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Old 04-19-2003, 12:09 PM   #1
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Installed Tein Wagon Springs today and it looks great, however, i have a clunking from the front of the car.

I had noticed the rear strut tops said "out". Do the fronts say that too?

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Old 04-19-2003, 12:23 PM   #2
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I have that same problem....I have installed the s-tech wagon springs...Front makes really weird clunking over speed bumps. I haven't been able to figure it out. Keep me posted on what you find...I have talked to several people and they say that they are installd properly, keep me posted...
btw, what spring rates are the new wagon specific spring?
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Old 04-19-2003, 05:55 PM   #3
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Didnt DMS coilovers do this too?

I thought you needed solid top mounts (like cusco or mrt mounts)?

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Old 04-19-2003, 06:39 PM   #4
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try tightening the top nut. That was the reason I had clunking with my tein h tech springs.

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Old 04-19-2003, 07:22 PM   #5
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try tightening the top nut. That was the reason I had clunking with my tein h tech springs.

Jay
same here on my prodrives. Tightening the top nut took care of it.
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Old 04-19-2003, 10:30 PM   #6
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had the same problem but I fixed it. Here's are some bolts that you might want to check.

1) top bolts
2) center shaft bolt
3) the bottome 2 19mm bolts that holds the bottom strut tight.

#3 is what caused the "clunk" noise after I installed my Eibach. And spent hours and hours of trying to fix the problem by doing 1 and 2. But when I had new tires to put on, I noticed the 2 bolts were very loose, loose enough that I could twist off with my fingers . It was scary once I figured that out.

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Old 04-19-2003, 11:03 PM   #7
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Thanks guys, I will check those tomorrow.

A: I did use an airgun with all the bolts. I'll go over it again.. But my question has still not been answered..

Q: The rear strut tops/ say "out" on them. I did the fronts first then noticed the rear with the wording on them... Does the front strut tops have an "out" on them?

Thanks!

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Old 04-19-2003, 11:38 PM   #8
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Thanks guys, I will check those tomorrow.

A: I did use an airgun with all the bolts. I'll go over it again.. But my question has still not been answered..

Q: The rear strut tops/ say "out" on them. I did the fronts first then noticed the rear with the wording on them... Does the front strut tops have an "out" on them?

Thanks!
the fronts don't matter because they rotate on the strut assembly. the upper spring seat position matters, however. the middle/biggest hole in the spring seat should be lined up with the 'front' (outside edge) of the strut.

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Old 04-20-2003, 07:47 AM   #9
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I have to go and R&R the front to check those front spring perches.

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Old 04-21-2003, 12:14 AM   #10
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had the same problem but I fixed it. Here's are some bolts that you might want to check.

1) top bolts
2) center shaft bolt
3) the bottome 2 19mm bolts that holds the bottom strut tight.

#3 is what caused the "clunk" noise after I installed my Eibach. And spent hours and hours of trying to fix the problem by doing 1 and 2. But when I had new tires to put on, I noticed the 2 bolts were very loose, loose enough that I could twist off with my fingers . It was scary once I figured that out.

jonathan

I had #3 too after installing prodrive spings...torque these bolts to 130ft/lbs
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Old 04-21-2003, 04:54 PM   #11
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1) top bolts
2) center shaft bolt
3) the bottome 2 19mm bolts that holds the bottom strut tight.
jonathan
what are the torque specks for all three?
thanks
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Old 04-21-2003, 04:59 PM   #12
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Are you guys having issues with clunking and/or loose bolts using a torque wrench? I wouldn't even attempt installing something as important as my car's suspensions without one

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Old 04-21-2003, 05:26 PM   #13
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Are you guys having issues with clunking and/or loose bolts using a torque wrench? I wouldn't even attempt installing something as important as my car's suspensions without one

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I am using a torque wrench.. I also have access to lift etc. etc..

I tightened the top bolts at 60ft lbs
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Old 04-21-2003, 07:32 PM   #14
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you might want to check out the top washer to make sure that it is on correctly make sure that the skinny end is up towards the bearing in the top hat, or you will deffinatly have a clanking noise I know I did.
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Old 04-21-2003, 09:14 PM   #15
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you might want to check out the top washer to make sure that it is on correctly make sure that the skinny end is up towards the bearing in the top hat, or you will deffinatly have a clanking noise I know I did.
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The washer on the top nut in the engine bay, correct?
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Stu,

The washer on the top nut in the engine bay, correct?
no, i believe he's talking about the one that goes in between the upper spring seat and top mount.

there is no washer on the top nut in the front, only in the rear.

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Also check this from here:

http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/sho...s=&threadid=36

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The most important detail. If you marked your parts correctly, you will not have this problem. I chose to seat the spring in the same position the factory spring landed, instead of orienting the top-hat correctly. This turned out to be a big mistake as the top hat was almost 180 degrees off. (It's almost un-noticeable when you re-assemble, so it's easier to do than you think...) Once on the car - the top hat crashed against the inside of the strut tower causing some scraping damage, and caused the springs to "click" when going over bumps. There should be NO sounds coming from your suspension when finished. I had to re-compress the spring, and turn the hat - to fix this problem. On the other side, it was only 20 degrees off, and was still causing noise. Learn from my mistake.

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Also check this from here:

http://www.scoobymods.com/forums/sho...s=&threadid=36

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The most important detail. If you marked your parts correctly, you will not have this problem. I chose to seat the spring in the same position the factory spring landed, instead of orienting the top-hat correctly. This turned out to be a big mistake as the top hat was almost 180 degrees off. (It's almost un-noticeable when you re-assemble, so it's easier to do than you think...) Once on the car - the top hat crashed against the inside of the strut tower causing some scraping damage, and caused the springs to "click" when going over bumps. There should be NO sounds coming from your suspension when finished. I had to re-compress the spring, and turn the hat - to fix this problem. On the other side, it was only 20 degrees off, and was still causing noise. Learn from my mistake.

I should have known someone from my birthplace (Lawrence, Ks) comes to the rescue!

Thank you!

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I'm from New Jersey, but I'm too nice and they shipped me here

You are welcome...

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I'm from New Jersey, but I'm too nice and they shipped me here

You are welcome...

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NP, we left KS in 1969

Going to put her on the lift this week and take car of this.. driving me nuts..
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I'm from New Jersey, but I'm too nice and they shipped me here
LOL, ain't it the truth!

i'm from southwestern connecticut (like an hour from the city), and now i live in vt.

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Peaty,

Thank for the drawings; they helped. R&R the front and did the recommendation and it works fine now, no clunks!
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Good deal glad everything is as it should be
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