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Old 05-06-2001, 03:48 PM   #1
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Post Selling the Integra, Going Impreza.....HELP!

Ok, I am selling my 95 Integra GSR and looking a 98 Impreza 2.5 RS. I have some worries though.

The car is black and has aftermarket pedals and those stupid blue lightbulbs. So obviously a younger person has driven this and probably street raced it. I am very comfortable with Honda reliability and this Subaru thing is very new to me. What kind of general probelms do these cars have, is the transmission/awd system/engine reliable? What are some of the general things/problems that you all have had? The car once again is a 1998 and has 60k miles on it. The dealer is asking 13k but I think I can talk them down to 11k. I am just worried and I think that I need some encouragement!

oh yeah, are parts expensive or hard to come by?

thanks in advance! i need to jump on this if you all give me good word.....this car is going to sell fast.
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Old 05-06-2001, 04:00 PM   #2
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kevbatch, How does it drive? 5-spd MT or Auto? Clutch action/test? As you're a newbie you won't know about the Gen1 vs Gen2 2.5 motor thing. In a nutshell, the Gen1 motors are DOHC, breathe real well, but lack in durability compared to the Gen2 sohc motors, which also have much improved low-end torque characteristics and a different piston design. Does the car come with service records?
If it meets all your expectations, I would look at spending the $$$ you can squeeze out of the dealer on an extended warranty to cover your a$$!!

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Old 05-06-2001, 04:01 PM   #3
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to much torque will wreck the tranny the engine is very reliable so are the diffs. people have had some maf problems. wrx had the ce light. tires. over all subaru is pretty good the only thing that scares me is the tranny but if you make sure you dont have to much torque at the fly then you will be fine but once you pass that point probably want to look into a stronger rebuilt tranny. as for aftermarket parts since you are coming from a honda/acura, parts will be more scarce and more expensive. there just isnt as many subaru owners as honda/acura, so parts are more expensive and there arnt that many companies in the business like honda/acura. but hopefully more will jump on the boat since the WRX is now out.
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Old 05-06-2001, 04:03 PM   #4
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nuburu2:

it is a 5spd and drives great. it's not as fast as my GSR....but that's only temporary so does a 95 RS come with the gen 1 or 2 engine?

since you reccomend an extended warranty, does that mean subarus aren't reliable? that is my main concern...especially the awd system/tranny/engine.
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Old 05-06-2001, 04:40 PM   #5
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kevin-- depending on when it was produced in the 1998 model year, it could have either the original shortblock or the revised Phase II shortblock. search the general forum for the 98RS faq... some owners were collecting knowledge about a month or so ago.

the transmission is unfortunately not reliable. I mean it isn't like a BMW 2002, but it is rather fragile and intolerant of pig-headed driving.
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Old 05-06-2001, 10:02 PM   #6
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With stock power output the tranny should be fine. Add a 75 shot of juice, or a >5lbs turbo setup and I think you'll lose some gears. I had a '98 L that I put 33k somewhat hard miles on, and never once did it even hint at giving me troubles.
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Old 05-06-2001, 11:51 PM   #7
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BUY IT!!!!! I just bought a 98 RS in January from Flatirons Subaru in Boulder. I'd lusted for a RS for as long as they had been here. I freekin love it. I wish I'd gotten a 99 though, my car has the older enging, but who cares its an IMPREZA RS dude, buy it, and go drive on some dirt roads doin like 80mph and get that sucker airborne!!!!! I'm worried about my whole car, I'm not only broke, but have massive debt!!!!!! I should drive like a grandma to preserve whats left of my poor car, but hey I cant help it .....ITS A FREKIN RS MAN!!!!! I think my tranny is OK, I have 65k on it I bought it with 52k on Jan 2nd. I would do all you can to talk them down to 11k though, if not walk!!! I should have shopped around a bit more but my car died and I HAD to get a new one, and I there was no way I was going to get anything other than an RS and my options at the time were limited.
I hope you get an RS, it is the coolest car and is only getting cooler now that people actually are getting to know what they are. I've always loved (and in my mind raced) rally, the RS is a great car, adn this site proves it. Where elts are you going to find this many people so devoted to a car who are nice, and normal....except me, I'm not normal. But everyone elts is, and what....you're not going to buy another HONDA...I mean c'mon, it's a frekin' honda, I dont see any hondas in the WRC
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Old 05-07-2001, 10:36 AM   #8
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Just one thing to add. You might want to make sure the dealership does the 60K mile service before you buy the car. If you do buy, you might also want to get an independent Subaru mechanic to inspect the drivetrain for any serious problems. Good luck!

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Old 05-07-2001, 10:57 AM   #9
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why would u want to get rid of your 95 GSR? If you can, spend a bit more on a 99+ RS. 98 RS has some problems with their head gaskets as well. And the power is not as good as the 99+ models. Also the interior is somewhat different. No leather MOMO shiftknob, no checkered racing bucket seats and I think no white gauges too. Not a big deal. But it does add up nicely.
All the best.
Frey, I don't see Subaru in F1 or Indycar series either. Let's not knock on Hondas. They make good cars too.
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Old 05-07-2001, 06:08 PM   #10
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I just got my WRX ,935 miles ago and now I selling my 96 GSR. My Integra ran strong,type-R cams, TB, short shift kit and a Apex exhaust. I didnt know if I wanted to switch but now I sure of it. Cant wait to get some mods on my WRX..Where you start??
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Old 05-07-2001, 06:58 PM   #11
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Look, I don't want to start any fights here, but this is MY honest observation: I have a 01RS 5speed sedan. At 500 miles, there was an engine knock, which turned out to be a bad timing belt tensioner. At 2200 miles there was a nice rattle coming from behind the radio, that the Subaru dealer I brought the car to, in an effort to take out the radio, completely scratched the whole console, which they paid for and replaced. At 4500 miles- check engine light- bad oxygen sensor. From 3500 miles on, on ocasion, I've had clutch chatter- haven't had the time or patience to mess with the dealer. To be perfectly honest, I expected the quality to be a lot better. On the other hand, a few years back, I worked for a Honda dealership, in service and we very rarely did warranty work, and whatever we did was minor, like interior things breaking and such... no engine or transmission issues whatsoever. So, yeah, as far as reliability, my vote unfortunatelly goes for Honda. Don't get me wrong, for some strange unknown reason, I still love my Suby and wouldn't part with it, even tough I had a chance. If you are planning to turbo the car, spend a little more and get 99 up- better engine, but the same old tranny. Hope I helped in some way, and didn't piss too many people off.

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Old 05-07-2001, 08:06 PM   #12
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98's are cool my RS has been running great for along time i have put 30000somthing miles on it in aboot 5months or so
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Old 05-08-2001, 04:09 PM   #13
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Sold a 98 GSR 4-door here. Got the WRX wagon 5 days after on March 23. NO REGRETS!
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Old 05-08-2001, 04:33 PM   #14
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an "I" for an "I".....

i know, i know, cheezy, but i couldn't help it.
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Old 05-08-2001, 05:07 PM   #15
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G2 - boooo *hisssss*

I drove my ex wife's honda civic for a while, so that's the only Honda that I have to compare against. All I can say is this:

Every car manufacturer gives its cars a personality. Some of them tend to be for the "average" consumer. Some of them tend to have a little foreign flavor.

Subarus come with a feeling of safety, uniqueness, and straight rally power. Since I've had my Subie, I feel totally unique on the road (and off).

I've had it doing crazy things on the twisties (all I could think of was Gran Tourismo while I had the engine at 5k screaming around the corner with my tires chattering), insane offroad speeds that I'd never even think of doing with a "normal" car. There is no better feeling than AWD, unless it's purposely breaking all the tires loose in a controlled four wheel drift.

Think of this way when you drive to/from work. How many Integras do you see in a typical drive? How many Imprezas?

I've never been happier.
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Old 05-09-2001, 03:30 PM   #16
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<FONT COLOR="Blue">Text</FONT c>Just take it for a few more test drive and you will become a believer. I wasn't even in the market to buy a car. However, when my buddy put his up for sale himself(dealer was going to screw him), I had to go get it from the dealership. After driving it to a couple of guys who showed some interest, I just ended up buying it myself. Gave my wife my Benz C280 and sold her CRV. It is just fun driving...which is more than I can say for any Honda...
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Old 05-09-2001, 03:56 PM   #17
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Well, since everybody else has a positive view I will throw in my usual negative:

Don't do it.

In a nutshell the RS, especially the '98 RS, was a prototype car which should never have been released to the public. They have a broad range of serious, expensive flaws, not limited to head gasket problems, bad wheel bearings, breakage-prone and generally poor transmissions, piston slap bad enough that dealers sometimes warranty entire engines for it, and really bad paint. Then there are many little things like mushy brakes, bad timing belt tensioners, clutches which chatter badly, fragile MAFs and O<sub>2</sub> sensors, and other little surprises which will keep you on a first-name basis with the guys in the service department. You will also get to experience the many small ways in which Subaru tried to cut costs on this car, which are too many to mention.

All for what? AWD? Few owners actually need it - a FWD car with snow tires will wallop the RS on RE-92s and most other cars out there anyway, as I found out after living in the Midwest for two years. If you really want good AWD save your money for a WRX or an Audi.

If a kid has been driving it... don't walk away, run.

I have seen many GSRs which were abused weekend after weekend and nothing ever broke on them. You can baby an RS and it will let you down anyway.

Don't get me wrong, I love my RS and [after thousands of dollars of mods] it is a blast to drive. But for the same amount of money I could have a GSR which was considerably faster and won't leave me feeling nervous whenever I go more than a mile from home without my tools.
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Old 05-09-2001, 05:09 PM   #18
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I also traded a gsr in on a Subaru 01 RS which has been really good to us so far with 5500 mile and only 3 months old I like the car although it is lacking in the power dept compared to my Gsr which had all the same old bolt ons..... But would not trade it... If I could have only had both>>>>
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