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Old 04-17-2003, 03:42 AM   #1
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Question Track Day Tire Suggestions

I posted over in moter sports but thought i'd cross post here too.

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Old 04-17-2003, 09:30 AM   #2
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Falken Azenis.

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Old 04-17-2003, 10:01 AM   #3
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Azenis will overheat and get greasy at a track day, especially if you run a lot of laps or it is very warm - they are designed for the type of loads seen in an autocross, not on the track

I agree with patrick - if you are didicating a set of tires to track/autocross, there is no reason not to get R compounds - especially since your mods will already push you into a class that allows them for autoX.
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Old 04-17-2003, 10:10 AM   #4
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Azenis will overheat and get greasy at a track day, especially if you run a lot of laps or it is very warm - they are designed for the type of loads seen in an autocross, not on the track
They will get greasy if you overdrive them, just like R-tires will. Take care of them, learn to drive smoothly and they will last longer.

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I agree with patrick - if you are didicating a set of tires to track/autocross, there is no reason not to get R compounds - especially since your mods will already push you into a class that allows them for autoX.
R-tires are expensive and wear out quickly. Ever driven Kuhmo R-tires? They get just as greasy and give up on you just as soon as Falkens do if you push them. Also, street tires are a much better to learn on, they dont mask your mistakes like R-tires do.

there is a reason why around 75% of cars at an HPDE run Falkens. Cheap and sticky.
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Old 04-17-2003, 10:49 AM   #5
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love my Toyo RA-1's. I could not imagine running anything else. They are not shaved, have help up well, and if you buy them from a good tire shop they will turn them for you after a couple events to get the most wear possible.

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Old 04-17-2003, 12:32 PM   #6
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Thanks for thie info guys. I think i'll go with my S03's for the first HPDE event since they are patched from the inside and spend the money on the Stoptech stage 2 brake upgrade. Then I'll see if I can trade my Stock WRX wheels with 4K miles for some 16x7 '98-'01 RS Wheels so i can run 225/50's better. From the replies so far it sounds like Falken Azenis are the way to go since they will last longer and are less expensive than R compounds.


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Old 04-18-2003, 12:58 PM   #7
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Old 04-18-2003, 07:56 PM   #8
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I haven't done a track day before but just thought I would throw this out there for you to think about....my azenis get greasy when autocrossing. Keep in mind we have a huge concrete site and ambient temps get up in the 90s and 100s (average lap times are between 45 and 75 seconds depending on layout). Also, I don't spray them down between runs but I think I will start doing so in the future.

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I've had great track days with Azenis and S-03s. I'd say Azenis probably last longer and have better dry grip than the S-03s, but definetely do not get R-compound tires until you have a few track days under your belt.
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Dude, don't get just S03's for track days... the outer tread blocks aren't large enough to take the punishment. Especially if you're not running 2+ degrees of negative camber in the front. Azenis are probably the way to go for a cheap tire that you can use on the street and still have good grip on the track and they can take punishment.

Personally I'm using A032R on the street and on the track. I had mine up at Mid Ohio a couple weeks ago and will again in a couple weeks. They hold up great. Not the stickiest tire but my goal was a decent tire I could drive everywhere. My rears actually look worse than the fronts because I'm running around 2.5 negative in the front and the car was rotating very easily on corner entry.

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Old 04-19-2003, 09:27 PM   #11
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Avoid S03s on track days...I have seen them first hand chunk up bad on one track day on my Brother's Porsche and friend's S4... They are not great tires on the Track.
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