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Old 04-21-2003, 10:15 AM   #1
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Default So, what is left to know?

We know the HP/Torque, engine displacement , amount of boost/turbo, the options, the looks, the weight, the price ...

What else don't we know??

I had complained about "not knowing enough" and getting "bored of the waiting" about a month ago. But now, I can't think of anything else I need to know (other then how I'm gonna pay for this thing)

What else are we waiting on?
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Old 04-21-2003, 10:50 AM   #2
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Modability. Can the ECU be tweaked to get more HP out of the thing. And if so when will the aftermarket have this stuff available.
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Old 04-21-2003, 10:56 AM   #3
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1) How the seats compare to the Krispy Kreme Swimsuit Model seats of the 04 WRX.

2) We know the components, but don't really know about how they will translate to performance.

3) Is the shiftlight adjustable? Can it be turned off? If not, can at least the beep be turned off?

4) What will the non-gold wheels look like?

5) Will the paint be improved for '04?

6) The microsite shows blu carpet in the still shots, but charcola carpet in the 360 degree interior shot. Will there be and option?

7) It has been rumored that the Sti will have a couple more standard goodies that have not been advertised.

8) Does its computer really have a data logger of sorts such that a service man can access it and descover how you have been driving the ar?
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Old 04-21-2003, 10:57 AM   #4
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Pretty much all thats left is torque curve, dyno plots, actual acceration times that owners get, and how much power the engine and drivetrain can reliably take.

Oh and if the dealers will have sti floormats as an option or not

Metoo the answer to 3. is yes its adjustable, but I dont know if it can be turned off. You could always set it as high as possible and not redline though.
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Old 04-21-2003, 11:00 AM   #5
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Gas mileage and insurance costs.

Those have been my two biggest concerns considering the vehicle would be my everyday car.
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Old 04-21-2003, 11:04 AM   #6
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aren't we forgetting the most important thing...

RELEASE DATE!!
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Old 04-21-2003, 11:12 AM   #7
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I may have missed it, but are we confirmed on the turbo and the pre-cat?
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Old 04-21-2003, 11:15 AM   #8
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I may have missed it, but are we confirmed on the turbo and the pre-cat?
Oh yeah that too. I believe someone confirmed no pre cat but as for the turbo afaik the only thing that is certain is that it uses the RF55 housing(same as vf30/34) But no one is positive as to what is inside the housing yet.
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Old 04-21-2003, 11:33 AM   #9
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If the Electronic throttle is calibrated correctly. Hope it doesn't feel like Audi (initial lag).
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Old 04-21-2003, 11:46 AM   #10
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1. Will it have a spoiler "delete" option from the factory, or at least able down size to a WRX spoiler?

2. Will it have a factory boost gauge?
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Old 04-21-2003, 11:49 AM   #11
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I'd like to know whether DeltaDash and (more importantly) DeltaECU work with the USDM STi's ECU. If not, then we're back to the tuning Dark Ages (which is where WRX tuning was 2 years ago and where USDM EVO tuning is now), resorting to SAFC or piggyback and a boost controller.

I'd also like to know Subaru's designation for the STi engine and whether it differs from the engine in the new Forester XT and Baja Turbo. For example, the current USDM WRX engine is designated as EJ205 and the current Normally Aspirated 2.5 engine is designated as EJ251.
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Old 04-21-2003, 11:54 AM   #12
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1. Will it have a spoiler "delete" option from the factory, or at least able down size to a WRX spoiler?
the STi wing uses more holes through the trunk, so the wing is not just swappable. I guess the jury is still out if they decide to offer a wing delete or WRX wing option. I'd take either, but would still buy with the wing, if the option isn't available.
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Old 04-21-2003, 12:00 PM   #13
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Modability. Can the ECU be tweaked to get more HP out of the thing. And if so when will the aftermarket have this stuff available.
I talked to Turbo XS awhile ago and they said they are working on a new UTEC for the STi. They are also working on new turbo kits for the STi.
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Old 04-21-2003, 12:07 PM   #14
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the STi wing uses more holes through the trunk, so the wing is not just swappable. I guess the jury is still out if they decide to offer a wing delete or WRX wing option. I'd take either, but would still buy with the wing, if the option isn't available.
I may remove the wing and debadge the car, let the clueless (and the cops) think it's a plain Impreza. That's why I want a white car with silver wheels.

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Old 04-21-2003, 12:14 PM   #15
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If I were buying an STI I would want to know as much as I could about this new motor--quality/sophistication of parts, exact specs, whether it is of comparable quality with the 2 liter STI---I'd want to make sure it is not a dumbed down higher displacement motor. From what we have learned so far I think it looks real good, but it would be very helpful if there were a reputable race engine builder who could get ahold of one and tear it down as part of a project to tweak it, and let folks know what they found. Too bad Subaru doesn't do one of those cut away display motors that you sometimes see at auto shows-maybe they will next year!
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Old 04-21-2003, 12:48 PM   #16
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I may remove the wing and debadge the car, let the clueless (and the cops) think it's a plain Impreza. That's why I want a white car with silver wheels.

X2
That's exactly what I plan to do, but we're probably going to have to trade for or buy a new trunk to do it.
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Old 04-21-2003, 01:10 PM   #17
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Since it is so close to info day

Shimless valves, confirmed

No cat in Uppipe, this has been stated before.

Injector size is 534cc "UJ"

Helps to have USDM spec sheets
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Old 04-21-2003, 01:10 PM   #18
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i want to know how sharp the handling is... at least compared to the new evo and a handful of cars already released.

skid pad, slalom #s, braking distances, and overall feel.

the extra power is nice with the 2.5, but whoever comes out on top between the STi and EVO in said departments is probably going to get my vote.
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Old 04-21-2003, 02:09 PM   #19
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I'd like to know:
Will Subaru of America offer us the same warranty coverage that Subaru UK offers on Prodrive modified cars.

(Sure, the answer is "not a chance in hell", but wasn't that the same answer you'd assume for whether we'd ever get a 300hp STi?)

Second, I'd like to know how much extra scoot the Prodrive Power Pack would give to the STi, and when I could buy it. I have the Prodrive suspension on my RS, and it's very impressive.

Honestly, all the other questions will be answered in about 10 days when the media embargo expires. Get your pre-order in before that happens!
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Old 04-21-2003, 03:04 PM   #20
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the model code/vin ..is it a gdb or somthing new like gdc or did they rev the classfications with the my04 facia change

the engine code number ej25_.. for that matter the one from the forester and baja would be nice too

part numbers and cost for a compleate usdm 6 speed swap

are sti part numbers in the SOA part catalog
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Old 04-21-2003, 03:19 PM   #21
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How about SOA Interest Rate on the STi?
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Old 04-21-2003, 03:20 PM   #22
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2) We know the components, but don't really know about how they will translate to performance.
Specifically, more info on the block construction, crank, rods, piston metallurgy.

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3) Is the shiftlight adjustable? Can it be turned off? If not, can at least the beep be turned off?
Yes, it is adjustable.

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4) What will the non-gold wheels look like?
See SOA survey site.

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5) Will the paint be improved for '04?
It will be the usual Subaru paint.

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6) The microsite shows blu carpet in the still shots, but charcola carpet in the 360 degree interior shot. Will there be and option?
There are no options.
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Old 04-21-2003, 03:31 PM   #23
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the model code/vin ..is it a gdb or somthing new like gdc or did they rev the classfications with the my04 facia change
The internal project codes are even cooler to know. For example, the bug-eye was "44S". The new car has a lower number! I believe the SWRT site made mention of the 44S back in the day.

Another cool thing to know would be the unofficial code name for the USDM STi. I doubt they'll ever publically mention it. Hint: this car was aimed at beating the USDM EVO....

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the engine code number ej25_.. for that matter the one from the forester and baja would be nice too
I should clarify that when I said before "it is not an Ej25" is that as far as I knew the engine didn't have a new designation allocated yet. It might be an EJ25x, but who knows. I vote for EJ25T.

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are sti part numbers in the SOA part catalog
A dealer parts guy has posted already that they are.

On the drive by wire question: I believe the idea is that it can provide even better throttle response than a mechanical system.

Other stuff we'd like to know:

A HP/torque curve would be great.
A boost curve.
More details on operation of DCCD including how the auto mode works.

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