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Old 04-24-2003, 01:49 PM   #1
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Question Best winter tires in dirt?

I am considering buying winter tires for my 2.5RS and I would like to be able to throw them on the car for the occasional rally-x event. Can anyone recommend a winter tire that performs well in dirt? I would assume to look for "knobiness" as opposed to the features found in good ice tires.

Any recommendations? I would probably be purchasing the tires on 15in steel rims (these should fit the stock brakes on a 2.5RS, right?)

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Old 04-24-2003, 02:28 PM   #2
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I don't think winter tires are well suited for driving in the dirt in general. I think you will quickly ruin winter tires driving in dirt since the tires become too soft in warm weather.
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Old 04-24-2003, 02:40 PM   #3
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I will be using the tires in the winter primarily. I figure they will have to work better in the dirt than my pos Turanzas, or any other street tire for that matter. They will probably only see 2-3 rally-x events a year, so I am not too worried about them wearing out.
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Old 04-24-2003, 04:25 PM   #4
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I have tried many winter tires, and my favourite so far are the Toyo Garritt HT's, which are almost as sticky on the ice as Nokian Hakka Q's, but handle much better and are H rated.

These are likely too soft for warm wweather racing. That being said, other Nokian winter tires, especially their Hakka 1's (a studdable tire) have a really hard compound. These are not as good on ice (if you don't stud them), so it would be not as good for the winter if you see a lot of ice, but would likely work well in the mud durability-wise.

I would say a good compromise would be the Nokian Hakka NRW. They are an "All Weather Plus" tire, and are really very good on ice and snow, but can go all year. These would probably provide you enough winter grip, but would stand the best chance of lasting through some warm weather punishment.

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Old 04-24-2003, 04:44 PM   #5
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What makes a really good snow and ice tire is not going to help you that much in the mud and dirt and gravel. Other than an open tread look, they (snow/ice and mud/dirt/gravel) do not have a lot in common. (Heck, what makes a great snow tire is not the same as what makes tire good on ice!)

On the other hand just get the best winter tire for your area and go for it! It seems unwise to compromise everyday winter driving for a couple of passes in the dirt.

If you are thinking about a dedicated dirt/ gravel tire. You might want to check with Lachute Subaru in Canada - They do sell used rally tires and rims.

Good luck!

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