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View Poll Results: Which would you buy?
G35 w/ AWD 9 23.68%
Turbo Legacy 29 76.32%
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Old 06-05-2003, 07:18 PM   #1
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Default G35 w/ AWD or New Turbo Legacy GT

Just Curious...

i plan on trading in my car next yr...

the G35 w/ AWD should arrive this winter (hopefully around the same time as the new Turbo Legacy GT)...

G35 Sedan's (260HP) are going for around 27K, i figure w/ the AWD option it should be around 29K....

around the same ballbark (i pray) as the new legacy w/ turbo...

which would you rather have...

a 3.5L V6

or

a 2.5L Turbo 4 banger...

both i figure will have similar HP...

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Old 06-05-2003, 07:24 PM   #2
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I vote turbo Legacy. More practical. And due to the fact that I have the original, and would die to get my hands on the new generation one.

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Old 06-05-2003, 07:54 PM   #3
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You obviously know what kind of answer you'll get by posting on the Legacy board right?
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Old 06-05-2003, 08:00 PM   #4
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i'll take the Legacy G35 combo please
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Old 06-05-2003, 08:14 PM   #5
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Default It's like comparing diamonds to glass.

Let's see....G35:
-Motortrend Car of the year.
-Infinity quality and luxury.
-Powerful V6 and soon to have AWD.

New Legacy GT:
-Hasn't proved jack, especially in its class thus far.
-little luxury compared to Lexus, Infinity, BMW.
-4 cyl with Turbo = no power till you hit 4k+ rpms

Yes I own a Legacy but it's the biggest POS I have ever owned.
After 2 tranny's, new heads, a/c compressor, radiator, 2 thermostats, catylitic convertor, 2 sets of rotors, igniton coil(left me stranded on NJ turnpike), headliner, leaky sunroof, and 1 paint job for crappy paint, I am done!
If you want to be at the dealership once a month, by a 2000 Legacy. BTW - Their coffee is not that bad.
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Old 06-05-2003, 08:20 PM   #6
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You obviously know what kind of answer you'll get by posting on the Legacy board right?
yea...i guess i do...

but i figured it would make a good discussion...

i am hoping that the G35 AWD is the one found on the FX35/45

the same one found on the GT-R...

from nissannews.com

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The ATTESA E-TS (Advanced Total Traction Engineering System for All Electronic Torque Split) all-wheel drive system utilized on FX45 uses an advanced torque split control strategy that automatically transfers optimum torque to the wheels according to road and driving conditions. It provides outstanding cornering capability similar to a sports car due to optimum torque distribution for front and rear (0:100 up to 50:50). The system also provides high starting traction performance and smooth, stable acceleration, especially in snow-covered or off-road situations with the driver-selectable Auto/Lock AWD mode providing maximum traction.
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Old 06-05-2003, 08:36 PM   #7
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WOW! Didnt even know that was coming. I just suggested someone to purchhase the two door g35.

I just hope that the AWD g35 has the 280 hp engine instead of the weak one

BMW is screwed! Who would purchase a 325 or now 325xi/330xi!!!
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Old 06-05-2003, 08:54 PM   #8
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After 2 tranny's, new heads, a/c compressor, radiator, 2 thermostats, catylitic convertor, 2 sets of rotors, igniton coil(left me stranded on NJ turnpike), headliner, leaky sunroof, and 1 paint job for crappy paint, I am done!
What did u do with this car?? I have never head of ANY car going through 2 trannys in 2 and a half years.

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Old 06-05-2003, 08:58 PM   #9
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MekoNY,

looks like you got a lemon...
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Old 06-05-2003, 09:19 PM   #10
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Which do you want? On-paper power or on-road fun?

And the Attessa system is expensive - don't expect only a 2k jump in price if they ship it with that. It's also heavy - 260hp sounds like a lot, but how much weight will it be moving vs. the Subaru?

The 2.5turbo doesn't wait till 4000rpm to get on power - it's much, much, much sooner than that. I'm sorry for the person that got a lemon, and then continued to keep it, but that doesn't mean that the rest of the cars are bad.

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Old 06-05-2003, 09:49 PM   #11
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thats a tough one, those infinities are really nice, i really like the new designs on that G35. However, i would think that Subaru still has the superior AWD system. I like being unique, and while more people may start to buy the Legacy Turbo it will still be a fairly unknown car, and it is also very unique looking in its own right. I love my legacy, the only thing missing is the power(which will be remedied shortly) the new 2.5T should be awesome. Isnt the G35 a coupe as well? i guess it depends if you want that or not, the legacy can give you some nice space and still be able to move since they reduced the weight even. It's a toss up, i would go for the subaru, but i havent driven either of them and i am biased so there you go

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Old 06-06-2003, 09:28 AM   #12
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What did u do with this car?? I have never head of ANY car going through 2 trannys in 2 and a half years.

Mark,
Nothing. My car is 100% stock except for a B4 grill and K&N filter. I think the reason my car blows is because it doesn't like to be pushed like other cars. Unlike Honda's......Subaru's don't like to be driven hard, especially because of their AWD characteristics. My car is a 4AT but I drive it aggressively 3/4 of the time. I drive it like it's stolen, but my Subaru drivetrain can't handle it, so it breaks.
BTW - My car has NEVER been autox or taken to the track, just driven hard to and from work. All hwy driving for 25 miles each way doing an avg. of 75-90mph. Other cars don't seem to complain, but mine always has. It's a pussdog.

Maybe I did get a lemon, but it still doesn't change my opinion. There are a dozen more reasons why I wouldn't get a Legacy again. I've been burned and learned my lesson.
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Old 06-06-2003, 09:56 AM   #13
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That sucks, maybe your car was made on a monday or something. But the majority of the Legacy gang are dead loyal to their cars and vice versa. One of ours has 260 000 mi (93) and it just wont die, factory original everything. It's sad to see an owner dissapointed by one. Oh well, hope you stick to subaru though.

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Old 06-06-2003, 10:15 AM   #14
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The discussion is moot...no G35 wagon, so screw Infiniti.

I drove my '98 Legacy GT wagon like I stole it, and that car absolutely loved to be driven hard. I had no unscheduled maintenance of any kind, and once I put some DMS coilovers on it, it could keep with RSes.

I did do the odd track day, and plenty of fast driving. Man, that wagon rocked. I think that most people's Legacy experiences differ from yours, and I certainly can't blame you for not wanting to sign on for that program. I will never buy another Chrysler product, after my engine mounts began clunking on a Caravan after 50K miles, and the Dodge rep said "That's normal wear and tear, so it isn't covered in your 60K powertrain warranty."

But, I think that it's fair to suggest that you qualify statements with "my," for example, "My Subaru doesn't like to be driven hard, as opposed to the blanket, "Subarus don't like to be driven hard."

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Old 06-06-2003, 10:20 AM   #15
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Sucks that you got a lemon MekoNY - BTW what has Subaru got to say about your experience?

For the record, I love my Subaru - and I drive it hard all year round (100% stock . . . for now ) and it's got about 95K km on it - no problems to date.

I think I'd have to pick the Leg Turbo - less mainstream, an amazing AWD system and probably only a little less power.
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Old 06-06-2003, 10:34 AM   #16
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Infinity = Overpriced Nissan
I still don't understand why a car company would build 2 mechanically identical cars, slap different names on them and charge $2000 to $6000 more on the one they deem "Luxury".

If the build quality and comfort of the new '03 Legacy (our 4th Subaru) we recently picked up is any indication of where Subaru is headed I'd definitly choose the Legacy. Plus any increase in price will more than likely be due to improvements...not just a different name stuck on the trunk.
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Old 06-06-2003, 11:20 AM   #17
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Ummm...overpriced nissan? Dude where are you comming from? Nissan isn't like gm or ford where they just slapp on a new name plate. Well excpect for the i30/maxima and the pathfinder/qx4, but if you even look at them there are very different as far as looks/upgrades are. Mechanically they are very similar but not exact. Most infinity have more power than there cousin car and different suspension etc..
Anway, I didn't know the g35 was comming with awd! Nissan owns a pretty big stake in subaru so i wonder how much of their technology they can "Barrow"?
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Old 06-06-2003, 11:48 AM   #18
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a friend of mine owns a g35. it's a sweet car. gobs of power on tap, gets better gas mileage than my '97 OB (only drinks premium though, so i think i still get the last laugh), excellent interior, etc. It may be an auto, but I still beat everyone at the light!

I am however a subaru fan, even if I had the notorious clutch problems. So far I haven't been hit by head gaskets (touch wood). It will be a close call, but I think Subaru will present better value for money.. 27k for a g35 is pretty much bare bones, IIRC. 27k for a Legacy will get you almost everything you could want. Well, everything you could want that the dealer would offer under warranty.
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Old 06-06-2003, 12:57 PM   #19
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I still don't understand why a car company would build 2 mechanically identical cars, slap different names on them and charge $2000 to $6000 more on the one they deem "Luxury".
First of all, its Infiniti. Second, the G35 sedan has no Nissan counterpart. The FM platform it is built upon is used by the G35 coupe, 350Z, and the FX35/45 SUV's. So, there are no mechanically identical cars on this platform in the Nissan line. Finally, they build these with a different name because they can sell them for a higher price. Pure market economics.

I love our G35 sedan. I doubt you'd be able to find one for $29K with AWD unless you ordered a low-option version. The VQ35 engine is an impressive performer. Low rpm torque is very nice and it also has a nice higher rpm rush. We would have bought two Legacys (wagon instead of my VW Passat, sedan instead of the G35) when we were shopping if they'd had some guts. Hopefully SOA realizes that higher HP versions will sell if they are offered.

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Old 06-06-2003, 01:40 PM   #20
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i got the price for the G35...from

www.carsdirect.com

using zip 10001 for the sedan...

price $26,921 (this is for the cloth one....dont want leather)

only options are
body kit & rear spoiler - $2,360
Splash Guards - $98
Trunk mat & space saver spare tire - $57

not bad....

i figured the $2k for the AWD
by looking at the Nissan Murano
price difference between the SE model w/ FWD & AWD is $1,599
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Old 06-06-2003, 02:12 PM   #21
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NYCshopper: Thats for the slow one though. Look at the coupe specs and then you will realize its what you REALLY want.

http://www.infiniti.com/content/0,,c...-12001,00.html
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Old 06-06-2003, 02:36 PM   #22
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Talking Trust me, it's not slow!

Magazine tests have shown 0-60 times for the automatic sedan in the low 6 second range. Coupes have been shown in the high 5 second range. Both are much faster than any current Legacy. He also stated he was looking at the sedan in his first post.

For balance, have you tried this same poll over at www.freshalloy.com ?

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Old 06-06-2003, 03:29 PM   #23
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heh...yeah...need the sedan...plan on walking down the aisle next yr.....sedan will come in handy for the "future" little ones

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Old 06-06-2003, 03:48 PM   #24
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Go for the Legacy Turbo.

MekoNY: I drive my Legacy like it's stolen also, I have not had a single problem with it yet. Mine's an '01.
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Old 06-06-2003, 05:41 PM   #25
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Are there any performance specs for the Japan version of the new Legacy ? Its going to come down to price, I don't think the Legacy Turbo will be as expensive as the G35 whcih makes it much more attractive. The current G35 is a ton more expensive than the current Legacy GT , I imagine an AWD G35 will be that much more expensive. Can't see the Legacy going up in price by 40% [ except for an STI ] Once again, the 2.5T has never been publicly tested so no one [ ok , mostly no-one ] here has any clue of how it performs. Kinda hard to make a decision based on congecture.
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