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Old 04-30-2003, 04:57 PM   #1
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Default Good god! What did you guys do to get the oil drain plug off the first time?

I'm currently doing my WRX first oil change and the oil drain plug is screw on soo tight. You guys got any tips on removing it? I cant imagine how hard the oil filter will be to remove...

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Old 04-30-2003, 05:05 PM   #2
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11/16th socket
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Old 04-30-2003, 05:07 PM   #3
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i thought it was 17mm socket?
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Old 04-30-2003, 05:17 PM   #4
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i have the dealer do my oil changes...i get them for free
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Old 04-30-2003, 05:18 PM   #5
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so i guess i just gotta use brute strength eh?
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Old 04-30-2003, 05:34 PM   #6
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Went to the Pinebarrens and jumped it a couple of times J/k
I had no prob taking it off
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Old 04-30-2003, 05:44 PM   #7
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Mine was on tight. The 11/16th on the 03WRX fit the best. Putting it back on, it leaked until I put a little muscle behind it. In any case, it was a good enough reason to make a life purchase and just buy a socket set.
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Old 04-30-2003, 05:48 PM   #8
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For my first oil change, being all upside down and turned around, I was actually tightening the plug. I think that took me a good 20 minutes to figure out. After that it wasn't so hard to get off

The Oil filter was harder than the plug, though. I ended up getting a oil filter wrench, and then it came off with a little bit of muscle.
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Old 04-30-2003, 06:39 PM   #9
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A) Metric. B) Liquid wrench is your friend. C) Don't take the car back anywhere where this can happen again
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Old 04-30-2003, 07:13 PM   #10
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When I first removed the plug it was a little harder than normal, but I assumed that was just paint on the threads or something.

Make sure you use a new crush washer (they cost ~$3 for a pack of 5 from the dealer)

It takes a 17mm if I remember correctly (most things, with the exception of the lugnuts, I bet, are metric on a Subaru)
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Old 04-30-2003, 07:18 PM   #11
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You may want to consider a Fumoto valve. $25 will get you a nifty device that lets you start draining the oil within seconds.

The drain plug in my RAV4 was easy, but the wagon's was so hard to remove that I installed a Fumoto valve at my last oil change. 2300 miles later and there have been no leaks. Oil change nirvana is now mine!

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Old 04-30-2003, 07:26 PM   #12
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It takes a 17mm if I remember correctly
Yep, definitely 17mm. I just finished changing my oil 10 minutes ago.
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Old 04-30-2003, 08:35 PM   #13
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the plug with the oil temp sensor is a whole different deal- a regular socket won't do, because there is a wire coming off it! I bought a big (19 mm?), hard to find flat wrench, which barely works. Who's the genius at Subaru who put the sensor on the drain plug!
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Old 05-01-2003, 02:53 AM   #14
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Gentlemen,

For the future.

17mm Socket and wrench,

Put it on as straight down as you can get it.

Whack it once with a deadblow or rubber hammer.
(Make sure lefty loosey)
Bingo!!

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Old 05-01-2003, 03:39 AM   #15
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yeah the trick is to use a 17mm socket, and hammer it on there, you need to get that thing on there straight and deep so it holds good.

once its on the bolt real straight and real tight, I had to sit in the front of the car with my legs under the front bumper and pull real hard (lefty loosey). it FINALLY came off
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Old 05-01-2003, 04:32 AM   #16
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Absolutely... the rubber mallet (hammer) own3z.

The nice thing about the WRX is that the drain plug and ESPECIALLY the oil filter are relatively easy to get to. I remember getting to the filter in my old prelude made me want to cry.

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Old 05-01-2003, 04:43 AM   #17
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The thing to do is pick up a set of two 1/2" drive breaker bars from www.harborfreight.com for about $14 total. Buy a Kobalt deep socket for your lug nuts, and a Kobalt normal socket for the oil drain plug ($3 or so each on closeout sale). Harborfreight also has its cheapo 1/2" drive torque wrench on sale for $10. For $30 total, you will never have a problem loosening the drain plug or lug nuts, and you'll have your wheels and drain plug torqued on right (no stripped lugs!). So cheap, who cares if they get stolen from your trunk/cargo area?
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Old 05-01-2003, 09:19 AM   #18
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After I bought my 00 RS used, I took it to Jiffy Lube for the first oil change since I was extremely busy and needed it done. I just changed it for myself a couple weekends ago, and those munkeys had the oil drain plug in there so tight I needed a breaker bar and some muscle to get it off.
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Old 05-01-2003, 09:51 AM   #19
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the oil filter is easy? what? my OBS is easy, the WRX is far from easy. there's absolutely no room to get a filter wrench up under there.
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Old 05-01-2003, 10:04 AM   #20
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Thanks for the tips guys. I finally got it off yesturday using a breaker bar.

The oil filter was suprisingly easy (i just used sand paper for grip). Only thing i didnt liek was the fact that i had to remove the under cover. Did you guys take off the bottom cover to remove the oil filter? I've read somewhere here that some of you dont even take the bottom cover off. I tried that yesturday and i dont see how that is possible. I couldnt even fit 2 hands under there. And if i could, wouldn't the oil just spill on the under cover?


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Old 05-01-2003, 11:11 AM   #21
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You don't need to take the undercover off to change the oil. I just reach under with one hand and undo it. If you just loosen it a little, the oil will start to leak out. I usually stop there and let the oil drain from there. When it has slowed/stopped, I undo the filter and replace it. You do get oil all over your hands, but it's not too bad once you've done it for a while.

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Old 05-01-2003, 11:50 AM   #22
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I'm with Armand1. I had a 1/2" breaker bar to break it loose the first time. I think it is because of the coating that they use for the oil pan and drain plug.

Anyway, remember to torque it to 32.5 ft. lbs. when you put it back on.
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Old 05-01-2003, 01:06 PM   #23
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You don't need to take the undercover off to change the oil. I just reach under with one hand and undo it. If you just loosen it a little, the oil will start to leak out. I usually stop there and let the oil drain from there. When it has slowed/stopped, I undo the filter and replace it. You do get oil all over your hands, but it's not too bad once you've done it for a while.

Calvin
If you're not going to reuse the filter canister, you can also take a hammer + nail and punch a hole in the side or bottom of the filter, and let it drain that way. With careful placement, you can aim the oil stream right into your catchpan!
You also won't get your hands as dirty, at least until you grab the filter to take it off. The upside is that you won't have uncontrolled spillage all over your hands. The downside is that draining the filter will take a while, so you might want to start with it, then pull the drain plug.

Rebellion - Have you thought about a cap-style oil filter wrench and attach to a 3/8" rachet? The regular kind that grab the side of the filter are very hard to work with in the space that you have.

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WRX is far from easy. there's absolutely no room to get a filter wrench up under there.
Yes, try one of those 3-armed hinged ones that tighten harder the more you turn them. Put one of those on a 3/8" drive ratchet and you're set.
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Actually the 04's have a full frontal underguard unlike the 02-03 half undergurad.
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