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Old 05-05-2003, 01:06 PM   #1
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Unhappy Why are there so few (none) aftermarket struts for the WRX?

My spouse's Volvo has at least four aftermarket options (2 Bilsteins, Boge, Koni, maybe others too). What are there no aftermarket struts for the WRX? I know there is the Koni insert option, but why no full strut assembly?

I don't want a coil-over, I just want a firmer shock on stock springs. In particular, I'm a big mono-tube guy - why no entries from Tokico or Bilstein?

P.S. I don't consider STi an aftermarket gig.
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Old 05-05-2003, 01:15 PM   #2
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nnnn...not sure how you european car gurus do it, but for j- sportcompact guys, if you're gonna do improvements to the sus seriously we just go for coilovers.
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Old 05-05-2003, 01:32 PM   #3
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the simple answer is cost. by the time you buy a full strut and a set of springs, you might as well have purchsed some coilovers.

thanks.

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Old 05-05-2003, 01:59 PM   #4
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usually kyb comes out with a strut for almost every car that's somewhat performance oriented. they're definately taking their time, but i think it's also partly due to the fact that they make the spt struts and if they made their agx's, it would compete with the dealer option and there's probably some sort of agreement that no one knows about there. also when the sti comes out, they come with inverted struts stock and i'm sure they will become a dealer option in the future for the lesser models, so it's going to be pretty hard to beat that.
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Old 05-05-2003, 02:08 PM   #5
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yeah ... but the stupid thing is that you can't buy just the spt strut
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Old 05-05-2003, 02:18 PM   #6
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the simple answer is cost. by the time you buy a full strut and a set of springs, you might as well have purchsed some coilovers.

thanks.

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Not really. I purchased Bilstein mono-tube struts and shocks for my wife's Volvo for a grand total of $450. Add Eibach springs, for example, and that brings up a grand total of $700 for some really high quality stuff. I don't think you can find a monotube set-up for the WRX without spending more than $1500 for DMS or HKS, for example.

Someone give me non-adjustable mono-tubes without spending a fortune!!!

My dream-team set-up would be Bilstein mono-tubes with Prodrive springs.
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Old 05-05-2003, 02:51 PM   #7
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yeah ... but the stupid thing is that you can't buy just the spt strut
You CAN buy it! only thing is it cost more then the same strut AND a spring

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Old 05-05-2003, 06:07 PM   #8
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My dream-team set-up would be Bilstein mono-tubes with Prodrive springs.
Honestly, you may want to consider the Koni inserts with Prodrive springs. The install on the Konis is not bad at all and the combination of the two parts is outstanding IMHO. I just did this a few weeks ago and I'm very happy with it.

I'll agree with you that it seems funny there should be so few options, but I guess we really are talking a relatively low volume car here (relative to Civics, Mustangs, etc.)

Good luck!

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Old 05-05-2003, 09:29 PM   #9
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But for all the aftermarket parts that are already available for the WRX, it looks like they just got lazy with struts. I think that once the first struts become available, like the KYB's, they are going to sell a ton of them.
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Old 05-05-2003, 11:33 PM   #10
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Two years ago I went on an emailing campaign to KYB, Koni, Tokico, Bilstein and I was told very soon- two years!

As it turns out, I think it will be very hard to beat the KYB (STi) strut- 40mm piston and inverted. Damping to match the oe STi springs/STi lowering springs/STi RA springs. I don't think your going to beat these springs either.

There is only one strut I like better and that's the KYB (STi) adjustable- ofcourse this one costs.

BTW the struts are available by themselves- they just gouge you for them. I've seen several takeoff sets struts/springs sell for $700-800. Add some Group N tops and you've got a combination hard to beat IMO.

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Old 05-06-2003, 07:50 AM   #11
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Not really. I purchased Bilstein mono-tube struts and shocks for my wife's Volvo for a grand total of $450. Add Eibach springs, for example, and that brings up a grand total of $700 for some really high quality stuff.
It's all economics. (Think the developers profit & loss statements on their books)

How many WRXs on the road right now? Out of those, how many would want a strut tailor made for a wrx, just the strut? Add up research time, development time, parts, testng, etc... and all of a sudden it no longer is a viable option for a company to enter the market.

Now look at your volvo... how many of those cars on the road that would be able to accept or have drivers that want these struts? I'm willing to say at least 50x more than those that drive WRXs, just from the sheer quantity of them. Noones going to make a strut for just a few people if it will mean an operating loss.

Sorry, WRX is a 'boutique' car with probbly only 30K of them on the road right now, and maybe .25% want just struts. Ain't gonna happen.

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Old 05-06-2003, 10:05 AM   #12
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I will just add that in general you get what you pay for, the more expensive units normally have extra features that a direct insert will not.

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Old 05-06-2003, 12:21 PM   #13
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I believe they'll be out in the next year from a variety of companies. I've heard rumors from both Tokico and KYB. The WRX is NOT a low-volume vehicle by any stretch, and certainly companies like Tokico and KYB have made replacement struts/shocks for cars produced in much smaller numbers. The second generation MR2 comes to mind, as does the Honda S2000. Heck, Koni made replacement struts (not inserts) for the '98+ Ford Contour for god's sake, and that was 99% for the SVT owners, of which maybe 12k were made over three years.

These things just take time, and there's some incentive to wait. Most people don't do a suspension upgrade right away, so wait until the car has been out 2-3 years and THEN bring out your replacement/upgrade struts. They're on their way, just have to keep waiting.

I agree though, a set of Tokico 5-way adjustable Illuminas with some Prodrive or Eibach springs would be excellent to me, and not probably more than $800. I may end up going the Koni route if I get tired of waiting, or just get ripped off and use my Subaru Bucks to get the STi setup from a Subaru dealer. . .
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Old 05-06-2003, 01:00 PM   #14
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there are always a lot of rumors or promises made and keep getting delayed. kyb has been saying their agx struts would be available for the longest time now, i remember when it was going to be released last fall. i've sent an email every month and called in january and april, now the date is end on june or july, i won't be surprised to see it postponed even further.

the worst case is that autometer instrument dash bezel, the first i heard of that piece being available was in april 2002, it's still not done and now it probably never will be since they're going to be busy making stuff for the srt-4.

kyb already has all the dimensions and everything for the struts, they make the spt kit. i don't know what's taking so long, but i'm sure koni is feeling pretty good right now.
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Old 05-06-2003, 01:29 PM   #15
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The Prodrive struts that were to compliment the Prodrive springs also come to mind ,,,,,,,,,

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Old 05-06-2003, 07:39 PM   #16
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someone correct me if i'm wrong, but aren't the ver.7 sti struts an inverted monotube design? you can get take-offs of those for a very reasonable price (gruppe-s comes to mind...), sell the sti springs and match them with prodrives or other springs...
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and i agree about the autometer dash bezel... that thing is NEVER coming out
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