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Old 05-03-2003, 02:21 PM   #1
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Question RE-950 vs RE-750

Hey everyone,

Well, My RE-92's are about to get chunked and I would like to know what your opinions are on the RE-950's vs the RE-750. I know the performance of the RE-750 is higher then the RE-950 but is there much of a loss? It pretty much never snows here and is usually dry. These tires will be used for getting to work and haling ass around town and, of course, the weekend meets, but itís not going to be cornering at 120mph everyday. This will go on the stock 16inch rims on a wagon.

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Old 05-03-2003, 04:42 PM   #2
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It pretty much never snows here and is usually dry.
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Old 05-03-2003, 09:52 PM   #3
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If I lived in TX I'd go for the RE750s. Ultra high performance 'summer tires' are good in rain, too. Snow is the only area that they absolutely stink in. If it doesn't snow where you don't live than I would not buy all season tires. Just my $.02.

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Old 05-03-2003, 10:10 PM   #4
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If I lived in TX I'd go for the RE750s. Ultra high performance 'summer tires' are good in rain, too. Snow is the only area that they absolutely stink in. If it doesn't snow where you don't live than I would not buy all season tires. Just my $.02.

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Old 05-04-2003, 03:32 AM   #5
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Ditto.
****, I bought the 950s. They didnt have the 750s in stock and my RE-92s pretty much had it.
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Old 05-04-2003, 07:07 AM   #6
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Don't worry about it. I've heard good things about the RE950s...and they last a while, too. Just keep it in mind for your next tire change (which shouldn't be for a while with those tires).

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Old 05-04-2003, 01:43 PM   #7
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Don't worry about it. I've heard good things about the RE950s...and they last a while, too. Just keep it in mind for your next tire change (which shouldn't be for a while with those tires).

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Thanks One of the mail reasons I decided to go with the 950 is because of the 40K tread wear warranty. The 750 doesnít have a warranty.

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Old 05-05-2003, 05:26 PM   #8
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Probably because few summer tires would ever last that long.

Yeah, don't worry about it. The 950 is a good tire! It's actually what I wanted to buy, when I stopped by TireRack in IN a year ago. They only had three in stock though, so I opted for the Dunlop SP9000 instead. I love them, and definitely value summer tires, but around here a snowstorm can happen ANYtime, so I wanted the reassurance.

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Old 05-05-2003, 07:28 PM   #9
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Probably because few summer tires would ever last that long.

Yeah, don't worry about it. The 950 is a good tire! It's actually what I wanted to buy, when I stopped by TireRack in IN a year ago. They only had three in stock though, so I opted for the Dunlop SP9000 instead. I love them, and definitely value summer tires, but around here a snowstorm can happen ANYtime, so I wanted the reassurance.

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Ok, cool. Thanks for the reassurance. I decided to take a mild sprint down the S turns near my house and I am VERY pleased with these tires compared to the RE-92's.
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Old 07-26-2003, 05:33 PM   #10
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Default RE750/RE950 and 205/55 vs. 225/50 16

I live in Sunny So. California. NO SNOW. Some rain. I drive 2k miles a month. 1.5k of that is freeway (75-80 mph), with very aggressive cornering on interchanges, off ramps, etc. The stock RE92s have 5 /32" left at 30K miles, but the inside and outside edges are worn (probably from the negative camber AND hard cornering.) Is this wear pattern "normal"? Alignment seems fine, tires not feathering at all, no pulling to one side, etc. Wouldn't have gotten 30k+ miles out of them if something was wrong anyway. I run 36-38 psi FRONT and 32-34 psi REAR. The sidewall on the FRONT tires rolls HALF way under on hard turns. ALL of the lettering is marked at least half way through. I hear that is "normal". They also squeal like the guy in "Deliverance" on fast curves.

I need help deciding on which model and which size will best suit my needs (VERY good at hard corners, not much more noise than the RE92s and around 30k+ miles of wear). I know the RE950s have a 40k mile warranty, but I'd rather have more FUN and get 30k miles of tread wear, as long as the noise level is not loud. The RE750s are very new....maybe too new to have any decent feedback, other than that they are better than the RE730s. I don't want a tire that's too wide for the rim (yeah, they fit according to the chart, but do they FEEL like crap?)

I'm not a kid in my 20's with an open exhaust (Stromung axle back only) and I can still hear just fine (maybe better than the younger crowd!)

Some "helpful" advice would be appreciated.

ALSO, just thought about 205 or 215/50/16s. I know it will change the gearing and speedo somewhat. Not an issue UNLESS Subaru thinks it caused my piston slap (which started way before I needed tires!) That might cause too harsh of a ride though........not enough sidewall.


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Old 07-26-2003, 06:19 PM   #11
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I've had my RE-950s for about 10K miles on my stock wagon. This includes an I-10 run from Texas to California (85-90mph avg) and the pretty much daily, "Crap, I'm late for work again. I can handle this corner at 80mph". The tread hasnít worn down that much in the rear; the little "knobbies" are still there in between the tread. The fronts have worn down more, past the "knobbies", but not much more. I was in the market for the RE-750s also but I needed to get new tires soon and the local guys wouldnít have the RE-750s for a month so I got these. Overall I am happy with these tires. They corner, track, and brake better then the RE-92s. It hasnít rained much since I've had the tires but the times that it did the car felt solid. I used to run my RE-92s w/ 37f and 35r but the RE-950s didnít like those pressures so I lowered then to 35f and 32r. The sidewalls on the RE-950s are stronger then the RE-92s so I'm sure that has something to do with it. Also, these tires are a bit more quite then the RE-92s but I donít think by much.

All in all, I'd get these tires again instead over the RE-92s.

I remember you mentioning how much of the tread leans when you corner and these tend to bend about 50% down of the arced tread as well. There was one night where I took a corner way too fast (still made it through). In the end I checked the tread and it went about 75% down the arc tread so I think my pressure is right. (I really was stupid for taking the corner that fast.)
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Are you saying that the SIDEWALL of the tire (where the lettering is) is still contacting the road half way towards the rim?

I AM NOT BUYING RE92s!!

I think a lot of technology went into both the 950s and 750s. So this is a case of "tire design".......and "size does matter".

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Old 07-27-2003, 03:36 AM   #13
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Are you saying that the SIDEWALL of the tire (where the lettering is) is still contacting the road half way towards the rim?

I AM NOT BUYING RE92s!!

I think a lot of technology went into both the 950s and 750s. So this is a case of "tire design".......and "size does matter".
No, I didnt mean for it to sound like the sidewall is hitting the ground! You know how on the side of the tire the tread wraps around and make a 90 degree angle? That is the tread I was talking about, that is the half that contacts the road under hard cornering. NOT the sidewall.
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Old 07-27-2003, 10:22 AM   #14
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I got the picture now. I would call that the "shoulder" of the tire and expect that to roll somewhat.

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if it never snows where you are why would you want to sacrifice dry and wet handling for snow tration ????

the 750 is an Ultra High Performance tire while the 950 is a high performance All-Season tire which by design does exactly that ....

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I'm looking at purchasing the 750s but am waiting to see how they hold up.

I have a set of Sumitomo HTR-ZIIs that wore a little funny and now sound like a Mack truck going down the freeway. I'm religous about allignments and the tires still wore faster on the insides and sound rediculously loud.

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Old 07-28-2003, 07:24 PM   #17
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You are right.....I don't need a snow tire, but there must be some other differences too. Like noise level and ride comfort. The 750 is too new to know much about it, right? I expect less tread life from the 750s over the 950s. I DID email you quite a long letter, but haven't heard back (directly).

Should I also consider S-03s?

Should I consider other tire sizes?

Remember, I drive about 2k miles a month (25k a year), and 1.5k miles of that is at 75-80 mph commuting on the freeway (no traffic......whoopie!!), and taking evey opportunity (interchanges, "on" and "offramps") to corner HARD! Other than that, just a daily commuter, and occasionaly some canyon run/playing. No track time. Since I have 30k on the stock RE92s with 5/32" left, that should give you some idea of my driving and the condition of the alignment. As mentioned, the inside and outsides are worn more, but across the face is very even.



Thanks again.

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I have driven the 750's a few times and even know of people with 20,000= on them and they are still performing well with little noise but, (Columbo) for your exact driving conditions I think you would be doing yourself a dis-service if you do not atleast consider the Firehawk SZ50 EP from Firestone ..... with that much time on the highway ride quality should be a very high concern .... and you may want to look into a 225/50-16 size

just check out what others have said about the tire

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Since this Firestone is made in Japan by Bridgestone (with the same Bridgestone technology), just what are the differences (other than the obvious tread design)?

I thought about 225/50/16s but have mixed feelings about them on a 6 1/2" rim. I know it's at the low side of the recommended rim sizes. May have too much sidewall fex/bulging (unstable) or too stiff a ride (being 50 series). Any thoughts?

Thanks again for your help.
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I have driven many WRX's utilizing the 225/50-16 size with no issues and they do perform very well.
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I agree, I've had my 730's(precurser to 750's) for 6K and they seem to wear slower than other Z tires I've seen. They way I drive, I should be ready for new tires but I've got lots of tread left.
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S03's are far superior to the 750s and 950s if handling is what your after.
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I know the S03's are better handling tires, but this is my daily commuter and I need "some degree of quiet and comfort" as well as "more than 20k miles of tread wear."

I have not seen anymore comments on the Firestone SZ50 EP, and from what I read on TireRack.......it's always so subjective anyway!!

I think I'm gonna stick with the stock size and go with RE750s. NEXT time I can choose to go for a different type and/or size of tire.....if I feel the need to.

Thanks for your input.

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If you are stuck on either of these two tires I would have to agree with your choice of the 750 also. Have fun.
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Default surveys, first impressions, and a question...

I bought 205/55/16 BS RE750s today. After reading all the surveys on all the different brands and types of tires, it was almost unanimous that ANY tire is better than the RE92s. "Noticed an improvement right away, more planted, better turn in, quicker steering, better cornering grip, better wet grip, etc." All of this within a few miles to 1,000 miles of driving on the new tires.

My experience (almost 1 million miles of driving) has ALWAYS been one of disappoinment when I FIRST drive off with new tires. This was no exception. I know the reason, and hope that this tire will show MUCH improvement in a few weeks (I drive about 2,000 miles a month). I could corner MUCH faster/harder with the worn down RE92s.
Also, the car seems a bit slower off the line, but that could just be my imagination. Could it be the extra weight of the tires? I never could find out the weight of the 750s. I don't think it's because I'm back to "new" diameter tires. Maybe a combination of both? I never noticed this on any other vehicle, but I never had a turbo engine before (no boost off the line). A normally aspirated vehicle would not be so sensitive to this because of higher compression. (And I have an automatic transmission on this car.....but let's not get into that, okay?)

The question? Since these new tires have a higher load rating and a higher maximum air pressure (which I'm sure is way higher than I need, as was the case on the RE92s), where is a good starting point for air pressures for this tire? I'll bet Luke at Tirerack has some good information, right? Anyone have some useful info for me? The tire dealer put 40 psi in all of them.

Thanks.

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