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Old 07-04-2014, 11:14 PM   #1
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Hey guys,

I have an 09 sti, running on 17" bbs rims, rce yellow springs and a rear subtle solutions 3/8" rear saggy butt shim. (Bought it that way, added the spacers)

I love how it handles, and how when fully loaded for a weekend of skiing/camping etc the butt doesn't sag down at all!
However it's too low for me, even with the rear shim. 5.5" of front ground clearance isnt enough, I don't like this lowered look or practicality

What's the point of having a rally inspired car if it is bad on dirt roads!

Just wondering if I got the king springs nistead how it would change things?
Would the rear sag more under load?
How much height might I gain?
How much change in handling am I likely to find?

Thanks for the help guys.
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Old 07-05-2014, 07:03 PM   #2
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I heard that the king springs were simply the sport springs for some SUV. I think it was small Suzuki. Anyway if anyone knows or can figure It out it would open up other options as well which might be helpful.
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Old 07-05-2014, 07:41 PM   #3
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You could also consider the RCE Blacks, it would give you an extra half inch of ride height with similar spring rates.
Since you're in Langley, have you talked to Dale's? They definitely know their stuff when it comes to Subie suspension!
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Old 07-06-2014, 12:11 PM   #4
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Hey guys, thanks for the opinions.

Dales is fantastic, I have gotten all my work done there.
Just didn't wanna hassle them for their opinion/expertise until I knew if it was even what I wanted.

Just trying to kinda figure out from others how the king springs handle and if anyone has any direct comparison between the rce yellows.

I hear black is a nice compromise
Yellow is a stiffer and lower version of the blacks (esp stiffer in the rear... Aka no saggy butt under load)
And that king springs are a lift 1.5" to 2", but also stiffer, but I don't know how much stiffer.

Anyone confirm/refute any of those thoughts?
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Old 07-07-2014, 10:07 AM   #5
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King doesn't release their spring rates. they just say they're 25-30% stiffer than "stock", and the stock rates for the 08-09 STi are 217# F and 194#R... same as 09-14 WRX's. so, they may end up around WRX RCE Black territory? (275#F/250#R) just a guess though.

anthony is a vendor here and sells King springs:
http://www.vaughnperformance.com/
he's quite knowledgeable about rally/rallyx suspension.

if you want to keep it around stock height, King "standard" springs will only raise a GR about .5". their lifting springs lift a GR 1.5".

on a GD, the standard springs are the same height as stock.
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Old 12-21-2014, 10:13 PM   #6
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I'm curious how this turned out. I have been thinking about getting a 2011 STi and taking it back to its roots (somewhat) by giving it a bit more groundclearance
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Old 12-22-2014, 01:30 AM   #7
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I heard that the king springs were simply the sport springs for some SUV. I think it was small Suzuki. Anyway if anyone knows or can figure It out it would open up other options as well which might be helpful.

Curious where you heard this.

Kings make lowering springs in Australia too. Here, dealers have only imported the lift and OE heights.
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Old 12-22-2014, 02:04 AM   #8
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The biggest challenge with the Kings with a GR is not the spring itself but which damper to match them with.

There is nothing that is matched to them. Best option used to be Feal inserts but Feal doesn't make them anymore. Koni is the next option (because they are adjustable) for DD. But not if you rallyx. If you do rallyx then the best option is probably the GTWORX Bilsteins (I have this, and arguably they are also a great DD/autox/track day option too).

The kings are great springs. I've had them on a GG, and now a GR. My buddy has them on his GD. It's like having SPT pinks but with a lift or OE height; very "rally inspired daily practical driver".
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Old 12-22-2014, 02:06 AM   #9
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Btw. What about getting some 2011-14 STI take offs? Similar spring rate to the Kings with inverted front monotube's and supposedly reasonable damping profile.

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Old 03-11-2015, 07:16 AM   #10
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OP what did you end up doing? I've been considering standard height king springs for my 14 WRX.

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