my swap progress - Page 2

cardin555 · 06-02-2003, 04:11 PM

Hope you find the problem Jaxx. I am planning the same thing with my car... a 96 jdm swap. Can't decide if I am going to swap tranny also or keep the original. Lachute will probably do the swap.

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scoobyimprza · 06-02-2003, 11:11 PM

can u give some details about the a/w i/c setup u had. u didnt run a seperate radiator? PM me if you have to, i wanna know all the details.

also, whats the efficiency of the air-to-air i/c without a hood scoop?

Brent

Jaxx · 06-02-2003, 11:33 PM

no not really iit came with the motor .. i pondered using the a/c condenser as a heat exchangre but found an air to air i/c .... never fired the car with the air to water on it.. the air to water is for sale (BUY IT!!! )

air to air dunno still getting base line tuning down .. hit 25 mph at .5 bar today for the first time (think baby steps)

then my right front wheel berring sezed so i guess ill have to fix that first..

scoobyimprza · 06-03-2003, 12:07 AM

i have the an a/w i/c, but i dont wanna take the time to do all that work. u think i'd be safe using an a/a with an EJ18 with a TD04 running around .4 bar boost?

Imprezd · 06-03-2003, 09:26 AM

Hey Jaxx nice setup you got going their buddy..

I am curious to what clutch setup you are running, I willing to believe that you kept the cable setup instead of going with a push type WRX.

I will be shortly going down this road as well..

Thanks,
Imprezd~

Jaxx · 06-03-2003, 11:05 AM

the clutch ah yes...

turns out that there are 2 sizes of subaru push clutch (either will work) with a cable-push or hydrolic-push i bought both my flywheel and clutch used .. proublem is that i got a 8 7/8 clutch and a 8 1/2 fly wheel

ended up using another 8.5 inch clutch that we have no idea what it came from. it is definatly stiff but the friction disk we used is to thick so it does not like to dis-engage

edit:more on the air to water here look at the bmp files they are from the AU srevice manual click here

stimpy · 06-03-2003, 01:40 PM

Stupid front wheel bearings. Who needs those?? I hope it wasn't a traumatic experience...

-Jon

Jaxx · 01-28-2007, 07:54 PM

so in the quest for bankruptcy last fall i bought an 96 ej20k(vf-22) w/ a 4.44

so yes i am starting with an working ej20g w/ standalone
but i want a stock like drive-ability

so today i started the wiring
i am using what i have started calling the "rich" method -unless he comes up with a better name
the idea is that you keep the stock harness intact
and create a standalone harness that runs the engine .. you then splice in the wires you need
any way i stated with this diagram and this excel sheet

so after sitting for 3 months (busy time of year at work) today i stripped the harness down to what i think i need

kheff46 · 01-29-2007, 10:28 AM

jaxx- was the flywheel the EZ3.0 MT one from ebay?

--keith

Jaxx · 01-29-2007, 01:29 PM

highly unlikely .. look at the date of the post, i still have it in the garage .. no idea what it is for

Matt Monson · 01-29-2007, 02:18 PM

old threads FTW...

kheff46 · 01-29-2007, 05:11 PM

im a douche!

old threads = arch nemesis

HellBinder · 01-31-2007, 10:04 PM

how hards the Tec2 to wire, compared to using my OEM computer (ive got a RHD 94 Legacy with EJ20 swap, and im down to just the wiring and plumbing an exhaust)

Zephyr · 02-01-2007, 09:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HellBinder

how hards the Tec2 to wire, compared to using my OEM computer (ive got a RHD 94 Legacy with EJ20 swap, and im down to just the wiring and plumbing an exhaust)

It is pretty easy to wire it is hard to get it to run right unless you really know what you are doing.

Z

Matt Monson · 02-01-2007, 11:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zephyr

It is pretty easy to wire it is hard to get it to run right unless you really know what you are doing.

Z

As jaxx found out firsthand. IIRC, it literally took him over a year to really get it sorted out...

Jaxx · 02-01-2007, 12:22 PM

yes but now i have maps ... its not getting it to run, its getting it to idle especially when its cold

do you have the vishnu wiring guide?

kaos200 · 02-01-2007, 01:11 PM

I've used the tec II, tec III multiple times and wired quite a few swaps let me know if you guys need any help.

kaos200 · 02-01-2007, 01:16 PM

Jaxx it seems you have the wiring diagram for your EJ20g why not just use that ecu?

Matt Monson · 02-01-2007, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaos200

Jaxx it seems you have the wiring diagram for your EJ20g why not just use that ecu?

Because he recently got an EJ20K, and ECU with it, and the plugs are totally different...

Jaxx · 02-01-2007, 11:07 PM

my G didn't have a harness or ecu ..it was only $600 plus it was a 200 ps version

once you have a good TOG the tec is actaully pretty easy (w/ a wideband and correction turned off)

target 11.2 under boost add advance till it knocks then back off a few

kaos200 · 02-02-2007, 10:07 PM

I love the tec, I have no idea where my old tec II maps are though. I'm still using the t3 on one of my cars, just hate mafs on a 4" intake

, and I don't see any benefit on adding a blow-through maf and flashing when it runs just fine.

Jaxx · 02-03-2007, 03:08 PM

yeah the tec3 is light years ahead of the 2 though

in hind site it was a very good ecu to learn on

Jaxx · 03-11-2007, 01:58 PM

well time has come to take the G out
final shot

tec2 in a box

Jaxx · 03-11-2007, 07:58 PM

and after a 3.5 quarts of shockproofrookiemistake

gone

i was counting the number of non factory harness that went through the firewall

1 boost gage map sensor
2 fuel pressure sensor
3 EGT sensor
4 vacuum hose for boost control
5 boost control solenoid
6 wideband
7 tec uplink cable

changing the peddle box will be interesting ..

civic2scooby · 03-11-2007, 11:00 PM

so wait...why are you going ej20k???

06-03-2003, 11:05 AM	#31
Jaxx NASIOC Supporter Member#: 177 Join Date: Aug 1999 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Boise,Idaho,USA Vehicle: The 93 Imp W/EJ20K flat black	the clutch ah yes... turns out that there are 2 sizes of subaru push clutch (either will work) with a cable-push or hydrolic-push i bought both my flywheel and clutch used .. proublem is that i got a 8 7/8 clutch and a 8 1/2 fly wheel ended up using another 8.5 inch clutch that we have no idea what it came from. it is definatly stiff but the friction disk we used is to thick so it does not like to dis-engage edit:more on the air to water here look at the bmp files they are from the AU srevice manual click here Last edited by Jaxx; 06-03-2003 at 01:11 PM.

02-02-2007, 10:07 PM	#46
kaos200 Scooby Guru Member#: 2692 Join Date: Oct 2000 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: SoCal	I love the tec, I have no idea where my old tec II maps are though. I'm still using the t3 on one of my cars, just hate mafs on a 4" intake, and I don't see any benefit on adding a blow-through maf and flashing when it runs just fine. Last edited by kaos200; 02-02-2007 at 10:15 PM.

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06-02-2003, 11:11 PM	#27
scoobyimprza Scooby Guru Member#: 24956 Join Date: Sep 2002 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Littlestown PA Vehicle: 1997 Impreza WRX Steel Blue Mica	can u give some details about the a/w i/c setup u had. u didnt run a seperate radiator? PM me if you have to, i wanna know all the details. also, whats the efficiency of the air-to-air i/c without a hood scoop? Brent

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Jaxx NASIOC Supporter Member#: 177 Join Date: Aug 1999 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Boise,Idaho,USA Vehicle: The 93 Imp W/EJ20K flat black	no not really iit came with the motor .. i pondered using the a/c condenser as a heat exchangre but found an air to air i/c .... never fired the car with the air to water on it.. the air to water is for sale (BUY IT!!! ) air to air dunno still getting base line tuning down .. hit 25 mph at .5 bar today for the first time (think baby steps) then my right front wheel berring sezed so i guess ill have to fix that first..

06-03-2003, 12:07 AM	#29
scoobyimprza Scooby Guru Member#: 24956 Join Date: Sep 2002 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Littlestown PA Vehicle: 1997 Impreza WRX Steel Blue Mica	i have the an a/w i/c, but i dont wanna take the time to do all that work. u think i'd be safe using an a/a with an EJ18 with a TD04 running around .4 bar boost?

06-03-2003, 09:26 AM	#30
Imprezd Scooby Specialist Member#: 3357 Join Date: Dec 2000 Chapter/Region: MAIC Location: Gburg, Maryland (East Coast) Vehicle: 2002 WRX Black	Hey Jaxx nice setup you got going their buddy.. I am curious to what clutch setup you are running, I willing to believe that you kept the cable setup instead of going with a push type WRX. I will be shortly going down this road as well.. Thanks, Imprezd~

06-03-2003, 01:40 PM	#32
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01-28-2007, 07:54 PM	#33
Jaxx NASIOC Supporter Member#: 177 Join Date: Aug 1999 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Boise,Idaho,USA Vehicle: The 93 Imp W/EJ20K flat black	so in the quest for bankruptcy last fall i bought an 96 ej20k(vf-22) w/ a 4.44 so yes i am starting with an working ej20g w/ standalone but i want a stock like drive-ability so today i started the wiring i am using what i have started calling the "rich" method -unless he comes up with a better name the idea is that you keep the stock harness intact and create a standalone harness that runs the engine .. you then splice in the wires you need any way i stated with this diagram and this excel sheet so after sitting for 3 months (busy time of year at work) today i stripped the harness down to what i think i need

01-29-2007, 10:28 AM	#34
kheff46 Scooby Specialist Member#: 66739 Join Date: Jul 2004 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Medina, Ohio Vehicle: 2002 WRX wagon silver	jaxx- was the flywheel the EZ3.0 MT one from ebay? --keith

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01-29-2007, 05:11 PM	#37
kheff46 Scooby Specialist Member#: 66739 Join Date: Jul 2004 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: Medina, Ohio Vehicle: 2002 WRX wagon silver	im a douche! old threads = arch nemesis

01-31-2007, 10:04 PM	#38
HellBinder Scooby Newbie Member#: 132385 Join Date: Nov 2006 Chapter/Region: AKIC Location: Palmer, Ak Vehicle: 94 RHD Legacy w/wrx swap. White	how hards the Tec2 to wire, compared to using my OEM computer (ive got a RHD 94 Legacy with EJ20 swap, and im down to just the wiring and plumbing an exhaust)

02-01-2007, 12:22 PM	#41
Jaxx NASIOC Supporter Member#: 177 Join Date: Aug 1999 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Boise,Idaho,USA Vehicle: The 93 Imp W/EJ20K flat black	yes but now i have maps ... its not getting it to run, its getting it to idle especially when its cold do you have the vishnu wiring guide?

02-01-2007, 01:11 PM	#42
kaos200 Scooby Guru Member#: 2692 Join Date: Oct 2000 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: SoCal	I've used the tec II, tec III multiple times and wired quite a few swaps let me know if you guys need any help.

02-01-2007, 01:16 PM	#43
kaos200 Scooby Guru Member#: 2692 Join Date: Oct 2000 Chapter/Region: SCIC Location: SoCal	Jaxx it seems you have the wiring diagram for your EJ20g why not just use that ecu?

02-01-2007, 11:07 PM	#45
Jaxx NASIOC Supporter Member#: 177 Join Date: Aug 1999 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Boise,Idaho,USA Vehicle: The 93 Imp W/EJ20K flat black	my G didn't have a harness or ecu ..it was only $600 plus it was a 200 ps version once you have a good TOG the tec is actaully pretty easy (w/ a wideband and correction turned off) target 11.2 under boost add advance till it knocks then back off a few

02-03-2007, 03:08 PM	#47
Jaxx NASIOC Supporter Member#: 177 Join Date: Aug 1999 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Boise,Idaho,USA Vehicle: The 93 Imp W/EJ20K flat black	yeah the tec3 is light years ahead of the 2 though in hind site it was a very good ecu to learn on

03-11-2007, 01:58 PM	#48
Jaxx NASIOC Supporter Member#: 177 Join Date: Aug 1999 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Boise,Idaho,USA Vehicle: The 93 Imp W/EJ20K flat black	well time has come to take the G out final shot tec2 in a box

03-11-2007, 07:58 PM	#49
Jaxx NASIOC Supporter Member#: 177 Join Date: Aug 1999 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Boise,Idaho,USA Vehicle: The 93 Imp W/EJ20K flat black	and after a 3.5 quarts of shockproofrookiemistake gone i was counting the number of non factory harness that went through the firewall 1 boost gage map sensor 2 fuel pressure sensor 3 EGT sensor 4 vacuum hose for boost control 5 boost control solenoid 6 wideband 7 tec uplink cable changing the peddle box will be interesting ..

03-11-2007, 11:00 PM	#50
civic2scooby Scooby Specialist Member#: 78658 Join Date: Jan 2005 Chapter/Region: MWSOC Location: East Lansing Michign Vehicle: 2005 LGT Limited Black/Black	so wait...why are you going ej20k???