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Old 05-02-2003, 08:27 AM   #1
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Question Someone here has to know this!

What I currently have:
Car: 2003 WRX Wagon
Wheels: 17" x 7.5. 5x100 offset 48 ROTA SDR’s (not yet intslled)

What I want to get:
Springs: Prodrive on stock struts
Tires: Yokohama's ES100’s

Now my question…would the 2254517’s rub? I really want to get the 225’s but don’t want to roll my fenders. I know the 2154517’s would work fine, but just want to see if anyone here is running similar combo (with 225’s) with success.

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Old 05-02-2003, 10:47 AM   #2
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go with 215's since your wheel has a 48mm offset ...
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Old 05-02-2003, 11:09 AM   #3
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go with 215's since your wheel has a 48mm offset ...
Thanks Luke! That is the answer I expected...but deep inside was hopping someone would say the 225 would fit!
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Old 05-02-2003, 04:56 PM   #4
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Thanks Luke! That is the answer I expected...but deep inside was hopping someone would say the 225 would fit!
I was hoping that too. I have almost the same setup. The Prodrives have a pretty mild drop in the rear, so I was thinking I might be able to get away with replacing my 215/45 Azenis ST115. I believe the section width of the ES100 225s is 8.9" so it's fairly wide. For comparison, the Azenis in 225/45 is 9.1" wide.

Anyway good luck and keep us posted on your results.
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Old 05-02-2003, 05:27 PM   #5
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I was hoping that too. I have almost the same setup. The Prodrives have a pretty mild drop in the rear, so I was thinking I might be able to get away with replacing my 215/45 Azenis ST115. I believe the section width of the ES100 225s is 8.9" so it's fairly wide. For comparison, the Azenis in 225/45 is 9.1" wide.

Anyway good luck and keep us posted on your results.
well right now I'm debating if I should forget about the Prodrive springs and get 225's or get the springs and 215's
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Old 05-03-2003, 05:06 AM   #6
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if your car won't see any autox or track time, who cares...you will not feel ANY difference between 225 and 215 on the streets.
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Old 05-03-2003, 08:00 AM   #7
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if your car won't see any autox or track time, who cares...you will not feel ANY difference between 225 and 215 on the streets.
you got a good point there Subarist. But would the Prodrive springs definitely make the car more fun to drive vs the stock ones.

I know it will make the car a tad lower, but I'm all about function before looks.

thanks.
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Old 05-03-2003, 09:00 AM   #8
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But would the Prodrive springs definitely make the car more fun to drive vs the stock ones.

Without question, yes.

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Old 05-03-2003, 09:45 AM   #9
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Without question, yes.

- Trent
alrighty then. Going to order some 215 ES100's and try to get all of that installed next week.

Thanks for all the help guys!
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Old 05-03-2003, 12:52 PM   #10
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But would the Prodrive springs definitely make the car more fun to drive vs the stock ones.

Most definitely. I autocross on mine. Body lean is greatly reduced as are lift and dive.

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Old 05-04-2003, 02:23 AM   #11
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if your car won't see any autox or track time, who cares...you will not feel ANY difference between 225 and 215 on the streets.
But the speedo will be thrown off more so with the 215 than thr 225, right?

Also, this doesn't apply for the Sedan, right? 225 with 17x7.5 and even conservative springs like prodrive work fine, right?
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Old 05-04-2003, 08:08 AM   #12
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But the speedo will be thrown off
will it? by how much?
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Old 05-04-2003, 12:18 PM   #13
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On my WRX sedan I'm running 17" Attacks with 225/45-17 Yokohama avs es100's with Eibach pro-kit dprings - stock struts. Absolutely no fitment problems, no rubbing at all. Looks bad ass with the wide tred. I haven't broken traction yet. Handles like it'a on rails. Eats twisties for breakfast, lunch and dinner.
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will it? by how much?
From Miata.net
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

It's not much, but:

225/45/17 is .4% too slow. When the speedo reads 60 mph, you are actually travelling 60.2 mph

215/45/17 is 1% too fast. When the speedo reads 60 mph, you are actually travelling 59.4 mph.
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Old 05-04-2003, 02:16 PM   #15
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Chrisnonstop: That is cool, wish I could be 100% sure but knowing my luck, it would rub!!...so I'm not really willing to take the chance and simply ordered some 215's.

NeoteriX: Thanks a lot bro...that is really helpful!
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Old 05-06-2003, 04:47 PM   #16
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From Miata.net
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

It's not much, but:

225/45/17 is .4% too slow. When the speedo reads 60 mph, you are actually travelling 60.2 mph

215/45/17 is 1% too fast. When the speedo reads 60 mph, you are actually travelling 59.4 mph.
So if I'm doing the math correctly...if I'm going 120mph and I have 215/45/17's I'm only going about 118.8mph, right?
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So if I'm doing the math correctly...if I'm going 120mph and I have 215/45/17's I'm only going about 118.8mph, right?
Would that be 120mph on River Road, Lowball?

haha! Later!
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That would be 120 on Hwy 50 coming back from LT at 3:am Sunday morning! LOL

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Would that be 120mph on River Road, Lowball?

haha! Later!
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I think you will be very happy. I just put my SDR's on [02 wagon] at the weekend, with 215 ES100's. Personally, I think a 225 would be a little too floaty for me.

I'm also thinking about the Prodrive springs FWIW. I guess the smart thing would have been to get 225's, drive 'em until they just about needed replacing, then do the drop - and get 215's then if I rubbed. Unfortunately I'm not that smart
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I think you will be very happy. I just put my SDR's on [02 wagon] at the weekend, with 215 ES100's. Personally, I think a 225 would be a little too floaty for me.

I'm also thinking about the Prodrive springs FWIW. I guess the smart thing would have been to get 225's, drive 'em until they just about needed replacing, then do the drop - and get 215's then if I rubbed. Unfortunately I'm not that smart
yeah I got everything installed on Monday (SDR's, 215's ES100'
s, Prodrive Springs and control arm bushings)...oh man, it feels like a totally new car. It already felt good, but not it's just frekkin' great!! Not only did it increase the performance, its also looks good!

thanks to the guys (Oraland, Steve and Jamie) at Auto Innovations for doing all the work and supplying the parts!! They did an awesome job! Not only did they have killer prices, but the service was exceptional...done with great professionalism! Also great to just hang out while the work was being done..time flew by!
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