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Old 06-08-2003, 08:00 PM   #1
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Question How to mount Driving lights above bumper

I am thinking about picking up a pair of Hella 500s and mounting them from the grill or bumper of my legacy. I know that richeich has done this, and I like how his turned out, but I'm looking for details on how to install them. If it's possible I would like them to be removeable.

I'm thinking that it would be possible to cut out the inner portion of the grill and make a support coming from underneath the grill. Has anybody tried this?
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Old 06-09-2003, 04:39 PM   #2
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I think Jamie (subiegal) had a bar rigged up like that. Check with her, or maybe her website. Maybe she's still got her Legacy section up with a bunch of info on her car (before it was totaled). www.subiegal.com I think it is.

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Oh- you know, I assumed that you know how I've got mine mounted.... Do you? They're not removable (quickly, anyway). In a nutshell, I removed the bumper cover, drilled holes through the cover and some metal reinforcement bars, or 'plates', that I installed under the skin to add sturdiness to the setup. That's pretty much it. They do shake a bit over rough road surfaces, but not too bad. If I ever removed them, I'd just have to use a couple of body plugs or something painted to match the bumper.

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Old 06-09-2003, 05:24 PM   #3
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Actually I really wasn't sure how you did it, but I was thinking along the lines of what you just said. Did you have to remove the bumper to add reinforcement?

Thanks for the help!
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Old 06-09-2003, 06:11 PM   #4
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Why not mount them directly in front of the bumper?
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Old 06-09-2003, 06:44 PM   #5
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Subie Gal was selling them at one point. from what she told me there were just a zig-zag type set up. just some metal sections welded together and bolted to the front of the car.
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Old 06-09-2003, 09:07 PM   #6
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Hmmmm... I looked but can't find them on her site. I may have to ask her about it.

ciper - I'm trying to locate them as high as possible. I would probably mount them in the stock fog location for simplicity/aesthetics, but I am more interested in functionality.

If I get a set and make my own mounts, I will be sure to post pictures and instructions.
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Old 06-09-2003, 09:17 PM   #7
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i think these are what she had, or these might be grill suport.



damn she had an awsome car.


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Old 06-09-2003, 09:52 PM   #8
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Yeah she did

I browsed through the pictures but all I saw was two horns on that one... glad you pointed it out. I think that is essentially what I will make
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Old 06-10-2003, 01:04 PM   #9
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that design was okay at best guys...

it was cheap and easy, but the lights bounced like strobes

on the RS i went the route of a "U" shaped bracket
1/4" aluminum...
fit over the front of the bumper face,
then was bolted through with large bolt/spacer/nut combo
and tightened down from the top...




front of light bar was drilled to hold 2-4 lights (up to you)



end result was much much more stable:


tough install though! be warned!
you have to drill through the back bit of the bumper beam/support ... not easy but worked well...

please, feel free to ask questions guys.
i dont mind helping out at all... still miss my GT...

RIP





have fun
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Old 06-10-2003, 03:32 PM   #10
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Hmmmm... I do like the way you wrapped it around the bumper on your RS. Time to go look at my car again

edit - after looking at the car, it will have to be a bigger "U" than yours, but it looks like a good way to do it. Thanks for the help!

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Old 06-10-2003, 03:42 PM   #11
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These work:





They've been on there for a year now with no tightening required. The aim is a little off, but that's my fault for installing them during the day.
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Old 06-12-2003, 06:28 PM   #12
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Lightbulb these work too...



Hella 500's even

no bouncing - rock solid
don't come out of align
removable (with a wrench, plugs inside)
cheep!

it's a piece of 1.25" angle iron, hammered over to be slightly less than 90 dgrees (hellas don't tip back past 90 degrees), ground out a curve to conform to the bumper (cover) under the grill. Drilled down though the bumper as far forward as possible (given the shape of the inside of the bumper - measure it carefully). bolted to the bumper with two 5 inch bolts, nuts on other end (blind wrenching). Wire into high beams only!

I have since switched to clear covers, so I don't have to stop and take them off

oh yeah, spray painted black

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Old 06-13-2003, 02:22 AM   #13
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Why should you only wire in the high beams? can't i just run them off a independent switch to turn on/off anytime i want.??
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Old 06-13-2003, 08:49 AM   #14
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From what I hear, when you mount the lights in that location and aim them properly you will blind everything in your path. So it makes sense to only have them on with the high beams, and it's more convenient than an extra switch

At least, I think that's why he said that.
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Old 06-13-2003, 06:25 PM   #15
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Default high beams because...

To be legal you have to hook them up to run only when the high-beams are on, or rather, so they can't run when the high beams are off (and so you have a dashboard indicator that you are blinding someone )

I have a separate switch that allows them to be turned off when the high beams are still on, and they run trough their own relays.

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From what I hear, when you mount the lights in that location and aim them properly you will blind everything in your path.
Yes they do, and kill small animals and strip paint but the real point is, you can see everything in your path

since they are so rude to point at people, you want a quick, habitualy trained way to turn them off ( and they kick b_tt for "flash - to - pass )
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I wasn't aware it wasn't legal to have them hooked up independent of the factory lighting system.

Oops.
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Old 07-12-2003, 04:42 PM   #17
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Hey Subie Gal,
Are there any pics of this bracket off the car or better yet any design drawings?? I want to make something similar for my 2000 Legacy Outback so that I will be able to SEE what is down the road at night. ( I live relatively out in the country). Also are there any detailed install pics or instructions around? I dont have alot of downtime available to ponder the innerds of my car on the garage floor.

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Old 07-12-2003, 06:48 PM   #18
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http://members.nasioc.com/ViewMember...52&PicNumber=4

flip between the pictures

Everything in those pictures can be bought from home depot. I now also use zip ties to secure the light so the mounting point doesnt turn on me. Been working like a charm for over a year now

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Thanks Kevin, I might try something like that on mine as soon as I get a JOB and have some play money. I havent looked at the pictures real closely yet but how did you attach the angle iron to the bumper? Did you attach it to the metal support or just to the bumper material?

Thanks again,
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There was no drilling involved. The grill in a sense acts as the meat in a sandwhich....there are two pieces of that angle steel that act as the bread. One "L" piece of steel slides between the bumper skin and the bumper beam. Do this on each side. Reinstall the grill, and then slide another another piece of the steel between the grill and the top of the bumper skin.

I think the rest should be pretty straight forward by the photos Good luck with it!
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