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Old 06-22-2003, 09:43 AM   #1
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Default STi 2.5 Vrs Forester Turbo 2.5 Questions

I was looking at the Subaru Site and looking to see what carried over from the STi 2.5 Engine to the new Forester Turbo. Not much information. Can anyone confirm that this is the same engine? I may pick a Forester up for my wife

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Old 06-22-2003, 10:48 AM   #2
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I think at least the heavy duty bottom end is the same.

The turbo, IC and ECM are different.
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Old 06-22-2003, 01:00 PM   #3
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when are these coming out anyway. i actaully saw a sweet looking black one on the road today. but i check subaru's homepage and their not listed on there, nor is there any information about them on there.
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Old 06-22-2003, 04:37 PM   #4
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My dealer has them. Did not get a chance to test drive one yet.
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Old 06-23-2003, 02:42 AM   #5
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Test drove one today, what a blast, very nice pull! I love the premium package too, the sun roof is killer!
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Old 06-23-2003, 03:49 AM   #6
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Aparently the part numbers are different for the items like the valves, cams, pistons, piston rods, crankshaft, etc. so it sounds like basically the block/heads are the same but most of the internals are of "normal" quality. Thats not that bad of a thing though, just means you have some upgrades you can do
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Old 06-23-2003, 01:52 PM   #7
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Hmmmm, the dealer I went to had a disc he got at the ride and drive and it said all the engine parts were the same except turbo, injectors, intercooler
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Old 06-23-2003, 04:21 PM   #8
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The XT is a very nice ride. No offense to anyone, but I'd drive an XT over an STi. It's faster than a WRX, with plenty of cargo capacity. With a lean, I can put my road bike in the back of one with the front wheel off.

Now, I can put my road bike in my WRX wagon with both wheels on, but it gobbles up much of the cargo area, forcing me to rest stuff on the wheels, in crannies, etc.

I like the XTs a lot. All it needs are 17s, and a V7 STi hood scoop, which fits.

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Old 06-23-2003, 04:59 PM   #9
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It's faster than a WRX,
I keep seeing this, but I drove a manual this weekend and it sure didn't feel faster.

My car is a Stage 2 WRX though, so maybe that's why.
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Old 06-23-2003, 10:59 PM   #10
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I keep seeing this, but I drove a manual this weekend and it sure didn't feel faster.

My car is a Stage 2 WRX though, so maybe that's why.
It's faster than an unmodded WRX. Put that same Stage 2 kit on the XT, and it would be faster than your Stage 2 WRX, however.

I keep seeing images in my mind's eye of some maniac soccer mom with a stealth power mod, driving an auto XT with a beefed up torque converter and a hi-po kit on her XT.

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Old 06-24-2003, 05:56 PM   #11
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How is the new turbo'd forester faster than a stock WRX? Doesn't that 2.5 litre make 215hp and weight more?
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Old 06-24-2003, 06:44 PM   #12
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How is the new turbo'd forester faster than a stock WRX? Doesn't that 2.5 litre make 215hp and weight more?
Yes Less Hp, but I believe more Tq which can make it feel faster.

Anywho, I looked at one up close for a bit yesterday. Tiny intercooler, turbo looked smaller, intake looked different. I was told that the car is too powerful for the suspension, which translate into it's more like an explorer. They also said it's really easy to smoke the inside front tire coming out of a corner due to the massive amounts of body roll.

That's all I got.

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Old 06-25-2003, 02:48 AM   #13
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It doesnt have THAT much body roll Its fine, but the tires suck.
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Old 06-25-2003, 04:35 AM   #14
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but the tires suck.
yes, i full heartedly agree. when the hell is subaru going to stop putting crappy tires (minus the sti, of course) on cars with that much torque & power...re92's=bleh performance, yoko geolanders=bleh performance
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Old 06-25-2003, 09:17 AM   #15
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The tires are just too tall for awesome handling. With new tires, I think you'd feel a world of difference.
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Old 06-25-2003, 09:33 AM   #16
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Hmmmm, the dealer I went to had a disc he got at the ride and drive and it said all the engine parts were the same except turbo, injectors, intercooler
[Puts on tin-foil hat] I wonder if they're the same actual parts, but the STi part numbers are different so they can charge a premium for them? [/takes off tin foil hat]
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Old 06-25-2003, 04:15 PM   #17
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Horsepower helps at the high end, torque helps at the low end. Given the choice of 10 more lb-ft of torque vs. 10 horsepower, always take the torque, especially in our stop/go North America.

Subaru's official time, don't forget, is .1 faster for the Forester XT than the WRX.

As far as the Geolander tires, don't forget that the Forester XT is still a mini-ute, with the attendant tires. Swap on some 17s, with performance rubber, and I think you'd find that the handling is right on par with the WRX. The tires are softer than the suspension, in other words, because of its intended usage, which isn't road rocket, despite the fact that 99% of SUVs sold will only see pavement use.

And the XT isn't that much heavier than the Impreza. It is, after all, based on the Impreza. For a time there, the Forester was actually a fine modders platform, because it was the lightest member of the Impreza family. Imprezas aren't exactly light. The new Legacy sedan, for instance, is lighter than the STi.

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