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Old 04-27-2003, 02:01 PM   #1
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Default Volk TE-37 - ticking?

Odd question here guys.

I've had TE-37s on my car for over two years now. About 6 months ago, I started hearing a ticking noise on hard turns from the hub area.

A buddy of mine w/ the same rims had the same problem and explained that pulling them off, cleaning the brake rotor/back of the rim and then coating each with anti-sieze paste would fix the problem.

Oddly enough, this works perfectly... however, it is only temporary. I have to do this approximatley once a month - big PITA.

I just wanted to see if anybody else was having this problem? Also, I have a stoptech big brake kit, so the rotor hat is different than stock.

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Old 04-27-2003, 06:52 PM   #2
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Dan,

I've experienced some odd creaking noises from my wheels after taking them to the dealer. I pretty much narrowed it down to the lug nuts (McCard spline drive) I think. The noise was initially coming from the front while turning at low speeds. I switched the front lugnuts to the rear and cleaned off the grease the dealer applied to my wheel-to-hub surface and the noise went away. I haven't heard any noises since.

I have UK17's not TE-37s, but you might want to rule out your lug nuts. You might also want to check the center hub caps if you have them.
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Old 04-28-2003, 02:49 PM   #3
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maybe there is a coin inside your tire, like when you do a load of laundry with change in your pocket...tick, spin, tick
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Old 04-28-2003, 04:46 PM   #4
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i had this problem when i had my stoptechs. the problem isn't the stoptechs or the lugnuts. the clicking is coming from your bearings having gone bad. the bad bearings are not supporting your front axle relative to the hub as designed and then it allows the rotor to deflect relative to the caliper more than caliper can accomodate/designed. this relative movement then loads up the drive pins between the rotor and the black carrier hat, causing them to click. i worked w/ stoptech on debugging this issue for over 3 monthes. after i fixed my front bearings, the noise never came back.

the other thing to remember is that the stock front axle nut preload is not sufficient to provide adequet bearing preload. you need to up the torque and repack your bearings w/ race bearing grease. i have the upper limit of the axle nut torque at home. i'll edit this post tonight. check out sheehan's page for grease type. they've swapped out front bearings 2 billion times.

hope this didn't just confuse you more

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Old 04-28-2003, 06:31 PM   #5
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Actually that makes perfect sense. However, why have my bearings gone bad? Is it due to lack of center caps on the rims or something else?

I never had this problem w/ my old WRX in Atlanta (i'm now in LA and lived by the beach for 3 months last year = salt and grime) with the exact same wheels and brakes... the only thing that's changed is my lugnuts (Kyokugen) which I'll change tonight and see if that solves anything.

The bearing idea does make PERFECT sense save for the fact that antisieze completely fixes the problem for 2-3 weeks (at which point its pretty much been washed away).

Anyway, thanks a lot guys...

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Old 04-28-2003, 10:07 PM   #6
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Dan,

I've experienced some odd creaking noises from my wheels after taking them to the dealer. I pretty much narrowed it down to the lug nuts (McCard spline drive) I think. The noise was initially coming from the front while turning at low speeds. I switched the front lugnuts to the rear and cleaned off the grease the dealer applied to my wheel-to-hub surface and the noise went away. I haven't heard any noises since.

I have UK17's not TE-37s, but you might want to rule out your lug nuts. You might also want to check the center hub caps if you have them.
Wylie, how you liking those rims?

Post some pics man!!
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Old 04-28-2003, 10:10 PM   #7
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Wylie, how you liking those rims?
They're great! Actually, I just bought a digital camera, so I'll post pics up as soon as the weather clears.
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Old 04-28-2003, 10:41 PM   #8
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hm i get clicking or clunking of some sort. mainly from the rear though and its only when i'm going very slow in parking lots i hear it.
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Old 04-29-2003, 02:15 AM   #9
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i did the same thing. i tightened the nuts and it went away for about 1 week then it came back again, over and over again. i don't know why the front bearings went out so easily. all i know is that my right front was really bad. when we finally got the hub assembly apart, the RF bearing assembly allowed the hub to deflect nearly 0.100". this is HUGE. i think my LF bearing is on the way out as well.

my bearings went out because at some point in time, someone had taken my front axle nuts off and retorqued them but not to the high end of the acceptable torque range. this was evident because there were two staking marks on the axle nuts but the second one was at less of a torque mark. so the bearings gapped and overheated when i was on the track. there were witness marks on the races from the siezing and there was definate discoloration from the excessive heat.

i don't know why yours might have gone out so easily. the absense of the axle cap wouldn't do it. i really don't know what to say. check to see if there's more than one staking mark on your axle nuts. if so, then your nuts have also been removed and possibly been not retorqued properly. being that your axle caps are gone this is easy to check.

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