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Old 04-25-2003, 09:33 AM   #1
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Continental ContiExtremeContact, 215/45/17 on Rota Subzeroes, 35psi front & rear
What they replaced - Kumho Ecsta MX, same size, same wheels
Car: 2001 2.5RS with some sort of low, stiff Eibach mystery springs, KYB AGXes, 25mm front sway bar, 20mm rear sway bar, and Whiteline endlinks.

What I was looking for: a decent dry tarmac tire with good dirt/gravel grip and lots of lifetime - I got 6000mi out of the MXes (but they were a FUN 6000mi).

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So far, they SUCK on dry pavement, unless you enjoy the drifting capabilities of RE92's - which I do. I lit up all 4 tires and fishtailed the car making a u-turn from a stop at a stoplight yesterday, about 10mi after they were put on. Of course, they may get better with a few more miles on them. Really impressed the folks standing outside the Mitsubishi dealership about 1/8 mi away (we were going to look at a blue EVO8). The steering response is good (better than MXes), and they don't tramline at all (the MXes are the worst tramlining tires that I've owned).

On wet pavement on the way to work this morning, they stuck really well - not quite as good as the MXes that they replaced, but way better than I remember the RE92's sticking. Also ran on some dry dirt back roads last night, which were damp dirt roads this morning after some rain. They were very good. Lots of control; I could make the rear swing out and get on the throttle and I'd just drift through the corners without any drama (additional steering input). Very nice. Launched a couple of times on some nice, thick dirt and the tires really dug in. I'm looking forward to doing some rallyXes now.

The views expressed in this review are those of an autox junkie and a one-time track school participant.
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Old 04-25-2003, 04:57 PM   #2
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I was looking at this all season tire because of it's very high rating it has on tirerack. I remember one guy say his tires sucked on payment until he realized the installers didn't inflate the tires high enough. Are they suppose to be inflated in the + 40psi range for everyday driving?
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Old 04-25-2003, 08:54 PM   #3
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only if you want to wear out the middle of the tread prematurely.
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Old 04-26-2003, 02:46 AM   #4
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only if you want to wear out the middle of the tread prematurely.
Hi Fred. (deleted sarcasm) I inflated my RE92s to 42 ft/ 40 rr and had even treadwear throughout the life of the tire. It would take more than that pressure to cause the centers to wear out first.

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Old 04-26-2003, 09:41 AM   #5
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We're not talking about RE92's here. I did the same thing with RE92's that you described and had even wear. The RE92's roll over on the edges when you corner, so I believe the wear becomes more even because of that.

I ran my MXes at 40 psi front and rear, and had a lot less tread in the middle of the tire than on the edges. Then I dropped the pressure to 35psi and the tread wore evenly. Different tires, different sizes, different results...

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Old 04-26-2003, 08:30 PM   #6
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We're not talking about RE92's here. I did the same thing with RE92's that you described and had even wear. The RE92's roll over on the edges when you corner, so I believe the wear becomes more even because of that.

I ran my MXes at 40 psi front and rear, and had a lot less tread in the middle of the tire than on the edges. Then I dropped the pressure to 35psi and the tread wore evenly. Different tires, different sizes, different results...

I was the one who did the original review on tirerack.

The Contis roll over just like the RE92s when not inflated up near 40psi. The tires max cold inflation is 45 if I remember correctly.
I enjoy them a lot now that they are properly (imo) inflated.

If you are running 45psi + you may notice uneven treadwear... and feel every bump in the road =)
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Old 04-27-2003, 12:21 AM   #7
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Well, I've played in the dirt some more with them, and they feel pretty good. Also did some fun runs after setting up an autox today, and they were fun to slide around on. They did grip just as well in the wet as they did when it was dry, though...

I also want to repeat that they are extremely comfortable to drive on the highway, after having MXes for the last 6000 miles. It's so nice not to have to constantly correct the steering wheel when I'm going straight.

Jonny - how many miles do you have on them? Are they lasting pretty well? (are you resisting evil urges and trying to make them last?)
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Old 04-29-2003, 01:18 PM   #8
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I ordered some of these for everyday driving. When I get my backordered rims, I check them with my pyrometer. They will be 215/45/17 on 7.5" rims and driving around town pressures.
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Old 05-05-2003, 02:44 PM   #9
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I have a set of these and love them for what they are designed for. It's an exceptional all season tire. Every car article I've rates them very high. Fred you are taking a risk of spinning the tires on the rims with so little mileage on them.
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Old 05-06-2003, 10:50 AM   #10
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Fred you are taking a risk of spinning the tires on the rims with so little mileage on them.
Please elaborate - I have no idea what you're talking about.

Thanks.
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Old 05-06-2003, 10:58 AM   #11
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Also an update - they're gripping a little better now. I have around 700miles on them, I think. They scream like nuts when you break traction, but they're really not that bad (just loud). Real linear when they start to slip, too. Nice for drifting those on-ramps. I'd say they're about equivalent to a Kumho 712.

I think they actually brake better when the road is wet than when it's dry. And the grip on dirt is way better than the Kumho MXes, that's for shore.

Still quiet, smooth, and the tread hardly shows any wear, except for a little on the outside edge. Running 35psi and they hardly roll over.

I think that's about it. Later.
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Old 05-25-2003, 08:12 AM   #12
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I boughts these recently for my stock wheels. Real happy with them. Great in the dry and wet and quiet. Can't wait to see if they live up to what I've read about them in the snow. Much better than what came on my 02 WRX and you can't beat the price. My 2 cents.
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Old 05-25-2003, 10:04 AM   #13
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35 psi is way to low for this tire.... I have a set on my Legacy 215/45/17 on 7.5 rims and I was running 38/35 cold and getting edge wear - moved up to 42/38 cold and wear has evened out. Grip and ride is better at the higher pressure also.. As you said "Different tires, different sizes, different results..."

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PS I have about 3000 miles on the Conti's - at this point my previous RE-011's were bald!
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I just got these on my 02 wagon 2 weeks ago and so far have been very happy with them - I am running them at 36 PSI and that seems to be fine as far as street driving goes - have yet to get them on dirt so cant't commemt there. They stick pretty good in the rain and are noticeably quieter on the HWY.
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Man these are great rain tires. Drove in a HEAVY HEAVY HOLYCR*P downpour, great feel. Pushed it a little, it responded to all steering inputs, didn't feel like it was hydroplaning. Did a medium launch in standing water on slick asphalt, stock tires easily brake loose there even with only a damp surface. These spun for a second when I dumped the clutch, then gripped hard. Had to grap a little clutch to keep it up on the RRR's.
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Default I like em, but.....

I cant seem to figure out why my car feels much floatier w/ these vs the RE-92's.

They do grip better in all conditions (so far: wet/Dry/hardpack) than the stockers but on the freeway they feel more like my Blizzaks than I would like.

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Mostly stock, Rear diff lock bolts and urethane bushes, 40/38 f/r, 225/50/16 stock wheel


Any ideas?

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Old 07-22-2003, 12:50 AM   #17
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I'm just bring this back to the top.

I bought the ContiExtremeContacts on the strength of the 134 reviews on tirerack.

They are replacing a set of Dunlop SP5000 in the stock size.

I am currently 200 miles into the 500 mile break in period. The first hundred miles or so had really poor grip, this was expected thanks to fred's review.
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I ordered some of these for everyday driving. When I get my backordered rims, I check them with my pyrometer. They will be 215/45/17 on 7.5" rims and driving around town pressures.

I did do this. For normal driving, stock wagon, 215/45/17, 7.5" rims; the front pressure is 38psi/rear 36. Did some moderate hard driving 42frt/38r.
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