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Old 04-21-2003, 11:02 PM   #1
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Default Threw a CEL today, how worried should I be?

As I was comming home today, my car threw a solid CEL. It's very strange since the car drives and sounds fine. It starts up normally, and there's no misfires.

The only thing I can think of is the oil change I did two weeks ago, and I overfilled it a little bit. I also took out the silencer out of my exhause earlier this month. I installed the slience back in, but the CEL remains. I've done nothing irratic or abused the car. Does the CEL dissapear once the problem is fixed, or does it stay on until someone clears it? How do you clear this thing?

My first question is, is this safe to drive to work tommorrow? I can't get stuck in traffic and have the car die on me. I don't know if I need to tow this thing to the dealer...

Thanks for everything in advance.
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Old 04-21-2003, 11:06 PM   #2
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Get the code pulled. Usually any auto parts place can pull it.

Until you know what the code is, we can't really help you.
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Old 04-22-2003, 12:43 AM   #3
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blinking CEL = bad, the sort of CEL you got is not that bad. Some CEL's go out after driveing the car for 3 or 4 times. I've had a couple of those, typically if I hit rev limit or get a little misfire. Don't worry unless it stays, but get it pulled for safety sake.

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Old 04-22-2003, 12:34 PM   #4
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Okay, so I rented a OBDII at a local store, and it gave me two codes:

P0440
EVAP EMMISSION CONTROL SYSTEM MALFUNCTION

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P0000


The second code was just P0000, and it didn't say anything. So what does this mean? I tried erasing the codes on the OBDII, but it didn't work. How serious is this and how do I get rid of it?

Thanks!
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Old 04-22-2003, 12:41 PM   #5
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P0000 just means their are no codes. OBDII stores 3 codes, 1 active and 2 pending, P0000 just means their are no pending codes.

I'm not 100% sure but the P0440 Evap code, I think, means that your gas cap is not sealed correctly. Check it..
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Old 04-22-2003, 12:51 PM   #6
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Yup. Gas cap was not tight. Strange, as I drove it for 280miles since my last refuel. I still can't seem to get rid of the CEL through the OBD II, though. Do I need to bring it into the dealership? Should the CEL dissapear when I re-tighten my gas cap? How do I make this CEL dissapear?

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Old 04-22-2003, 01:11 PM   #7
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That CEL should just disapear after 3-4 drives plus a fill up. If it does not just get the car checked at the dealer. Watch out, dealers love to charge $40 to clear codes.

Cheers

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Old 04-22-2003, 01:11 PM   #8
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If it persists, get the dealer to check the gas tank seal.

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Old 04-23-2003, 01:54 AM   #9
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reset your ECU. unplug your battery for about 5 minutes... then start the car and let it idle until it's warm. Make sure the car is cold on start up. Then start the car again and drive it around. Your CEL should go away.

this is a good thing to know cause sometimes the CEL comes on even when there is a drastic temperature change outside. kinda funny cause most cars do this and the owners let them stay on the life of the car.
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Old 04-23-2003, 12:20 PM   #10
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I've gotten the same P0440 CEL in my '00 RS twice now in the past month. Autozone pulled and cleared both for me for free. Both of them came on when I was under a quarter tank of gas left, so from now on I'm just not going to let it go past 1/4. If it does come back though, I'll have it checked out. For now, my car runs and drive fine with or without the light though...
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