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Old 04-29-2003, 06:32 PM   #1
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I have a problem.

I am addicted to using freeway cloverleafs as skidpads. This means I wear out left side tires faster than rights. I really thrash the left side tires. Left RE92s are going bald before 20k miles.

Which means I need to rotate the tires side to side or diagonal, not front to back like you have to do with directional tires.

So I am looking for non-directional tires. But all the best ones that I want are directional.

Anybody know of a good high performance on-directional tire?
(looking for 225/45/17)

Or should I just bite the bullet and accept that I will have to either slow down or buy tires more often?
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Old 04-30-2003, 01:08 PM   #2
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The falken azenis sports are non-directional and very grippy
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Old 04-30-2003, 04:08 PM   #3
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Pirelli P-Zero Nero is the best performing non-directional tire

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Old 04-30-2003, 04:38 PM   #4
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Thanks guys.
Does anybody know if the Bridgestone RE92 is unidirectional? My WRX owners manual says to rotate it front/back like it's unidirectional, but looking at the the tread, it does not look unidirectional.
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Old 04-30-2003, 04:47 PM   #5
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Luke: I noticed in the photos that while the Pzero Nero doesn't have a directional tread pattern, it is assymetric. Two of the center tread sections go one way, and the third section goes the opposite way. I'm guessing this is no big deal, and I can run the tire either direction without issues?
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Old 05-01-2003, 11:24 AM   #6
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Just a thought,

I was once told that you should never rotate your tires from right side to the left side and vice versa due to the fact that the yarns inside the tires have been stretched and used in one direction and going to the other direction could lead into misalignment (steering pull) and uneven tire reaction...

Maybe Luke knows about this ?
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Old 05-01-2003, 11:42 AM   #7
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yok paradaspec2's are uni-directional (not standard directional) so you can do cross rotations too. quiet, comfy and decent grip.
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Old 05-01-2003, 11:49 AM   #8
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The Paradas (at least the with the original I have, but I don't see the tread design any different in the Spec - 2) are asymmetrical, but NOT unidirectional. Which means you can swap the tires to the other side.

In fact, my experience with the "Spec - 1" is that you should do that often. I have serious clamshelling of the outside blocks on tire tires mounted on the left side of the car. I need to swap them to the otherside or else they get worse and they get very very loud.

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Old 05-01-2003, 02:49 PM   #9
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the tire store used the term "uni-directional" so i thought it sounded cool and used it... but yah they are also asymetrical but some asymetrical tires are directional.. aren't they? (for my knowledge).
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Old 05-01-2003, 03:04 PM   #10
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but yah they are also asymetrical but some asymetrical tires are directional.. aren't they? (for my knowledge).
Luke probably can answer this better, but I remember some versions of Pirelli PZeros as asymetrical and directional. Those tires come in Left and Right versions. You cannot rotate them to the other side, not even after dismounting the tire.

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Luke: I noticed in the photos that while the Pzero Nero doesn't have a directional tread pattern, it is assymetric. Two of the center tread sections go one way, and the third section goes the opposite way. I'm guessing this is no big deal, and I can run the tire either direction without issues?
2 things ...

the different directions in the tread design do not make the tire directional .... it is asymetrical and can be rotated in any fashion ....

and tires can be rotated to any position on a car left to right, front to back etc. ( read the tire tech post in this forum )
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Old 05-01-2003, 04:56 PM   #12
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the tire store used the term "uni-directional" so i thought it sounded cool and used it... but yah they are also asymetrical but some asymetrical tires are directional.. aren't they? (for my knowledge).
yes som asymetrical tires are also directional
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Old 05-01-2003, 05:58 PM   #13
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thanks, Luke.


so to recap:
ParadaSpec2's are asymetrical tires but not directional..so they can be rotated on either side of the car...as long as the outside sidewall is mounted to the outside side of the wheel.

therefore, calling the spec2's "uni-directional" is incorrect because it can go either direction as long as it is mounted to the wheel correctly.

uni-directional mounting might be a more accurate term.hehehe.
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Old 05-02-2003, 02:26 PM   #14
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Thanks Luke and everybody.
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Old 05-02-2003, 06:44 PM   #15
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Sumitomo HTR+ are pretty good ultra performance all-season uni-directional tire for the money I love mine...
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Old 05-02-2003, 08:19 PM   #16
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I'll say the Falken Azenis is one of the best undirectional tires for the money. My rex brake hella better with those shoes on, they seems quite grip in rain too.
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Old 05-03-2003, 01:29 AM   #17
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if you are going to use the term uni-directional, for HTR+, since those are non-directional tires, they would be bi-directional...

starting to sound like we're talking about microphones...
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Old 05-04-2003, 11:32 PM   #18
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I dated a girl who was bi-directional once. Good times.
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just installed the PARADA SPEC2, i like it alot. not loud thank goodness. i haven't tested it on wet roads yet though. so far a very happy customer........

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