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Old 05-26-2003, 10:10 PM   #1
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Hi guys.

I know this has been covered many times before, but I'm hoping for new ideas.

I'm having a heck of a time breaking the seal on the oil pan. Ive tried rubber mallet, screwdriver prying it off, but just can't get it to budge.

Any other ideas? Thanks guys.
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Old 05-26-2003, 10:15 PM   #2
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Best way: take a real thing flexible knife, then try to push it through the seal. You can run the knife along the edge, but don't drive the knife too much inside the pan. After you're done about 2/3 the way, you should be able to "peel" it off.

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Old 05-26-2003, 10:16 PM   #3
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Do you mean like a butter knife?
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Old 05-26-2003, 10:26 PM   #4
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That was tough for me too. Luckily I bought a WRX pan from subaru first....put the oil return bung on that one...then thuroghly mutilated the stock one taking it off. I wish I had a better idea for ya...I'd try the knife thing.....maybe like a filet knife?

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Old 05-26-2003, 10:37 PM   #5
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Something a little thinner than a butter knife. Try a very thin knife. That's how i got my pan off in a couple minutes.

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Old 05-26-2003, 10:43 PM   #6
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I dont care about mutalating it. I have a new pan anyways too

I still cant think of what kind of knife you mean?
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Old 05-26-2003, 11:14 PM   #7
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If you don't care about messing up your old oil pan, use a big hammer and start knocking on it. Worked for me.
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Old 05-26-2003, 11:31 PM   #8
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I found a metal putty knife works well with a hammer.
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Old 05-27-2003, 12:19 AM   #9
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Hi guys. Thanks for all the suggestions. I will look into putty knife. Do you just put it on the join and use a hammer to drive it in?

Im taking a look at the service manual and it says this :

"Insert a oil pan cutter blade between cylin-
der block-to-oil pan clearance and remove the
oil pan."

Anyone know what a oil pan cutter blade is? Is this a standard tool (they dont list a subaru pn for it)
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Old 05-27-2003, 01:43 AM   #10
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Yeah just kind of wiggle it in and knock it in with a hammer works great I have done 8 oil pans and had no problems.
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No no and no.

Just use a friggen screwdriver and catch an edge and pry it up at a corner (pry the tip away from the block, not into the block). It'll marr the surface of the block only very minorly if you're not brutal with it, but if you use the grey sealant, it'll fill in those minor marrs. I've put a 1/8 to 3/16" deep marr at one point and the sealant just filled it in, no problem.

If you're REALLY paranoid (and patient), use something like dental floss to slice through the sealant and pull the pan off when you get through a corner or so of it.
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Old 05-27-2003, 03:27 AM   #12
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steak knife then exacto knife... you need to get the seals off...
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Alright thanks guys. I will try some of these ideas.

Subaru dealer claims they dont use that cutter tool, and they just pull the pan and it comes off?!?!?!

HOK, when are you back in Calgary?
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Make sure you get all of the sealant off the block before putting the new pan on.
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Old 05-27-2003, 12:43 PM   #15
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being on a lift and being on your backis entirely two different things heheh the leverage you get while your feet are dangling and pulling on the pan is pretty easy hahahah...

dude... soon... soon.. i'll be drag racing you see me around ehehhe
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Make sure you get all of the sealant off the block before putting the new pan on.
I first need to get that far hehe


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being on a lift and being on your backis entirely two different things heheh the leverage you get while your feet are dangling and pulling on the pan is pretty easy hahahah...
I dunno man. I pounded the heck out of the pan with a rubber mallet and it wouldnt budge. The sealant seams very hard (not gooey) on my car (74,000km's). Maybe thats part of the problem.

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You better watch out!!! haha. j/k
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being on a lift and being on your backis entirely two different things heheh the leverage you get while your feet are dangling and pulling on the pan is pretty easy hahahah...
Thats true, but I never got how it'd be so much easier on your feet. I've taken a hold of the oil pan by the dipstick tube and oil drain and friggen hung from it, and kinda shook myself around trying to pop it. Guarantee you 300lbs. of force at points. *shrug*
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I had the same problem you did and I also tried scraping the RTV sealent off between the block and the pan but no luck. I finally gave up and used "Thors's hammer" and knocked that sucker off. Ruined my old pan of course but it came off.
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I had the same problem you did and I also tried scraping the RTV sealent off between the block and the pan but no luck. I finally gave up and used "Thors's hammer" and knocked that sucker off. Ruined my old pan of course but it came off.
I think im getting close to that!


I have one corner kind of loosening. Im scared to push the screwdriver in any further though incase of scratching the block. But the real question is, isnt the new silicone going to fill in the scratch anyways? Should I just get brutal with this thing now ? Ive spent 2 days on just the friggen pan!
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When I pulled mine, I worked it over with a rubber mallet, then used a putty knife and hammer in one of the joints, then switched back to the mallet, etc.. After 3 or 4 cycles, it got quite loose and peeled off. Took me maybe 15 minutes.

I had over 100,000 miles on the car - I doubt yours is set up any tougher then the sealant on my pan. Just keep working at it.

And, just because I don't think anyone asked yet - You did get all the bolts out, right? The ones in the back are pretty hard to get at.....

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I have one corner kind of loosening. Im scared to push the screwdriver in any further though incase of scratching the block. But the real question is, isnt the new silicone going to fill in the scratch anyways? Should I just get brutal with this thing now ? Ive spent 2 days on just the friggen pan!
Yeah, give it a bit more pressure. Trust me... with even the normal amount of sealant (IIRC, the manuals say 2mm layer) you'll be able to fill it in if you scratch it even badly. Also, try grabbing the dipstick tube and pulling a bit... thats the normal handle I end up using to get that bastage off.
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Yay I won!!

Haha, Finally got it off (actually I got my dad to do it while I played on the internet ).


And for those curious, I did it without having to jack the motor. Just loosened the the pickup a bit and out it came no problem (after getting that seal off!)

Thanks guys...!
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Thats true, but I never got how it'd be so much easier on your feet. I've taken a hold of the oil pan by the dipstick tube and oil drain and friggen hung from it, and kinda shook myself around trying to pop it. Guarantee you 300lbs. of force at points. *shrug*
murphys inverse law...
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the law of everything is easier on a lift...
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