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Old 06-10-2003, 05:45 PM   #1
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I helping my buddy locate a 2001 or 2002 BMW M-Coupe (or possibly a roadster) in Texas for sale. If you know of one for sale anywhere in Texas, let me know. Color doesn't really matter, but white is not preferred.
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Old 06-10-2003, 06:58 PM   #2
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http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=372191

It's not a 2001-2002, but you don't need the bigger engine. One of my friends had a 2000 and we totalled it in a neighborhood. He ran through 2 brick mailboxes and nailed a 4Runner. The 240hp engine is plenty fast and handles nicely. If you're not interested in that one I'd suggest you look on cars.com or ebay...

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Old 06-11-2003, 12:02 PM   #3
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315 vs 240 = BIG difference (75hp), just like WRX vs STi (73hp). 227 definately ain't plenty. But thanks anyway.

Any word of a 2001-2002 for sale, let me know.
If you know of a good BMW forum like this forum, let me know.
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Old 06-11-2003, 08:03 PM   #4
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http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/show...hreadid=372191

It's not a 2001-2002, but you don't need the bigger engine. One of my friends had a 2000 and we totalled it in a neighborhood. He ran through 2 brick mailboxes and nailed a 4Runner. The 240hp engine is plenty fast and handles nicely.
hmm.. i drive one of the wussie ones and can honestly say that it sounds like your friendwas drunk, showing off, or just cant drive.. or got hit by someone doing all of that..all of which really doesn't say anything about the car or how much power it puts down..

and for those who say you dont need the extra power.. i'd notice the difference.. i've hit my speed governer at 138 more than once :P and dman those C5's and Z06's that pull on me every time
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Old 06-11-2003, 08:36 PM   #5
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This is kinda on topic....

What are the performace numbers on these M Coupes?

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Old 06-12-2003, 02:21 AM   #6
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[quote]Originally posted by Torch
[b]This is kinda on topic....

What are the performace numbers on these M Coupes?

The 2002 M coupe is faster than the 2003 M3 (same engine).
0-60 in 4.5 secs. It is my favorite car.


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Old 06-12-2003, 02:26 AM   #7
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please leave the 'l33t' out of the thread titles.

thanks.
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Old 06-12-2003, 02:45 AM   #8
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315 vs 240 = BIG difference (75hp), just like WRX vs STi (73hp). 227 definately ain't plenty. But thanks anyway.

Any word of a 2001-2002 for sale, let me know.
If you know of a good BMW forum like this forum, let me know.
For a good BMW forum go to http://www.roadfly.org/

My brother had a 2000 M coupe and it was pretty quick, very torquey and easy to spin around if you are not careful. My buddy has a steel grey 2002 model with the 315 HP engine, you really can't tell a big difference until you get up in the higher gears, from a stop they are pretty dang close in acceleration. I think that the 0-60 times are in the low five second range.

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Old 06-12-2003, 03:18 AM   #9
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there is a slight variance in performance bweteen coupe and roadster but not markedly so.
they are both approx 3100lbs

<01 : e36 engine
Power 240 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Torque 236 lb-ft @ 3800 rpm
0-60 MPH 5.0 sec
1/4 Mile 13.7 sec @ 102.0 mph

01-02 : e46engine
Power 315 bhp @ 7,400 rpm
Torque 251 ft-lb. @ 4,900 rpm
0-60 MPH 5.2 seconds
0-100 MPH 14.6 seconds
1/4 Mile 14.0 seconds
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Old 06-12-2003, 10:11 AM   #10
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Quote:
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there is a slight variance in performance bweteen coupe and roadster but not markedly so.
they are both approx 3100lbs

<01 : e36 engine
Power 240 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Torque 236 lb-ft @ 3800 rpm
0-60 MPH 5.0 sec
1/4 Mile 13.7 sec @ 102.0 mph

01-02 : e46engine
Power 315 bhp @ 7,400 rpm
Torque 251 ft-lb. @ 4,900 rpm
0-60 MPH 5.2 seconds
0-100 MPH 14.6 seconds
1/4 Mile 14.0 seconds
how could the weight remain similar, yet the 315hp car does a slower 0-60 and slower 1/4 mile time?!
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Old 06-12-2003, 10:55 AM   #11
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I think she meant the coupe and convertible are similar weights.

I believe the higher horsepower models have worse gearing and more weight.

I've been told that just a shark chip and a cold air intake on the 240hp model will outrun the 315hp model in the 1/4 mile


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how could the weight remain similar, yet the 315hp car does a slower 0-60 and slower 1/4 mile time?!
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Old 06-12-2003, 08:30 PM   #12
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00 Roadster: 3070 lbs <-- sans driver
01 Roadster: 3142 lbs

00 Coupe: 2,989 lbs
01 Coupe: 3,131 lbs

unfort there will be some variance in numbers as i gathered them from different websites.
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Old 06-12-2003, 10:16 PM   #13
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The performance numbers for the 315hp car just dont add up.

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Old 06-13-2003, 12:04 AM   #14
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Quote:
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The performance numbers for the 315hp car just dont add up.

Torch
how do you know?
you don't know the gearing nor the powerband of each car.

look at the rpms for each cars peak power for instance.

the area under the HP curve may not be that different, which is what ultimately matters.

Now, I do believe that experience has shown that the 315hp cars are indeed quicker in the 1/4 mile, stock vs stock. I think that the particular numbers quoted above may have just been a fluke due to testing conditions/driving etc.
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Old 06-13-2003, 01:40 AM   #15
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Someone correct me if I am wrong, but I believe that only 690
M coupes were made with the 315hp S54 engine (m3 engine).

If you can find and buy one, you are one lucky person!
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Old 06-13-2003, 01:42 AM   #16
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how do you know?
It is called common sense. To me when I looked at the numbers posted they just did not look right. Why in the world would BMW add more power to the car and performance numbers drop. I will do some searching tomorrow and see what I can find.

BTW, that was just my opinion from the information provided.


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Old 06-13-2003, 01:54 AM   #17
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It is called common sense. To me when I looked at the numbers posted they just did not look right. Why in the world would BMW add more power to the car and performance numbers drop. I will do some searching tomorrow and see what I can find.

BTW, that was just my opinion from the information provided.


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common sense would say that the new M3 would handle at least as well as the old one too

it doesnt =)
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Old 06-13-2003, 09:25 AM   #18
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i found this on another website:

PERFORMANCE:

0-60: 4.8sec
0-100: 12.0sec
0-150: N/A
1/4 mile: 13.3sec
Top Speed: 158 mph

this sounds about right.. i remember thinking when i first started to research 1/4 mi times, that for 100hp .5s was not a lot.
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Old 06-13-2003, 10:30 PM   #19
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[quote]Originally posted by BlueBeast
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Originally posted by Torch
This is kinda on topic....

What are the performace numbers on these M Coupes?

The 2002 M coupe is faster than the 2003 M3 (same engine).
0-60 in 4.5 secs. It is my favorite car.


I would take that sti over both of those cars.............or spend the money I saved and upgrade it. Doesnt an STI out perform the M3 ? Not the Coupe.
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Old 06-14-2003, 12:59 AM   #20
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I would take that sti over both of those cars.............or spend the money I saved and upgrade it. Doesnt an STI out perform the M3 ? Not the Coupe.
depends on the contest

probably in most contests it would.
on a road course the M3 might win due to horsepower.
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