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Old 04-30-2003, 12:05 AM   #1
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Since I live in an apartment and dont have a hose, is it ok if I wash my car, then clay bar the entire thing, and then rinse the entire car at the same time instead of rinsing each area as I go?
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Old 04-30-2003, 01:34 AM   #2
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I did that once out of laziness.... you just end up having to do the whole car over again.
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Old 04-30-2003, 02:09 AM   #3
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Wash the car again or clay bar the entire car again?
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Old 04-30-2003, 09:56 AM   #4
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I just did a clay bar cleaning of my car and I did the following:

1) Wash car.
2) Clay bar.
3) Re-wash car.
4) Dry & Wax.

Worked great.

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Old 04-30-2003, 10:35 AM   #5
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what does the clay bar do?
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Old 04-30-2003, 10:39 AM   #6
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The clay bar is used to pick up dirt/debris particles that would normally be missed by a regular car wash.

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Old 04-30-2003, 11:13 AM   #7
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if you use a nice detail spray-n-shine along WITH the clay bar...
you will not have to re-wash the car....

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Old 04-30-2003, 11:20 AM   #8
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Quote:
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if you use a nice detail spray-n-shine along WITH the clay bar...
you will not have to re-wash the car....
Thats what I was gonna say...
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Old 04-30-2003, 11:57 AM   #9
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mothers is a good one to use and is easily available at any auto store....

joefocker: are you talking about washing it and then with the soap still on there to use as a lubricant for the clay?
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Old 04-30-2003, 02:14 PM   #10
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Yea I'm confused too...just wipe down the area you just clay bar'd won't take too much longer!

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Old 04-30-2003, 02:44 PM   #11
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Griots is okay but mothers will get the job done at 1/10th the price...

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Old 04-30-2003, 03:31 PM   #12
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Quote:
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Wash the car again or clay bar the entire car again?
Sorry I knew I should have elaborated..


I like to go section by section.

1. Wash whole car
2. Spray mothers showtime detailer spray on passenger front fender
3. Clay bar the fender
4. Rinse off fender with water


I guess you could claybar the whole car then rinse it off, but it might require some scrubbing with your hand. The detailer spray tends to sorta gel after you've run the claybar through it.

Also, I have these marks from where the detailer spray was left to drip down the front bumper. That was from the time that I tried to claybar the whole car before rinsing it off.
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Old 04-30-2003, 05:47 PM   #13
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I have a black car and all I did was wash the car, clay bar it with the detail spray (I do it in sections then wipe it off) then I wax the car and it comes out perfect. It even manages to get a lot of swirl marks out.
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Old 04-30-2003, 05:53 PM   #14
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Old 04-30-2003, 05:53 PM   #15
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you guys wash your car after claybar? huh...

i wash car
spray lube (detailer spray) a section
claybar section
whip off with soft cotton towel and move on

then wax at the end.
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Old 04-30-2003, 05:53 PM   #16
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our T1 got stuck... sorry for the tripppple post.
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Old 04-30-2003, 05:55 PM   #17
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that's what I thought, are you supposed to wash it off because it looks fine when I do it.
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Old 04-30-2003, 06:41 PM   #18
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Check this webpage out.
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whats wrong with just washing it with soap and water, hitting it with a cleaning wax, and then some shine spray? it would seem to me that if you are rubbing a bar over your paint, whatever dirt was still there would just get ground into the paint
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Old 05-01-2003, 09:28 AM   #20
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Thats the point of the claybar, to remove dirt, oxidation, and other materials from your paint. I guess it's kind of analogous with rubbing a lint brush over a black shirt.
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Old 05-01-2003, 11:56 AM   #21
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Quote:
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Griots is okay but mothers will get the job done at 1/10th the price...

Jamie www.subiegalracing.com
I don't usually disagree with Jamie, but the Griot's kit is $29, while the Mothers kit is $20. The Griot's Speed Shine is a lot nicer than the Mothers (or anyone else's I have encountered, for that matter) lube/quik detailing fluid, to boot.

The other thing is that you shouldn't clay the car too often. Ditto for polishing. Never forget that clay is an abradant, which takes away paint/clear coat with overuse. I clay before I wax (4x annually), and polish once a year, unless there's something I have to buff out.

You should wash, clay, then wax. When claying, use liberal amounts of the speed shine product, so that the clay glides across the paint. Work a small area, and knead the clay frequently, to keep dirt from becoming embedded in the clay, thus scratching the car while removing dirt.

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Old 05-01-2003, 12:31 PM   #22
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Well, washed my car, clayed it, rinsed it, and applied one coat of Meguiars wax. It looks pretty good except for all of the rock chips I picked up this winter I think I'm going to apply 2 or 3 more coats throughout the day though, along with clean my rims, wheelwells, interior, and exhaust.
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Old 05-01-2003, 01:27 PM   #23
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eeeeeek - STOP!.....oh noooooo. WHY are people claying new cars? There is NO need to clay a car unless it's been truly, truly neglected for a long, long time. You're just scratching your paint and creating billions of little swirls that will never be removed permanently.
This thread is killing me.
For the love of god and everything sacred - do not clay new cars!
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Old 05-01-2003, 01:53 PM   #24
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Well, I did the clay test, and I had tons of things in the paint that it took out or erased. My paint looked terrible since the cars been through two harsh winters and 6000 ft elevation sunlight, it looks good now but I still have umpteen billion rock chips, I even have a few on the BACK of my car! Anyone know of any paint that is chip resistant to an extent?
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Old 05-01-2003, 05:24 PM   #25
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eeeeeek - STOP!.....oh noooooo. WHY are people claying new cars? There is NO need to clay a car unless it's been truly, truly neglected for a long, long time. You're just scratching your paint and creating billions of little swirls that will never be removed permanently.
This thread is killing me.
For the love of god and everything sacred - do not clay new cars!
I don't know if I completely agree. I think that you shouldn't clay too often, but clay (or polishing) removes things that ordinary washing can't get off the car. Post-clay, the car's paint is smoother, and the wax soaks in better.

I always inspect the car carefully after claying, and the paint is fine. The other thing is to clay, as you remove wax, parallel to the car back and forth, rather than in a circular motion (I read that somewhere, and it seems to work).

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