turns on with the fog lights. Normal people only run fog lights when there is fog. On the Autobahn there are huge wrecks due to dense fog where people can't see the car in front of them. These lights help.
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Old 04-20-2001, 02:47 PM   #4
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G man... What ever happened to that intake you were working on with my undershield?

(free bump to top of forum...)

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Old 04-20-2001, 02:48 PM   #5
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Is that like on the skyline where one backup light is white and the other is red? I always though that was wierd, like lights on a boat.
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Old 04-20-2001, 02:49 PM   #6
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Thank you horatio. Well said! I guess my first paragraph didnt explain it well enough.

The red is slightly 'hotter' than the normal tail light. it's almost pinkish.
I never seen the skyline's. I am using the driver side turn signal area, with a red bulb. so even if you have clear turn signals in the back you're OK.
And since yellow lense does not block red, it's nice and bright!

I'll have pics up in the morning.

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ndmore,
I didnt touch yours, i experimented with mine. If you'd like it back you're welcome to it. Or you can have mine which is modded. I never used any equipment to test the temps... but i noticed all the wind kept the engine clean and dust free! haha
If you want either one to play with let me know! Thanks again btw!

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Old 04-20-2001, 02:54 PM   #7
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The rear fog light is standard on all Subarus sold here..
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Old 04-21-2001, 02:36 AM   #8
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pics pics pics

Oh the last time I seen one in action on a vw at a show nothing beats that crazy glow it gives off. Very safe though and some cars come stock with them in US so its not illegal like those dumb asses in the JAGs that always leave them on when its a clear night ahhh rich people
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Old 04-24-2001, 09:14 AM   #9
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Here are some pics. I modded my rear lights, they aren't as brilliant as normal (neither am i some would say). I was gonna photochop it to look stock but i don't think anyone would appreciate that. I'll try to get pics on stock rear lights by the end of the week.

<nobr><img src="http://www.universeg.com/impreza/garfl/media/rear_off.jpg" height=240 width=320 border=2><img src="http://www.universeg.com/impreza/garfl/media/rear_on.jpg" height=240 width=320 border=2>

<img src="http://www.universeg.com/impreza/garfl/media/qtr_off.jpg" height=240 width=320 border=2><img src="http://www.universeg.com/impreza/garfl/media/qtr_on.jpg" height=240 width=320 border=2></nobr>

Thanks everyone!
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Old 04-24-2001, 11:20 AM   #10
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i have seen impreza pics (and other euro autos) with a rear foglight that is under the rear bumper, kind of opposite of where the muffler tip is. they look preety trick, i ahve seen websites that sell kits but i don't remember the websites.

but good job on the DIY. looks cool.
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Old 04-24-2001, 06:03 PM   #11
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I'd have to think that the higher these lights are mounted, the better. Drivers approaching from the rear are more likely to see lights at eye level... hence the introduction of the eye level third brake light long ago.
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Old 04-24-2001, 06:05 PM   #12
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Sorry I meant to say these lights should be mounted higher than the underside of the rear bumper as some kits might have them.
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Old 04-24-2001, 08:34 PM   #13
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Just as an FYI here is a thread that is from a while ago when a vendor was talking about getting some rear fogs:
http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/Foru...ML/000155.html

Peaty

I for one like the idea if they are used properly, I don't run with my fogs unless it's bad weather myself.
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Old 04-25-2001, 06:34 AM   #14
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soob, thanks!
I have only seen stock rear fog lights mounted on the driver side (where our muffler is). That would probably cost a bunch more too. The wiring has to be weather protected, and you'd need a new lamp fixture.

Billy,
Correct. I'm trying to follow convention , too.

Using the stock cluster does 3 things:
1) Less expensive. Don't need a new housing or weatherproof wiring.
2) Easier to install. No creeper neccessary.
3) Follows convention. It will look 'normal' when on

Thanks for the link peaty. There is no switch with my kit. just 3 wire taps, a relay, and some wires. I really made it simple (and simplest is usually the best). They are automatic... going on with the stock fog lights.

You'll notice in my pics above that my headlights are always off. I modded the front fogs to be on with the sidemarkers.
This demonstrates that indeed this kits is keyed off the fog lights and not a workaround. It's the real deal- plain and simple.

Thanks,
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Old 04-25-2001, 09:11 AM   #15
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Sounds cool to me, I bet its teh same with the wrx, just tap into the fog light switch and then I guess run wire back to the rear? hmm, time to screw up the wrx again....
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Old 04-25-2001, 10:04 AM   #16
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i dont use the fog light switch. i use a wire that comes from the fog light relay under the dash. it's the same feed that tells the front fog lights to turn on (the switch doesnt really do the work- it tells a relay to tell another relay which gives the power to the bulbs... so you dont have 200 watts runnin to that switch haha). it's pretty complicated, all the checks and safeties built into the system. But all you have to worry about is one wire, it's easy to find too (though i never looked at a wrx before).
The wire i run to the rear carries under 2 amps. its simply a signal, not power supply. And it's fuse protected too
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Old 04-25-2001, 10:09 AM   #17
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<ehem...>
RICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 04-25-2001, 10:12 AM   #18
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These rear fogs are so cool. I have mine on almost all the time (with a separate switch). They are really visible in mist/fog/heavy rain/sleet, etc. And they keep freeway tailgaters at a distance. Here in Australia they come standard in all WRXs, and almost all Subarus, I think
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Old 04-26-2001, 03:04 PM   #19
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I found a problem and fixed it.
The new socket was interferring with the stock turn signal (ts) lamp. When you re-insert the ts lamp socket the lamp would rub against the new socket. Which is ok, becuase it clears when fully inserted.
But... if you turn while inserting the lamp will screw off and fall into the ts housing. It took me an hour last night to fish out the lamp! I finally grew some brains and used masking tape on a screwdriver

I decided to include a smaller replacement lamp for the ts. It clears the fog light socket and avoids the mentioned problem. Unfortunately, they are $5 each so i have to include that cost.

btw, i set up a section at my site for this. http://www.universeg.com/impreza/garfl

I named it 'garfl'. A close second was 'floaba' (for lack of a better acronym) haha

Thanks,
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Old 05-12-2001, 07:48 PM   #20
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Just wondering if you are good to go yet with sending any kits out? I've sourced the OEM rear fog lamp switch and will order it if you're shipping (or will be shipping eventually)

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