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Old 06-18-2003, 02:42 AM   #1
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Question Anyone have Ziebart, or Klasse info?

I am looking for the best way to protect a new car. Someone in a much earlier post I found in search had mentioned that Zeibarts Diamond Coat Paint Protector was a good investment that looked great. I've been all over the web, and have not been able to find any reviews, or locations where it's applied, though I found many descriptions of what it is.
I also have read good things about Klasse products, but would like a review from someone other than a retailer, if possible.
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Old 06-18-2003, 08:31 AM   #2
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Ziebart

I had my windows tinted by them. I would they say they are very professional and on time. I was told my car would be ready by 5, came at 4:45 and my car was done.
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Old 06-18-2003, 09:35 AM   #3
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DaBut,

Surf on over to Autopia and do a search on Klasse; you'll get more info that you know what to do with. Autopia is a detailing forum . . . mostly enthusiasts with a few pros on the board. Klasse is one of the forum favorites, and gets high praise for shine and durability, but it can be a little finicky to apply/remove.

There are other polymer sealants (like Klasse) that you might want to look into as well . . . Zaino, Blackfire, Poorboy's EX, even Meguiar's #20.

Good luck,
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Old 06-18-2003, 09:35 AM   #4
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The Zeibart protection is the same type of program the dealerships sell, essentially all profit for them. Klasse is a great product that can last 9 months. Check out some of the reviews over at http://www.autopia.org/forums/forumd....php?forumid=3
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Old 06-18-2003, 04:38 PM   #5
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For what it's worth, my take on the matter is :
1. Do no harm: use only high quality cloths to wash. Cheap stuff will scratch. No need to use a cutting agent for a few years, but occasional (once or twice annually) clay bar is good. Be careful not to use dirty water to clean the car (two bucket method).

2. Prevent: keep the car clean, as 'dirt' will increase oxidation and act as an abrasive. Trees and birds will foul you if given a chance, avoid parking beneath each. Door dings are sometimes the price of parking conveniently - trust no one to not ding you.

3. Protectants: those adhesive clear-plastic coverings (or a big bra) for the front end and lights are good at preventing the inevitable crater formation from daily driving, but they're not everyone's aesthetic. They can craze the glass of the lights. Use of UV block for vinyl, plastic and rubber seems a sensible idea (303 spray is good).

I only recently started to use Klasse, it acts as a layer, much like a clear coat. It would confer an added clear layer of protection to a new clear coat nicely. It would not significantly protect against debris impacts, although would against oxidative damage. It also makes waxing less of a scrub. It looks really shiny and smoother than a buttered baby's butt.

The first dent/ding is always the most painful. After a while, they just give the car more character .
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Old 06-19-2003, 12:41 AM   #6
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Thanks alot fellas, that's what I was looking for. There is no Zeibart within 150 miles of me, and it doesn't sound that special, so I'll pass. However, I will go about a month with just normal washing, then probably go with a complete Klasse system, maybe double sealant, then add a 3M film up front.
I just need to decide when to clay bar. I've heard that it could be good to do a claybar first thing to get out any grit accumulated since factory, but some disagree.
Any further imput is greatly appreciated. I'm not a detailer, but do like to keep it sharp.
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