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Old 05-07-2003, 01:50 PM   #1
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Talking cost of JDM motors...

hello folks

i was just wondering how much you guys paid for your JDM STi motor setup....it seems that everywhere i look its about $7500 for a version 7....which is what i want....im actually looking for a used version 5 - 7 motor with Ecu, harness and crossmember....i know they are plenty full in japan....i really don't want to spend $7500 for a motor....oh i also live in hawaii...hopefully it will be an advantage if i ship it direct from japan....thanx guys

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Old 05-08-2003, 08:20 AM   #2
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If I was you I wouldnt get hung up on getting a v7. or even get hung up on getting STI. You can do it for much much cheaper. You could get the engine, tranny, ecu, cross member, sway bar, installed for about 7500-10000 if you went with an older STI engine, or a USDM wrx engine. Also with getting the USDM engine there is huge benifits...

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Old 05-08-2003, 08:59 AM   #3
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Upgrades for the USDM WRX will cross over to *most* JDM motors. An EJ20 is an EJ20. Even the exhaust stuff will work.

I do recommend that you don't get hung up on the V7, though. That will likely be THE MOST expensive drivetrain you can source. As long as you stick to MY99 (Ver. 5) and newer, you can get an ECUTek ECU upgrade. I think UTEC, also, but not sure.

When I did my drivetrain swap my Ver. 3 (MY97) drivetrain was just about twice the cost of a "normal" JDM WRX (MY98) engine with the same mileage. As long as you get a WRX motor from MY97 or newer, even the "normal" ones are 280hp. You just don't get the forged pistons, sodium filled valves, 8K RPM redline, etc.

Something to think about.

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Old 05-09-2003, 10:02 AM   #4
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thanx guys

the reason i want a version 7 is because it comes with forged pistons, sodium filled valves and etc...but i heard that the verion 6 isn't that bad either....there is a guy selling everything for a swap for about $4500....thats not bad at all...considering i was quoted $7500 from lachute....both of which with no tranny....i don't hear a lot about the version 6....how is that different?? is there a place i can read about the different engine specs??? thanx again

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Old 05-09-2003, 10:13 AM   #5
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You can start here:

http://www.northursalia.com/index1.html

Lots of good information about the various STi models.

Also check out www.spdusa.com , there is some good information there about JDM/STi cars, as well.

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Old 05-09-2003, 10:57 AM   #6
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ver 5/6/7 are all basicly the same motor an ej207 ... they all have " forged pistons, sodium filled valves and etc"

4500 is ok... your gonna want the tranny..the only benifit of buying from lachute is there reuptation.. it will come with what you need or they can get it for you
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Old 05-09-2003, 04:45 PM   #7
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Question what about the USDM WRX motor?

what's the cost on a USDM WRX motor/ECU/harness tranny?
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Old 05-10-2003, 04:35 PM   #8
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~2000-2500

there is one in private for 1900

reallllly whish i had gone this direction with my project
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Old 05-12-2003, 10:44 AM   #9
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ver 5/6/7 are all basicly the same motor an ej207 ... they all have " forged pistons, sodium filled valves and etc"
They are not all the same engines, only version 7 as sodium valves and VVT heads, different turbos on all of them, and there are 3 different transmissions in each one.

We also stand behind what we sell, and always have full tech and customor support and have never had any trouble with any of the kits we sell, tune or build.

I suggest that ask around and will find out that our reputation preceeds us.

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Old 05-12-2003, 11:41 PM   #10
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Ver. V and VI have the sodium filled valves.. just no AVCS heads.
Trannies on the V and VI are near identical as well... of course, the VII has the 6 speed which is superior.

$5500 got me a new in crate ver. V RA engine 2 years ago..
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Old 05-13-2003, 04:28 AM   #11
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Ver. V and VI have the sodium filled valves.. just no AVCS heads.
Trannies on the V and VI are near identical as well... of course, the VII has the 6 speed which is superior.

$5500 got me a new in crate ver. V RA engine 2 years ago..
wow was that shipped?? thats what i had in mind..to spend about $5000 for a motor...i still have to save up for the install...thanx for all the respones
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Old 05-13-2003, 07:45 AM   #12
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Nope, that wasn't shipped. I had in air freighted and in my hands in 3 days, for an additional $1500 or so.


I wouldn't recommend starting with just an engine to anyone. It's nice to have something brand new.. but lemme tell you, collecting all the little BS parts that *come* with a complete swap is tedious, time consuming and more expensive than any of you want to know.

Think about it. you start with a brand new engine.. then you need an intercooler. Do you really want to put a nasty used IC on there? Well a NEW STi unit is pricey.. so why not upgrade from the start to something like an HKS? Same with a turbo. (crate motors come with no IC and no turbo) And if you've done that, well you need other mods to support those... See how it all kinda spirals? And thats not even considering the little crap, like fans, different coolant bottles, etc. etc..

Anyway.. i'd say if you can find a complete drivetrain that's not high mileage, jump on it.
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Old 05-22-2003, 04:42 AM   #13
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3500 for a ver. 7.... not a bad price, but also no garentee really either..... http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2416341220
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Old 05-22-2003, 03:24 PM   #14
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Im pretty sure this is the same guy on ebay who has ripped of many people who bought sr20det and never recieved them. One of my friends bought from this guy in montreal and tok his money.

Always go through a good source.
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Old 05-22-2003, 05:24 PM   #15
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yeah i've seen that around...kindda too good to be true deals...com'on 3500 for a version 7 motor?? i've been qouted at lachute about 7500 for a motor cross member ECU and harness...the pic looks like the pic off of lachute's website...notice the guy in the backround with the jeans....
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Old 05-22-2003, 10:31 PM   #16
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yeah, he's got no rating. It's a fraud.
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Old 05-23-2003, 10:40 AM   #17
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I got a Ver2 motor, drivetrain - all the way out to the suspension, both engine wiring harnesses, ECU, and aluminium hood for only $2200. Sometimes "to good to be true" is true.

Oh, and my source is a secret so don't ask.
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Old 05-24-2003, 01:48 AM   #18
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I got a Ver2 motor, drivetrain - all the way out to the suspension, both engine wiring harnesses, ECU, and aluminium hood for only $2200. Sometimes "to good to be true" is true.

Oh, and my source is a secret so don't ask.
Well nanana. Thanks for contributing to the club you POS
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Old 05-24-2003, 08:43 AM   #19
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Yeah Puck, that's a jackass thing to say. If you aren't gonna offer up any worthwhile info, than just keep it to yourself.

"I got mine, so go screw yourself." Great attitude KID.... enjoy your beat ass old ver. 2 engine, ya jerk.
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Old 05-24-2003, 07:09 PM   #21
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I paid $7800 for my clip. It was a Ver 6 STi Type R 5-Speed with DCCD. It was almost new with about 3k miles on it. It included all drive line, 4 pot brakes, 2pot rear 4.44 gears and inverted struts, complete uncut harness/ecu, gauge cluster and fuel pump. also came with all the goodies type r/ra have,intercooler spray, carbon fiber strut bar, alum lower control arms. Only things missing were the seats and steering wheel. Why do you want a ver 7, the AVCS heads and slightly larger intercooler is not worth the extra money. If you are serious i can hook you up with my connection in Japan, he will ship it straight to you.
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Dam, yo, what's up with jumping all over Puck? The whole point of this post was about the costs of a jdm STi EJ20, so I see nothing wrong with him saying he got a complete set up for $2200. And if you're annoyed at his tongue-in-cheek joke about the source, you need to lighten up...

My first swap was a non-STi TD05-16g EJ20G pushing out ~325 hp, and man did that thing hit hard! Unfortunately I paid $3700+ $800 shipping for the front clip (no hood), and when it arrived it ended up being a '94 GF8! I was told I was getting a '95 GC8, so I had to source the bigger TD05 turbo separately, etc. That's what I get for buying from a no-name source.

My second front clip is a '93 GC8 with 54k miles, came with engine, tranny, rear diff, wheels, complete exhaust, driveshaft, front/rear brakes+suspension+axles, hood, Nardi steering wheel/shift knob, headlights, clear corners, both front fenders, dash, gauge cluster...basically it is the most complete clip I've ever seen...it ran $3550 + $1000 shipping. It looks like I'll only need a pedal assembly for the hydraulic clutch, and some routine stuff, like replacing some of the hoses under the hood.
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yeah i've seen that around...kindda too good to be true deals...com'on 3500 for a version 7 motor?? i've been qouted at lachute about 7500 for a motor cross member ECU and harness...the pic looks like the pic off of lachute's website...notice the guy in the backround with the jeans....
That is Me in the picture, and that is our motor !!!! Heheheh, what do you know. I think the fact that people take pictures of our kits says something as well.

We are not in the buisness of ripping people off. We do charge more for our kits than a lot of places, but it is because often WE PAY MORE FOR THEM !!!!

We do not make much of the parts, it is the labor and serivce that we enjoy and ends up coming back afterwards.

Please do not hesitate to contact us and speak with Julien or myself.

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I paid $7800 for my clip. It was a Ver 6 STi Type R 5-Speed with DCCD. It was almost new with about 3k miles on it. It included all drive line, 4 pot brakes, 2pot rear 4.44 gears and inverted struts, complete uncut harness/ecu, gauge cluster and fuel pump. also came with all the goodies type r/ra have,intercooler spray, carbon fiber strut bar, alum lower control arms. Only things missing were the seats and steering wheel. Why do you want a ver 7, the AVCS heads and slightly larger intercooler is not worth the extra money. If you are serious i can hook you up with my connection in Japan, he will ship it straight to you.
Sounds like an awesome deal. The only thing I would want to change is the 4:44 gears. Wow that's short. Can those clips come with the thinner RA windows?
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The best part of this clip are the gears! With fuel cut above 8000rpm these are a real blast. 1st and 2nd gear go so fast, but at the end of 2nd i am doing 62mph. 0-60 times are insane. The only downside is the engine screams on the highway. If your exhaust isnt too loud and you dont mind seeing your tach at 5000rpm for miles on end then these are sweet! No i didnt get any glass with the clip, not sure if i ever seen any clips come with glass or doors.
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