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Old 02-16-2001, 10:12 AM   #1
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Post Installation of STi V5 suspension

I've really been considering purchasing the STi V5 suspension, but I'm unsure about installation.
How many hours labor would it take a professional to do it?
How many hours would it take a newbie to do it?

The parts are less than $500 so if I can get it installed for a good deal I go that route. If we're talking $200+ for installation I may do it myself.

Any suggestions?

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Old 02-16-2001, 11:31 AM   #2
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professional = $250-500 seems to be the going rate, plus you should get it aligned. (another $60-120 there.)

DIY rookie = 5-8 hours, with equally inexperienced help. The center nut on the stock strut rod is the hardest-- Subaru sells a tool just to get it off, and someone in the MWIC welded up their own instead. It's a bugger.
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Old 02-16-2001, 01:06 PM   #3
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But what about bleeding out the brake lines?
Did you do that yourself as well?

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Old 02-16-2001, 01:35 PM   #4
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It's a 19mm socket, not 17mm. & you do need an alignment afterwards because like Shawn pointed out, you've messed with the camber.
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Old 02-16-2001, 01:42 PM   #5
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I maxed out my negative camber and didn't need an alignment. Yes I bled the brake myself, (start at the front and move back, not opposite)..we did it backwards and I got a limp pedal due to it...to the floor baby. We re-bled from the front to back and now its all good.
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Old 02-16-2001, 01:44 PM   #6
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Ridin Low, its a 19mm for the strut bolts on the uprights, its a 17mm for the strut shaft nut.
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Old 02-16-2001, 03:01 PM   #7
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I dont remember what size socket I used but it was on the end of my air gun, and it zipped the nut right off, no need for a 6mm hex wrench hehe.

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Old 02-16-2001, 03:04 PM   #8
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StiShawn, most of the time when you mess with camber, you change the toe. So it also needs to be adjusted. Thats why the procedure for doing is an alingment is as follows.

Always start in the rear, with rear Camber if adjustable, then do Toe.

Go to the front, if adjustable you Do Camber, Caster then toe.

just a heads up

Took me 3 hours, to install my suspension, and bleed the brakes, by myself. But I have the added benifit of a heated shop, lift, air tools, and the know how. I would charge, around 250 w/alingment, to do the install, on the side of course.
now if someone had a preassembled set, 150 bucks w/align. But I have no time ,

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Old 02-16-2001, 04:24 PM   #9
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I've done suspensions before but only the RS once. It took me by myself about 4 hrs with air tools and such. I did the cut the tab short cut so I didn't have to bleed the brakes. I thought it was relatively easy, but make sure to soak all the bottom strut bolts overnight if possible with some sort of penetrating oil. I didn't have any problems removing any of them after that. Here is a link to my pics: http://www.azscooby.com/mods/AZScooby/Peaty/p1.shtml

If you were talking about the top center strut bolt that was a 17MM not 19mm. I have a pass through socket set that makes the job a little easier but an offset box should work just fine too.

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Old 02-16-2001, 11:17 PM   #10
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I'm not worried about my future suspension install.
I'll just hold a "Suspension install party", and supply beer to the drunken mob...ahem..I mean skilled profesionals
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Old 02-17-2001, 12:11 AM   #11
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all you need is an offset box end wrench (17mm) and a 6mm allen wrecnh. and two sets of hands.

we did two suspension installs with one manual spring compresor and no air tools in about 8 hours, though we were taking a few beer breaks.
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Old 02-17-2001, 12:26 AM   #12
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10th Warrior helped me do mine, its a pain in the ass, but do-able. Make sure you have metric wrenches and sockets, a spring compressor, pliers and jackstands. Plus 2-3 people. Svae your self the money, do it yourself. I didnt need an alignment afterwards, all your changing is the camber of the wheel, your toe and caster should remain as was.
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Old 02-17-2001, 04:38 AM   #13
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yeah, i had never done anything major before, but i had no problem with this. I had a couple helpers, and after a bit, got a 2ft. breaker bar, and it was good from there.
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Old 02-17-2001, 04:51 PM   #14
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I'll just hold a "Suspension install party", and supply beer to the drunken mob...ahem..I mean skilled profesionals
sounds like shawn's instalation

we used a cheater bar to get the bottom bolts loose. i know its bad, and i did break a rachet, but that's why you do it with garunteed for life stuff
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Old 02-18-2001, 10:15 PM   #15
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When I installed my v5 suspension it took 52 minutes from wheels on, to wheels back on again. That includes a brake bleed, none of that cheating cutting the mount bit.
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Old 02-19-2001, 10:58 AM   #16
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We did 2 cars at the same time remember...no air tools, no lift..and no tab cutting either.
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Old 02-19-2001, 11:55 AM   #17
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i still have trouble believing the 52 min story.. it took a good 10 min to get the rear strut top bolts undone + all the time compressing + uncompressing the springs

to get the strut top nut off i ened up using a pipe wrench with a 17mm socket and a 6mm allen wrench+pipe

only thing i see missing from the above is a torque wrench subaru bolts are crappy...

3 computer (nonautomotive types)guys took about 6 hrs w/cutting break clips to do one car next time 3-4hrs or less... had to do a couple of struts twice

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Old 02-19-2001, 06:53 PM   #18
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Yeah right, 52 mins,no way, or did it take you 52 minutes to figure out ya did it wrong.Not flaming you just dont believe it.
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Old 02-19-2001, 07:01 PM   #19
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What do you want him to do, videotape him doing another suspension?
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Old 02-19-2001, 09:58 PM   #20
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If you dont believe me, ask 8complex and Donnie. They did the install with me. We had air tools, 3 people, no spring compressors and the means to keep all four wheels off the ground at once. Helped that this was like the 6th install Donnie had done.

edit: Actually we were somewhat annoyed we didnt make the 45min WRC stage mark.


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Old 02-19-2001, 10:21 PM   #21
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For those who dont believe...
here is the thread about the install http://www.i-club.com/ubb-files/Arch...-005022-2.html

In the archieve so I *cant* have edited it.
Posted oct 6 4:13pm
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Old 02-20-2001, 12:55 AM   #22
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52 minutes huh? Come prove it. Did you 4 spring compressors, or a wall mountes one, and was this on a wagon (much easier to work on).....I just cant beleive that claim of under an hour.
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Ok OK ok I believe it,,damn thats fast.
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