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Old 06-13-2003, 04:19 PM   #1
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Default Considering moving to WA

I'm considering moving to the Seattle area. Just wondering how does everyone like living out there? How is the job market over there?
I have a brother in law out there that loves it, and I really liked it when I visited last year. Except for all the clouds it looked like a really great place to live.
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Old 06-13-2003, 04:36 PM   #2
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Come out here for a visit and see if you like the place.
If you like nature, water, mountains etc, this is an excellent place to live.
Weather wise, the climate is very mild. Never gets too hot or too cold and seldom snows. But the cloudy weather can be a bit too much, especially in the winter time.
It doesnt actually rain a whole lot but the cloudy days are numerous contributing to the "high suicide rate"

Where are you moving from?

The job market here is really bad . . . one of the highest state unemployment in the country.

As with many colder climate places, the people here are mostly friendly but not warm.
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Old 06-13-2003, 05:00 PM   #3
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Thanks for the reply RA29, as I mentioned in the previous post I went out there last winter, and I really liked it. I am into nature, skiing, mtn. biking, hiking, so that's a big draw for me. Last year I went out and skied Baker and then went up to Whistler. It's unbelievable being within driving distance of Whistler. I'm coming from NJ, so it's great for the job market, but I can do without the high taxes, home prices, high auto insurance, over crowding, and hot and humid summers. I think I might have to wait a while until the job market gets a little better though.
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Old 06-13-2003, 05:11 PM   #4
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Very untrue about the Employement! The reasaon why the unemployement rate is so low, is because the Seattle area is the only big city in Washington, every where else is really small and business deprived. The closer you get towards Eastern Washington the worse the economy is! Seattle is a huge area, and there are a lot of job opportunities avaliable. If you go to Spokane though, there are no job opportunities because there are too many people and not enough businesses! That is why I moved from Spokane to Seattle, just 9 months ago and I am doin fine!

The only real time the weather is real bad is durring the winter. It doesn't real rain much. But when it is sunny, it is one of the most beautiful places, cause everyting is so green!
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Old 06-13-2003, 05:16 PM   #5
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Very untrue about the Employement! The reasaon why the unemployement rate is so low, is because the Seattle area is the only big city in Washington, every where else is really small and business deprived. The closer you get towards Eastern Washington the worse the economy is! Seattle is a huge area, and there are a lot of job opportunities avaliable. If you go to Spokane though, there are no job opportunities because there are too many people and not enough businesses! That is why I moved from Spokane to Seattle, just 9 months ago and I am doin fine!

The only real time the weather is real bad is durring the winter. It doesn't real rain much. But when it is sunny, it is one of the most beautiful places, cause everyting is so green!
I agree with you. Plus we don't have any poisonous insects or animals here, just green trees.

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Old 06-13-2003, 06:09 PM   #6
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this place is too hot, too cold, too rainy, too dry, no jobs, too much crime, way too high of a cost of living, and it rains bong smoking frogs on a daily basis, the local government makes us install cameras in our homes in order to watch us, and there is a 5000dollar tax for owning a subaru.

please spread the word.

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Old 06-13-2003, 06:26 PM   #7
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Hey Erik, why don't you move to NJ? We'll welcome you over here.
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Old 06-13-2003, 07:01 PM   #8
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I dont know where those guys are living but the Seattle area's unemployment is pretty high . . .
Sure, it's worse in Eastern WA but they arent as susceptible to the Tech-downturn or Boeing.

The summer here is very mild and very nice. Summers here are to die for! Really makes me appreciate summer time after living an entire gloomy winter.

Yes, lots of great winter sports areas around here. Baker, Hood, Rainier, Whistler are all really close by.

The nice thing about WA state is that there are no State income taxes, although other taxes make up for it. Owning a car in Seattle is really expensive.
It's also pretty crowded in the Seattle area with high home prices.

But if you are coming from NJ, almost any other place is better

Come on out for a summer visit to Seattle and drive the mountain roads. You'll feel like you are on a WRC tarmac rally stage
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It's funny with the weather, NJ is having a taste of the NW with all the rain we've had in the last 3 weeks. After this, I can deal with anything.
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Old 06-13-2003, 08:14 PM   #10
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Very untrue about the Employement! The reasaon why the unemployement rate is so low, is because the Seattle area is the only big city in Washington, every where else is really small and business deprived. The closer you get towards Eastern Washington the worse the economy is! Seattle is a huge area, and there are a lot of job opportunities avaliable. If you go to Spokane though, there are no job opportunities because there are too many people and not enough businesses! That is why I moved from Spokane to Seattle, just 9 months ago and I am doin fine!

The only real time the weather is real bad is durring the winter. It doesn't real rain much. But when it is sunny, it is one of the most beautiful places, cause everyting is so green!
Look it up buddy, Washington has had the second highest unemployment rate in the country in the past few months...
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Old 06-13-2003, 08:25 PM   #11
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All because of the ****ty little towns that have no businesses to provide people with jobs. There are millions of places to work out here in Seattle. It is a huge city, and not as much affected as the small cities.

Everywhere you go right now, there is going to be less jobs open than 2 years ago. Let's face it, our economy is real ****ty right now.

That doesn't mean there are not any job openings over here.

It all depends on what you want to do also. I guess if you wanted to work at Boeing you wouldn't get a job, but Microsoft is always hiring. I know 2 people that just got hired there.

So don't tell me it is impossible to find a job here.

Do you guys all have jobs? Exactly! I gurantee if you went to like Spokane, or Wenatchee or somethin you wouldn't get a job for a long time.
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Old 06-13-2003, 08:56 PM   #12
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All because of the ****ty little towns that have no businesses to provide people with jobs. There are millions of places to work out here in Seattle. It is a huge city, and not as much affected as the small cities.

Everywhere you go right now, there is going to be less jobs open than 2 years ago. Let's face it, our economy is real ****ty right now.

That doesn't mean there are not any job openings over here.

It all depends on what you want to do also. I guess if you wanted to work at Boeing you wouldn't get a job, but Microsoft is always hiring. I know 2 people that just got hired there.

So don't tell me it is impossible to find a job here.

Do you guys all have jobs? Exactly! I gurantee if you went to like Spokane, or Wenatchee or somethin you wouldn't get a job for a long time.
umm...actually it has to do with the decline in the technology sector

And if you compare how many people live in spokane to Seattle...you will then recognize that the majority of people seeking employment (ie. definition of being unemployed) lie within the major metropolitan districts.
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Old 06-14-2003, 12:05 AM   #13
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Spokane county Unemplyment 6.5%
King County - 6.4%
Peirce - 7.4%

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Old 06-14-2003, 07:50 PM   #14
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Old 06-14-2003, 10:09 PM   #15
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turn the lights out when you leave...
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Old 06-15-2003, 12:11 AM   #16
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Uhh, I don't get it.
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Old 06-15-2003, 12:51 AM   #17
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turn the lights out when you leave...
back when boeing layed off a whole bunch of people everyone started leaving as the economy went to shyt. someone posted that phrase on a billboard. boeing IS a huge part of our economy.
a little northwest history
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Old 06-15-2003, 04:40 AM   #18
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[ but I can do without the high taxes, home prices, high auto insurance, over crowding, and hot and humid summers. /B]
The home prices here are high, if not higher than NJ. You're looking at a minimum of 300k to get into even a halfway devent house.
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Old 06-15-2003, 05:08 PM   #19
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I was checking on the WA homes and they are cheaper if you move a little farther out from the city. Nj homes in my area are 250k - 300k for homes that are 50+ years old. But it looks like us east coasters are unwanted there anyway by some of these responses.
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Old 06-16-2003, 03:15 PM   #21
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Olympia is a great town. An hour from the big city, an hour from the ocean, an hour from the mountains... you get the idea.
It's the state capital, so there are plenty of state jobs. And the Real Estate market is very reasonable.
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Old 06-17-2003, 01:09 AM   #22
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Being someone who moved here from the east I can tell you what you'll experience. At first Seattle seems great cause you're cooling off from the hot Easter summers, there seems to be a lot to do and the scenery is beautiful. But just like anywhere, the mystique where's off, it wore off real quick for me, but I didn't move here by choice either.

The summers are OK, 70's sounds great, but then there's the constant cold-ass wind blowing all the time that makes 70's feel like 50-60's. But wait, most of the summer weather is more in the 60's for a majority of the time, so the wind is even colder. Besides, the REAL summer here only lasts about 3 weeks and then its all fall. Lots of rain most of the time, but it's not a good rain that smells nice and has a relaxing sound, it's drizzle... never ending drizzle. It's never "wet" here, it's just moist. Spring, Fall and Winter suck. In winter it doesn't get as cold as the east, which is cool in some ways, but I really miss snow, but I guess you can go to the mountains for that. Spring and Fall basically dominate in Seattle, it's cold, the "uni-cloud" covers the sky for months on end, and it's generally not very happy looking outside. The first 8-9 years I almost never wore shorts, literally, in fact the first 3 years I wore a jacket pretty much all year.

Unemployment is, yes, terrible here, second worse in the nation next to Oregon. And yes it is really bad in the city. I was one of the many laid off by Boeing and I was unemployed for a year, and I'm not alone, I know a ton of people that are like this. Sure it's bad around the whole country, but there are not a ton of jobs to be had here. Not to mention most of the big companies are still laying people off, including Microsoft. Granted I finally got a job and yes it was at Microsoft, but there were people on the other side of the building, in other groups, that were getting laid off for budget cuts. I really recommend not moving here unless you really gotta have your skiing and biking And houses are expensive; your average 2-bedroom apartment is around 900-1200. Sure you can get cheaper, but you'll make up for it in the commute. Our commute is garbage here too, but I'm not sure that's any different than anywhere else, probably not. We have a crappy government that keeps putting tons of money into things that never happen. We were supposed to have some light train mass transit years ago that never happened. We spent tons of money on a second stadium for a football team that barely ever makes it out of the bottom 5.

There really isn't much to do here if you're not an outdoorsy person, which I'm not. But I guess that's not a problem for you. My other big complaint about Seattle is if you want to travel somewhere interesting and not have to take a plane, all that's interesting nearby (for me) is Vancouver and Portland (YAY!). Idaho is about as interesting as staring at a potato (sorry Idaho people) and the rest are just as boring. Vancouver is actually really cool and Portland is ok, but I'd rather just stay in Seattle. And if you like the beach, forget it, unless you have a wetsuit.

I would move, but I don't have the money I know a lot of people who are in the same rut, you can't move to a new place very well if you're broke from being unemployed for 9 months.

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Old 06-17-2003, 02:31 AM   #23
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you should try idaho, its skin head capital of the world . yea idaho is way cool. i want to try out montana, i stayed there for the summer and it was so great.
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