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Old 04-19-2003, 10:14 PM   #1
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Talking So I need to buy new brakes. Anyone wanna buy some stuff?

Hola.

Last night the ever-fun Mr. North Ursalia dropped by for pizza, a movie and an evaluation of my pulsing front brake problem. A few good folks told me that my Porterfield R4-S pads were transferring material onto my rotors--which supposedly is normal, but I apparently wasn't braking hard enough to dissipate it. (Since I rarely race and I'm usually docile... compared to you nuts, anyway. )

Well, long story short, it looks like my rotors are warped. Brian pointed it out and I could feel it myself. Definitely some uneven surface, there, up front. I've had them resurfaced once already. Twice would probably kill 'em. These are FrozenRotors.com's cryo-treated Brembo discs, too. Bummer.

So. I decided to just save up and buy some WRX front and Legacy H-6 rear discs and caliper brackets, and pick a full set of less-aggressive pads. Exeter sells these upgrades for we GC guys for about $410, total. So, I'm thinkin' of things I have that I can clear out of my garage space:

- OEM RS suspension, including four struts, four springs, and one 13mm rear swaybar with bushings

- Four 15" Legacy steel wheels, with Nokian Hakkapeliitta 1 tires (P195/65-R15) tires mounted, no studs. They just finished off their third winter. Still grippy, but obviously not as good as new tires.

- My Porterfield pads. I still have my OEMs which I can use if need be.


Maybe it's just my luck. A ton of people have the R4-S pads and haven't had problems. It's just my mojo, I guess. I'll start taking offers for now I guess on the suspension and wheels/tires (which, no, I won't separate, and no I prefer not to ship). The wheels won't clear the new WRX/H-6 brake combo, anyway.

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Old 04-19-2003, 10:17 PM   #2
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Dibs on the suspension...what are you looking to get for them?

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Old 04-19-2003, 10:20 PM   #3
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I was hoping you'd answer. I was going to contact you, Sean, but you beat me to it!

Eh, as much as I can get, I guess. I'd love to just donate them to you and your racing cause, but I'm too broke to do that, at this time. Christine and I are going to be hashing out budgets now that I'm working again. Basically if I sell a bunch of stuff, I should just about break even on the new brakes, so I shouldn't have to take much money out, myself.

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Old 04-21-2003, 09:10 AM   #4
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How much are you looking for the porterfields?

How many miles on them?
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Old 04-21-2003, 12:01 PM   #5
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24,097 miles by my count.

They were a hair short of $200 brand new for the set of four from Exeter. I've been pretty easy on them. I really don't know what to charge... You're the second person to ask so far, so we'll see what kinds of offers I get and then I'll make up my mind!

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Old 04-21-2003, 12:14 PM   #6
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I think I'll pass anyways...that's a few miles more than I was hoping...

Good luck, thanks anyways.

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Old 04-21-2003, 12:18 PM   #7
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"A few," huh? Somebody's being modest.

No sweat man. I put them on last summer... I just drive a lot. *shrug*

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Old 04-21-2003, 01:52 PM   #8
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Dibs on the warped rotors !

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Old 04-21-2003, 03:16 PM   #9
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Why assume the rotors are past turning? A quick measuring by yourself or any machine shop will tell you if they're going to be above spec after another turning. That would cost you $10 or so, use the stock pads you still have and you're done.

Considering you call yourself a mild driver (braker), why would you want to spend more money on an "upgrade" that won't help you at all?

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Old 04-21-2003, 03:34 PM   #10
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Because they have already warped once and been turned once... I think it's time to throw them in the cart and turn over your nine pence .


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Old 04-21-2003, 05:26 PM   #11
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Hmmm, that's frustrating, but considering the cost that was spent to cyro them, I'd still consider reusing them. Still, that doesn't explain the need to get new calipers front and rear.

Won't pedal travel increase with this mod unless you also upgrade the master cylinder? These are bigger calipers so they probably push more fluid. So pedal feel could be worse after this mod.

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Old 04-21-2003, 05:31 PM   #12
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Calipers remain the same, the brackets for them and the rotors are the only items changed (unless he goes nuts and gets 4 pots ). Chris is just afraid of his pads !


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Old 04-21-2003, 08:48 PM   #13
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Ahh, my bad. Carry on, nothing to see here.
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Old 04-21-2003, 11:42 PM   #14
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Such witty banter goin' on in my thread whilst I'm away....


I do believe the rotors are beyond help. I turned them the once at Exeter and it helped, but the problem resurfaced (pun intended!) and now I just don't think there's much I can do. I dunno.

As for going bigger, well the WRX/H-6 upgrade is popular for we GC guys, it dissipates heat better and all that good stuff. No, Brian, I am NOT buying 4-pots. If I did, I'd get the 2-pot rears, too. And I haven't the cash for that kind of upgrade!!!

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Old 04-22-2003, 12:03 AM   #15
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C'mon... all the cool kids are doing it


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Old 04-22-2003, 12:07 AM   #16
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Riiiiiiiiiight.

I dunno man, the 4-pots are nice, but maybe there's some meaning behind all the overseas guys ditching the 4-pots on their GC STi cars in favor of bigger kits, like ScoobySport's or Prodrive or something. I really like Scoobysport/Rallyperformance's 16" brake kit, the AP/Brembo one. Quite nice.

The only rear "upgrade" they have, though, are new pads and rotors. Doesn't seem to help much with the whole "let's try to even out the brake bias" argument, though. Too bad it's not a complete f/r set. THAT would be worth saving up for.
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Old 04-24-2003, 12:44 AM   #17
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TTT

Sean, what's the deal man?


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