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Old 05-30-2003, 06:21 PM   #1
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weeks. Selling my 2001 Audi S4 for it (people tell me I'm crazy but they speak as non-driving enthusiasts). If it doesn't sell I want to trade it in. Any suggestions?
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Old 05-30-2003, 10:20 PM   #2
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Speaking as an auto enthusiast, you are crazy. You can mod the crap out of an S4 and you still have the refinement of an Audi. You are seriously considering giving up an S4 for an STi? Stop, put down the crack pipe, and walk away...slowly : )
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Old 05-30-2003, 10:48 PM   #3
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You could always make your S4 more exciting with APR Stage 3.
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Old 05-30-2003, 11:04 PM   #4
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Speaking as an auto enthusiast, you are crazy. You can mod the crap out of an S4 and you still have the refinement of an Audi. You are seriously considering giving up an S4 for an STi? Stop, put down the crack pipe, and walk away...slowly : )
The S4 is an overweight, overrated, expensive pig. You pay for sound deadening and quality interior pieces both of which do NOTHING for a driving enthusiast. That's just MHO. Take it for what it's worth.
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Old 05-31-2003, 06:44 AM   #5
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You missed the point of what the S4 was built to accomplish. Those things will plain move with a few mods.
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Old 05-31-2003, 09:05 AM   #6
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Gills,

Do you own an S4........ever driven one ?

With a few grand in mods the S4 makes one hell of a car. Maybe I'm on crack, but I prefer my modded S4 to the 996 C4 I had before it.
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Old 05-31-2003, 09:25 AM   #7
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Gills,

Do you own an S4........ever driven one ?

With a few grand in mods the S4 makes one hell of a car. Maybe I'm on crack, but I prefer my modded S4 to the 996 C4 I had before it.
Yes, as a matter of fact i have. My brother owns one and i drive it a lot and it doesn't do much for me. The driving position is cramped and crooked. The shifter is probably one of the worst shfiters i've ever used. The armrest gets in the way and the rubbery long, "lost" throws are very unconvincing to say the least. His whole radio had to be replaced because it decided to just stop working on him. And yes, you can spend LOTS of money to make it go fast, but again, you have to spend LOTS of money. I'm not saying it's a bad car by any means, it's a great car. It's comfy(but cramped) and has a very quiet and smooth ride because of it's porkiness that's great for cruising and long trips. But if Evil-STi wants to get a car purely for "enthusiatic" driving, the STi will hand the S4 the white flag to wave. Yes, i haven't driving the STi YET, but we all know it will.
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Old 05-31-2003, 10:02 AM   #8
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Some valid points.....some not-so valid points.

I was particularly unimpressed with the peformance/handling of the stock S4, so much so that I nearly didn't buy it. However, after I finished my test drive there was a guy hanging around the dealership who sells/fits a lot of aftermarket tuner parts for Audis.

10 minutes later, sporting a new MTM-programmed ECU (MTM are unofficially to Audi what AMG are to Merc and Alpina are to BMW) the performance was totally transformed. Add in a 3" cat-back exhaust and some improved diverter valves your pumping out around 320 bhp and 370 lb/ft of torque (curb weight of 3550 lbs versus the STi's 3260 or so....not exactly an overweight pig).

The stock handling certainly leaves something to be desired, so this was improved with a set of MTM springs...nothing more. Since most of my driving is done on the street (not track) and roads around here are generally pot-hole infested, that transformation was good enough for me. Certainly with coilovers and new sway bars etc. you can take the handling to new levels (but yes, it's more costly and too much for some people).

Add on a short-shifter and a new set of lightweight alloys (the stock 17" Avus wheels weigh 27lbs each !!) and I'm done.........relatively cheap mods (around $3k) and the car is now worthy of the "S" name.

Mine hasn't missed a beat in 3 years and it was modded from "day 1" (had the wiper blades replaced a few times !!). Did change the "Y" and "F" pipes (very cheap and quick to do), just to be safe, since these are common problem areas on the early S4s.

If the STi is too "raw" for your tastes, then a used S4 with some cheap mods would be a viable alternative....that's for certain !!
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Old 05-31-2003, 10:17 AM   #9
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Some valid points.....some not-so valid points.

(curb weight of 3550 lbs versus the STi's 3260 or so....not exactly an overweight pig).

300lbs is A LOT of weight. You ever drive with someone who weighs 300lbs in your car? or ever even tried to pick up 300lbs? oh boy, hernia anyone?!

Otherwise, yes, i'm aware of your other aspects, but mod for dollar, the S4 loses the fight.
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Old 05-31-2003, 11:32 AM   #10
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I like the Subaru dealer in Flemington, NJ. They also do not jack up the price.

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Old 06-01-2003, 02:09 AM   #11
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For what it's worth
I live in the southern partof the state near philly. When I put money down in October, Cherry Hill wasn't taking preorders, so I preordered in Delaware at Matt Slap. They did me good. MSRP, and friendly service to boot.
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Old 06-01-2003, 10:45 AM   #12
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I like the Subaru dealer in Flemington, NJ. They also do not jack up the price.

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I checked this weekend and no STi's on their lot or in the showroom. Have yet to see an STi in NJ. Lots of WRXs running around makes me want to get the STi just to be different.
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Old 06-01-2003, 11:38 AM   #13
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what ever you do dont buy from lynnes in bloomfield, dont even look, bad people very bad, stay away.

you can also cruise throught the tri-state area forum for more info about local dealers, also there is a thread in the 'threads of note' with a list of dealers.

lets keep this on topic.

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Old 06-02-2003, 09:38 AM   #14
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i second that...

lynne's sales - bad
lynne's service dept. - worse

just drive by and give them the finger
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Old 06-02-2003, 10:42 AM   #15
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Drive your ass out to Allentwown, PA and go to Becker Subaru. Worth the trip.
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Old 06-02-2003, 10:48 AM   #16
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I checked this weekend and no STi's on their lot or in the showroom. Have yet to see an STi in NJ. Lots of WRXs running around makes me want to get the STi just to be different.
You won't see an STi on their lot unless it is being prepped. The waiting list goes into 2004, unless someone backs out.

Evil, I would think that most dealers have waiting lists and you're not going to have much luck.

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Old 06-09-2003, 02:31 PM   #17
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There are 2 STi's available at Freehold Subaru, but I'd stay away due to the fact that they're $5000 over MSRP. I went to check cuz I got my WRX there at $300 over invoice...

just my .02

oh...and I'm not sure, but I heard the dealer in Lakewood, NJ is good, but I'm not sure about their stock or waiting lists. Sorry.

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Old 06-09-2003, 08:43 PM   #18
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Whatever you do stay away from Subaru of Morristown, their service sucks, I mean it really, really sucks.
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