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Old 05-27-2003, 03:20 AM   #1
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Default Please be safe out there, guys... (wrecked my Camry)

(I posted most of this under the Canyon Run thread, but thought some other people might want to see it)

Hey guys, please be careful out there. I now know what can happen while out driving mountain roads.

I had just prepared the Camry for this past Sunday's auto-x and was out testing my car when:





I lost control going around a decieving corner, hit a telephone pole, a tree then back across the road and rolled down a 15 foot rocky drop and came to rest in a small streambed.

I was able to walk away, amazingly. But I REALLY don't want to see anyone else have a similar or worse experience. This was a wake-up call to me to stay well within my limits until I'm in a controlled environment.

I will deal with the chipped teeth and glass in my arm but no more canyon running for me for a while.

REMEMBER: BE SAFE!

-Charlie

PS. Lots more pictures here: http://www.imagestation.com/album/?id=4290085591

PPS. For those of you that don't know, it was not your average Camry - springs, struts, swaybars, stickier wider tires and engine mods were all in place. It handled better than my stock WRX...


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Old 05-27-2003, 03:28 AM   #2
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Wow Charlie... Glad you're okay!

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Old 05-27-2003, 03:31 AM   #3
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I agree.
My ex rolled his car "practicing" on the roads by Idyllwild.
He pretty much would have killed his passenger if someone had been in the car. It's just so dangerous!
I'm glad you're okay too!

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Old 05-27-2003, 03:36 AM   #4
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rolling in a car is definatley not any fun. especially when the car sucks! ps, don't roll a mustang!
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Old 05-27-2003, 03:38 AM   #5
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ouCh....

my favorite Camry toO!!

Glad you came out alive.... tho....that's the most important...

God must have special plans for you....
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Old 05-27-2003, 08:58 AM   #6
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Holy bat crap!
With all that damage, I would say you came out in pristine shape.
Your crash sounds more like a bad pinball experience. Glad to see you are resonably OK.
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Old 05-27-2003, 11:57 AM   #7
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WOW HOLY ***** I am glad you were able to walk away from that crash, and that you're ok. Makes me wanna get a roll cage now.
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Old 05-27-2003, 12:11 PM   #8
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WOW HOLY ***** I am glad you were able to walk away from that crash, and that you're ok. Makes me wanna get a roll cage now.
You mean you're not gonna scold him about crossing the line on the side of the road? Cuz that's illegal ya know....

Gotta fly!
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Old 05-27-2003, 12:21 PM   #9
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Wow thats amazing that you walked away, glad someone was watching out for you.
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Old 05-27-2003, 12:31 PM   #10
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First off good to hear you are ok. I saw the post for the Canyon Run before the weekend and decided to keep my mouth shut for a change but........ C,mon guys this is why we nag about NOT driving this way on public roads. You cannot practice on canyon roads all it takes is a little sand or gravel around a blind corner and instant waded car. With all the track days , Rally-X and Auto-X there is no reason to be hanging it out on some canyon road.Nothing wrong with a nice drive down a scenic road but you will likely find you limits in a ditch.

Tom Grossmann LVR SCCA.

PS: I've done many a dumb thing on the road before discovering the track and luck not skill is the only reason I never waded a car.
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Old 05-27-2003, 12:32 PM   #11
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Not even a concussion? Wow! You are one lucky person to be able to walk away from that.

On a semi-related note, I was just watching a paramedic show on cable, and the paramedic was trying to persuade an injured driver to get in the ambulance, while the concussed driver (with blood streaming down his front) was saying he was fine and wanted to drive home ... in the nearly cut-in-half car right in front of him. He kept saying "no I'm fine, I'll drive home, and if there's any trouble I'll call 911." And the paramedic was like "Dude! We ARE 911!"
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Old 05-27-2003, 12:42 PM   #12
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You mean you're not gonna scold him about crossing the line on the side of the road? Cuz that's illegal ya know....

Gotta fly!
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Didn't I tell you to shut up 2 weeks ago?? Why are you still talking?
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Old 05-27-2003, 12:52 PM   #13
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You don't have the seniority, n00b....

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Old 05-27-2003, 12:55 PM   #14
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I don't care....SHUT UP already!
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Old 05-27-2003, 12:59 PM   #15
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It sounds like jennifer has more issues than a magazine rack.

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Old 05-27-2003, 01:00 PM   #16
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ok, I guess I'll just do that because you said so.....

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Old 05-27-2003, 01:06 PM   #17
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ok, I guess I'll just do that because you said so.....

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Yeah if you know what's good for you, you'll shut it lil BIATCH! .....ok enough taking over the camry thread....phattyduck glad to hear you're ok....
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Old 05-28-2003, 01:08 AM   #18
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Damn, When you said bad, I though okay crushed door and such! I can't believe you came out of that with the minor cuts and bruises!

Good to see that you were able to walk out of that one!

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Old 05-28-2003, 03:20 AM   #19
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Project Jennifer and Habu: Out of my thread if you don't want to stay on topic, please...

I had a long talk with my boss at work today after he totally chewed me out for driving too fast on a mountain road. It turns out a dangerous driver almost killed his brother when he was young (in a coma for 43 days!). Its a dangerous world out there guys... I got lucky once, and I don't think it will happen again. (the boss and I came out of the conversation with no hard feelings or anything... we both have stuff to work through)

I'll see you all at the track when I want to drive fast again.

-Charlie


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Old 05-28-2003, 03:30 AM   #20
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this sounds way too familiar,
Charlie glad to see you are ok, my friend and I experienced the same thing last November, and I can't express enough how lucky we are to be alive at the moment.
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Old 05-28-2003, 11:55 AM   #21
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Charlie you've got guts - not ducking the issue with the boss. Also keep going to the track. The more you hang out around racers , Autocrossers and Rally people you will find everyone of us has plenty of stories about ill advised driving on the road. (I prefer to call them dumb things I've done with cars and motorcycles rather than ill-advised. ) Hopefully people will take your advice on being road safe - you don't have to drive like a Granny on your favorite canyon road but it is no place to be hanging it out - too many things beyond a drivers control.


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PS does your insurance company know?
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Old 05-28-2003, 01:48 PM   #22
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PS does your insurance company know?
Yeah. They know. The police came to the scene and I did go to the hospital, so they would have found out anyway. There were no witnesses to the accident though, so I might get away without a citation.

There was no collision coverage on the car though... They are probably only going to have to pay for the telephone pole (if/when I get charged for it - though no services were ever interupted). Otherwise, I'll be covering all the costs of the accident. Its too bad almost all of the aftermarket stuff on the car was destroyed... I won't be able to pull much money out of the car. I still won't know for a while how much my insurance will go up or if they will drop me (I have AAA, so I might not be considered a good enough driver anymore).

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Old 05-28-2003, 01:49 PM   #23
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I'm glad your o.k. Charlie. It sounds like you learned your lesson the hard way. I appreciate the fact that you admit the danger you put yourself (and others) in when you drive dangerously on public roads. I hope others can learn from this before making the same mistake themselves. Good post.

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Old 05-28-2003, 02:39 PM   #24
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Charlie I know the feeling of smashed parts - I once left my home at 10 pm on my bike and brought it home in boxes at 1 A.M. not a great feeling. Depending what you put on the Police report you're insurance may let you slide on this one. The "only" advantage to crashing the bike is you and your buddies can throw the resulting hunk of metal in the back of a truck - of course hitting a pole on a bike will likely get you a ride to the morgue vs. the hospital. Salvage what you can off the Camry and go have fun at Auto-X with your Sube.

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Old 05-28-2003, 05:45 PM   #25
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Salvage what you can off the Camry and go have fun at Auto-X with your Sube.

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That's totally my plan. I have already salvaged the parts that I can from the Camry... I'll be trying to sell those to my Camry buddies soon.

The only things I told the police at the scene were "I lost control around the corner back there" and "I guess I must have been going too fast." I really do have no idea how fast I was going... They never asked me if I was drinking or really any other questions other than, "What happened?" I guess they saw my car and figured I learned my lesson?

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