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Old 04-19-2003, 09:00 PM   #1
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sorry the vid is bad quality
but here ya go

STi vs. SRT4 video

edit: sorry, i just saw this was posted on another thread.
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Old 04-19-2003, 09:28 PM   #2
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Poor SRT-4!
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Old 04-19-2003, 09:48 PM   #3
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haha
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Old 04-19-2003, 09:52 PM   #4
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lol, you people, stop ripping my movie.

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Old 04-19-2003, 10:54 PM   #5
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What was the guy in the SRT thinking? Was he confused and though he was racing a civic or something? Heh.
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Old 04-19-2003, 10:55 PM   #6
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i don't think that's anything to be proud of...

i mean come on, the STi costs so much more...

but nice video!
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Old 04-20-2003, 12:40 AM   #7
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I don't care what my eyes are telling me....

teh SRT4 is still faster
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Old 04-20-2003, 02:26 AM   #8
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The Neon community is gonna be upset!!
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Old 04-20-2003, 02:52 AM   #9
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anybody catch the ET of either?
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Old 04-20-2003, 03:30 AM   #10
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STi was a 8.7, no idea what the neon was.. i'd have to say 9's.

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Old 04-20-2003, 04:28 AM   #11
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Old 04-20-2003, 05:17 AM   #12
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towards the end of the video the announcer says something like:
- "0.7... that's not a 1.9 second ??? ...." what was he referring to?

WOW! that was a very quick take-off for a stock car!!!
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Old 04-20-2003, 07:17 AM   #13
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STi was a 8.7,
-Ryan
BWAHAHAHAHAAHHAA! I have chime in and stick up for my new Turbo Dodge brethren!

My 13 year old, 3200 lb $1500 Dodge Spirit ran an 8.7@84 1/8th (13.43@104.7 1/4) yesterday on the stock turbo at only 13 psi boost (about 260 whp trim) and weak 2.15 60 ft!

The bad news (for some) is the SRT has alot more potential than my old school Dodge

http://mysite.verizon.net/res1elpe/mvc-877v.mpg

http://mysite.verizon.net/res1elpe/mvc-879f.jpg

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Old 04-20-2003, 07:21 AM   #14
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Poor SRT-4!
This has been harped on many times, but you can buy an SRT-4 for under $19,000!

Spend a few grand on mods (under warranty of course ) and that SRT will be in the 12's at the strip on slicks and a terror to just about anything on the street.

AWD will still have the advantage for standing starts on street tires.

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Old 04-20-2003, 09:03 AM   #15
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All that is true, Larry, but don't forget that the STi guy hasn't started modding his car, yet.

Those who want to remain stock will find that video rather interesting, and humorous, I daresay. Modders don't really care much, because they're going to alter their car's performance parameters anyhow.

The STi has more horsepower and torque than the SRT-4, in addition to having all wheel drive. That the Neon got the whomping it got doesn't surprise me. I just want to know who in the heck has an STi to be able to go drag racing with it?

I repeat my standard caveat...there's always something faster.

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Old 04-20-2003, 09:57 AM   #16
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Spend a few grand on mods (under warranty of course ) and that SRT will be in the 12's at the strip on slicks and a terror to just about anything on the street.
Are you talking about Dodge/Mopar staged power packages for the SRT-4?
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Old 04-20-2003, 10:01 AM   #17
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Spend a few grand on mods (under warranty of course ) and that SRT will be in the 12's at the strip on slicks and a terror to just about anything on the street.

AWD will still have the advantage for standing starts on street tires.

Larry
I agree with you it can be a fast drag racer with slicks, but in real world conditions...90% of new owners will be using them on the street. Here they will be getting pulled over for tire screeching launches or abusive high end pulls on the highway, exceeding the speed limit of course.
However, what happens when rain hits the ground? It'll be as slow as the non-turbo neon next to them if not slower due to the low torque.
What happens when too much power/torque on a light FWD car is coupled with trying to keep a fast line in a corner? It'll understeer like a SOB.

I don't deny the fact I would purchase one if I had the additional $ to spend, but I would only drag race it. Slicks and all. It would be a fun ride, considerably inexpensive, easy to gut throw a cage in and repair.
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Old 04-20-2003, 01:39 PM   #18
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This has been harped on many times, but you can buy an SRT-4 for under $19,000!

It's overpriced.

If the idea is to make an fwd drag car, at least start with a real car - RSX, VW, etc..
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Old 04-20-2003, 07:03 PM   #19
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It's overpriced.

If the idea is to make an fwd drag car, at least start with a real car - RSX, VW, etc..
??. how is it overpriced???
Personally, I think SRT4 is the performance value leader of the
price bracket... Well, maybe VW GTI 1.8t could come close in term
of mod potential...
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Old 04-20-2003, 07:25 PM   #20
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All that is true, Larry, but don't forget that the STi guy hasn't started modding his car, yet.
But....he doesnt have nay money left for mods after his $30k purchase! LOL!

In all seriousness, the STi is obviously a kick butt car. I really like them. Heck, I like the WRX and almost bought one.
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Old 04-20-2003, 07:28 PM   #21
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I agree with you it can be a fast drag racer with slicks, but in real world conditions...90% of new owners will be using them on the street.
90% of the time, races dont start from a standstill anyway!

Usually, its two guys who happen upon each other on the street and the AWD is a handicap. Ive had a few pals with AWD DSM's and on the street in typical "street encounters" (i.e. non staged standing start drags on some desolate road) my low 14 second land barge Maxima was dead even (or even walked away) from mid 13 second AWDs.

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However, what happens when rain hits the ground
It would be quite foolish to drive any car fast in the rain dont you think? I dont care if youve got 8 wheel drive or 2 wheel drive, if the coefficient of friction between your tires and the road is close to zero it makes no difference.
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Old 04-20-2003, 07:32 PM   #22
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If the idea is to make an fwd drag car, at least start with a real car - RSX, VW, etc..
LOL!

What about an old Turbo Dodge? If you are cheap (like me) they are hard to beat in bang for the buck.
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But....he doesnt have nay money left for mods after his $30k purchase! LOL!

In all seriousness, the STi is obviously a kick butt car. I really like them. Heck, I like the WRX and almost bought one.
Just wondering... how much would it cost to buy 3 differentials
with f/r torque split control, HID, IC sprayer, BBS wheels etc etc.
add that to the installation labor to the SRT-4...

It might not be more than 10k worth.. but it should be close
right?
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Old 04-20-2003, 08:22 PM   #24
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Just wondering... how much would it cost to buy 3 differentials
with f/r torque split control, HID, IC sprayer, BBS wheels etc etc.
add that to the installation labor to the SRT-4...

It might not be more than 10k worth.. but it should be close
right?
Why do you need all that stuff?

We are talking about a "typical street encounter"! None of that stuff will really help in that situation. Were talking bang for the buck!

The IC sprayer isnt needed on a properly sized and designed IC system. I suspect the reason for it on the Subies is that the top mount gets poor airflow.

I will give you the BBS wheels though as they look sweet!
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Why do you need all that stuff?

We are talking about a "typical street encounter"! None of that stuff will really help in that situation. Were talking bang for the buck!

The IC sprayer isnt needed on a properly sized and designed IC system. I suspect the reason for it on the Subies is that the top mount gets poor airflow.

I will give you the BBS wheels though as they look sweet!
Doesn't EVO's FMIC come with IC spayer as well?
But I do agree with you.. AWD is more like a handicap with
"street encounters"...
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