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Old 04-28-2003, 11:35 PM   #26
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Default Forgot to mention this...

The dyno's were all done on a mustang dyno with a 17% adjustment factored in.

Just thought I would mention that,
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Old 04-29-2003, 05:37 AM   #27
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Default Prices...

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When will you have pricing and availabilty info on the stage 2 and stage 3 TD04 upgrades? Can you run this safely on stock fuel?
The level 2 upgrade is $600 + $15 shipping in the lower 48 states. The level 3 upgrade is going to be $675 + $15 for shipping. There is also a $200 refundable core charge for these as well and will be refunded as soon as the core is recieved

Hawaii and Alaska add $30 for express shipping

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Old 04-29-2003, 05:45 AM   #28
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Default Sort of accurate...

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i wonder if this 16g is better than the vf30 im currently using...i've seen roughly the same hp #s from the vf30 and similar mods.
This is true in the power range, however this turbo will come on boost sooner and hold it longer then the VF30

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Old 04-29-2003, 06:15 AM   #29
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Maybe I missed this, but what is the difference between Level 2 and Level 3 Td04 Upgrade besides the price?
Anyhow, interesting.
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Old 04-29-2003, 12:24 PM   #30
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No, you didn't I was wondering the same thing...
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Old 04-29-2003, 01:19 PM   #31
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Have a Nice Day?

Also, this is the third time I will ask, will you offer the big 16g or 18g as well?
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Old 04-29-2003, 01:24 PM   #32
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How does the 16G turbo compare to the TD04 with level 3 upgrade.
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Old 04-29-2003, 02:31 PM   #33
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Maybe I missed this, but what is the difference between Level 2 and Level 3 Td04 Upgrade besides the price?
Anyhow, interesting.
The difference between the two is the impeller size. The Level 3 has a larger impeller which of course is more expensive and requires more machine work on the housing.

I hope this helps.

dman918 : I will have an answer for you later this week as we should be able to get you both the larger 16g and 18g just not sure of availability.

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Old 04-29-2003, 05:46 PM   #34
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Thanks. I will keep an eye out. I am just dying to decide on a turbo.
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Old 04-29-2003, 07:53 PM   #35
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Hey Nick-

Daryl here, thanks for the help with the Forge spring a couple weeks ago.

Anywho, what are the spool up for level 2 and level 3. I am not fully grasping the characteristics of these turbos yet. Also is there anyone in our area running these? Maybe I could be a "test subject". Of course I scratch your back and tell everyone my experience and you can scratch mine
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Old 04-29-2003, 07:56 PM   #36
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Also Nick-

Maybe to make it easier for other people like me, how do these turbos compare to the VF series turbos. Mainly the 22, 23, and 30. I have a 23, but if I can get some more performance AND better spool, well that makes it easy... Thanks.
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Old 04-29-2003, 11:13 PM   #37
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Default It's hard to compare them directly...

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Also Nick-

Maybe to make it easier for other people like me, how do these turbos compare to the VF series turbos. Mainly the 22, 23, and 30. I have a 23, but if I can get some more performance AND better spool, well that makes it easy... Thanks.

The level 2 has both the low spool characteristics of the 29 and the ability to hold boost to redline with close to the same CFM as the vf30/34.

The level 3 has the spool characteristics of the vf30 yet has a much higher flow rating. I don't have an exact comparison for this one but I can say it's definatly nice for high end boost if you are looking for a drag type turbo in a small package with some good streetable characteristics.

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Old 04-30-2003, 12:07 AM   #38
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What's the availability/lead time on the 16g's?
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Old 04-30-2003, 12:27 AM   #39
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Hey Nick, I'm pretty interested in the 16g.

Will STi injectors and a walbro pump be enough to run comfortable IDCs with this turbo? Or will I need fuel rails as well?
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Old 04-30-2003, 01:41 AM   #40
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Hey Nick, I'm pretty interested in the 16g.

Will STi injectors and a walbro pump be enough to run comfortable IDCs with this turbo? Or will I need fuel rails as well?
We have 1 left 3 are spoken for and in about 3 weeks we will have many more

The turbo can be installed on a factory setup without any mods. Currently you shouldn't need much more then some good engine managment to get a lot out of the turbo. Fuel rails are always a good idea and so are injectors and fuel pumps these are just good ideas if you want to make a lot of power and get the most for what you are getting.

Yet are not needed to bolt it on and go

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Old 04-30-2003, 02:35 AM   #41
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I don't understand how this turbo can flow more air than a VF30 and still be bolt-on. Everyone pretty much says that you at least need a pump and injectors to run a VF30 comfortably.
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Old 04-30-2003, 02:41 AM   #42
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Default I think you missed this part :)

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Shouldn't this turbo be called a hybrid TDO5 16G, since it really is a Frankenstein turbo. Just want everyone to realize that this turbo isn't a genuine 16G as those used in the Ver ll overseas.
This is a fully developed upgrade for the US market Subaru, not a reworked European or Japan issue upgrade.

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Old 04-30-2003, 02:43 AM   #43
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I don't understand how this turbo can flow more air than a VF30 and still be bolt-on. Everyone pretty much says that you at least need a pump and injectors to run a VF30 comfortably.
If you want to run more then 16LBS of boost this would be an accurate statement, however I never said you shouldn't get any other mods, just that you could run it with a bone stock car and still get 264 WHP

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Old 04-30-2003, 02:47 AM   #44
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i cant decide....that just sounds so sweet...i need to save up my $$ and i'll be buyin one
 
Old 04-30-2003, 03:02 AM   #45
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I'm very interested as well, can you post pictures any time this week? Also, what is max boost on this thing? Im actaully focused on road racing, so this turbo sound attractive... fast spool, holds boost... but again, whats its max psi?

Thanks

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Old 04-30-2003, 12:35 PM   #46
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For those interested in the TS 16G here is a discussion on it

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=347107
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Old 04-30-2003, 12:38 PM   #47
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you link doesn't work..
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Old 04-30-2003, 01:02 PM   #48
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If you want to run more then 16LBS of boost this would be an accurate statement, however I never said you shouldn't get any other mods, just that you could run it with a bone stock car and still get 264 WHP

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Just a nOOb here trying to learn more.

Can you please explain how the with 16G, with the same amount of boost (according to your statement) as the stock TD 04 you can produce over 70 additional WHP ?

I understand the the turbo may run cooler to achieve the same amount of boost but how else can the same abount of air, with the same amount of fuel could produce more HP ?
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Old 04-30-2003, 01:22 PM   #49
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Just a nOOb here trying to learn more.

Can you please explain how the with 16G, with the same amount of boost (according to your statement) as the stock TD 04 you can produce over 70 additional WHP ?

I understand the the turbo may run cooler to achieve the same amount of boost but how else can the same abount of air, with the same amount of fuel could produce more HP ?
A bigger turbo does not need to produce more boost to achive more HP. The way a turbo is rated is in CFM this is the amount of air a turbo can move, not the boost level at which it can handle. You can have a turbo with 500 CFM running 15lbs of boost produce as much HP as a turbo that is 300 CFM at 25lbs of boost.

I hope this makes a little more sense to you now

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Old 04-30-2003, 01:57 PM   #50
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Default 16G Turbo......

Let's make sure I got his right:

I can run this 16G turbo @ 15.5 psi with my current mods with no Engine Management and not have any problems with running with the stock fuel pump, injectors and stock ECU?

My current mods are:

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If this Turbo will work with my current mods I may be giving you guys a call.

Thanks
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